Ferguson unrest

[Derek 2.0]

Not from the officer.

Exactly, and that coupled with Brown's blood found within the cruiser lend credibility to the officer's telling of the nights events.....

[Sleipnir]

A guy (acting like a thug) got shot for physically assaulting and ignoring a police officer. Thus sparked a nationwide protest against that police officer.

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Yeah that makes perfect sense to me

[sharkman]

Not only smaller, but infinitesimally smaller, and mostly accomplished by aboriginal groups enslaving other aboriginal groups. Luckily we stayed with the Crown and abolished it long before the US. Most slaves in Canada were blacks who headed up along routes such as Hwy 61 to get the hell out of the US and into Canada. If you ever get the chance I suggest a trip along the "Blues Hwy" :good music and a bit of education as well.

Ah yes, that same tired old yarn about how Canada is morally superior to the US, this time because we got rid of slavery sooner. It's funny the pretzels lefties twist themselves into, on one hand praising how great Canada is, and on the other hand how we're going down the toilet because Harper's been in power several years. It ain't easy bein' left.

[jacee]

Not from the officer.

What was that distance?

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[Derek 2.0]

A guy (acting like a thug) got shot for physically assaulting and ignoring a police officer. Thus sparked a nationwide protest against that police officer.

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Yeah that makes perfect sense to me

Not only a protest, but looting, arson and vandalism......much like the similar response from "white people" after OJ Simpson was acquitted....

[bush_cheney2004]

Exactly, and that coupled with Brown's blood found within the cruiser lend credibility to the officer's telling of the nights events.....

Yes...that is the problem with the "hands up" protest narrative....it is demonstrably false. The protesters and their supporters picked the wrong hill to die on, just like Michael Brown.

[Derek 2.0]

What was that distance?

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Effective pistol range?

[Derek 2.0]

Yes...that is the problem with the "hands up" protest narrative....it is demonstrably false. The protesters and their supporters picked the wrong hill to die on, just like Michael Brown.

I guess urban Chicago isn't "hilly" enough.......

[On Guard for Thee]

The Black slaves traveled along highways to Central Canada? I always thought they took subways to Eastern Canada.......learn something new everyday...

Look it up sometime.

[sharkman]

Effective pistol range?

That's what I was thinking, and what kind of marksmen can reliably hit center mass from a hundred thirty-five feet with a pistol when under pressure? It's so easy to knock down these lame theories by just using your grey matter once in a while. Like the theory that Brown gets shot in the back, but then then still turn around with his hands in the air instead of falling to the ground.

Edited December 1, 2014 by sharkman

[On Guard for Thee]

Ah yes, that same tired old yarn about how Canada is morally superior to the US, this time because we got rid of slavery sooner. It's funny the pretzels lefties twist themselves into, on one hand praising how great Canada is, and on the other hand how we're going down the toilet because Harper's been in power several years. It ain't easy bein' left.

Funny how those tired old yarns get to be tired old yarns,,,because they're true. That's why it's easy being "left"

[bush_cheney2004]

Too late now....the outraged protesters and equally irked liberals invested so much into the false testimony and reports, they can't back off now. It doesn't actually matter exactly what Brown did or didn't do. The cause is "social justice"....facts be damned.

[Derek 2.0]

That's what I was thinking, and what kind of marksmen can reliably hit center mass from a hundred thirty-five feet with a pistol when under pressure? It's so easy to knock down these lame theories by just using your grey matter once in a while. Like the theory that Brown gets shot in the back, but then then still turn around with his hands in the air instead of falling to the ground.

135 feet is about ~45-50 yards.......with handguns, and dependent on the shooter, gun, sights, ammo, caliber etc, you're looking at about 25-~30ish yards as maximum effective range for a handgun.

[jbg]

Both sides had the opportunity to present their cases. An impartial group of people considered the evidence and decided that there were no grounds to indict. Justice was served. The system works.

As usual, the parasites and human hyenas gravitated to the location, took advantage of the emotions of the people in the area and used them as cover to do their dirty.

Burning the businesses of innocent people, burning the cars of innocent people looting and stealing from innocent people is not a protest, it is the work of criminals. What I saw of some of the action I noticed that most of the rioters had their faces covered. I guess they were "protesting" but did not want to be identified.

Justice was served ... until the next time.

"Fighting" innocent people is always easier than honest, open combat. Go ask the 911 bombers or ISIS.

[jbg]

Yeah....and OJ didn't kill Nicole. Justice was served. An impartial jury heard the facts.

I may be the only white Jewish person who believes that OJ was innocent.

[jbg]

I'm thinking it had more to do with Brown's behavior. The good news is, that if not known before, everyone now knows that stealing, assulting an officer, and then trying to shoot him with his own gun could result in very negative consequences. Regardless of historical events 200 years ago. That goes for any sex, race, ethnicity, or religion/non-religion.

Here we disagree. I think the citizenry must be placed on an equal footing to combat the police. And while they're at it tie up traffic.

Anarchy rocks!!!

Doesn't give a damn about Michael Brown and better not have his shopping interrupted by dumb lefties.

Unless Michael Brown gets justice, i.e. is resurrected, there can be no normal business. Edited December 1, 2014 by jbg

[jacee]

Not only smaller, but infinitesimally smaller, and mostly accomplished by aboriginal groups enslaving other aboriginal groups. Luckily we stayed with the Crown and abolished it long before the US.

It's a bit more complicated than that, as it turns out:

http://metronews.ca/voices/mom-and-pop-shops/935648/canadian-secret-slave-past/

Slavery existed in Canada for 200 years and was officially abolished 30 years before the Emancipation Proclamation order was issued by U.S. President Abraham Lincoln.

Historians believe there was an estimated 4,000 slaves who were forcibly brought to Canada, either directly as property, or shipped through the trans-Atlantic slave trade from other British colonies.

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slavery_in_Canada

Black slaves lived in the British regions of Canada in the 17th and 18th centuries 104 were listed in a 1767 census of Nova Scotia, but their numbers were small until the United Empire Loyalist influx after 1783. As white Loyalists fled the new American Republic, they took with them about 2000 black slaves

http://www.historymuseum.ca/virtual-museum-of-new-france/population/slavery/

In Canada, the majority of slaves were not of African, but rather of Aboriginal origin. Native populations customarily subjugated war captives before the arrival of the French, but this practice acquired new meanings and unprecedented proportions in the context of western expansion. Beginning in the 1670s, the French began to receive captives from their Aboriginal partners as tokens of friendship during commercial and diplomatic exchanges. The Illinois were notorious for the raids which they led against nations to the southeast and from which they brought back captives. By the early eighteenth century, the practice of buying and selling these captives like merchandise was established.

Most slaves in Canada were blacks who headed up along routes such as Hwy 61 to get the hell out of the US and into Canada.

They were not "slaves" in Canada, but free. You refer to the 30 years after slavery was abolished here, before it was completely in the states.

Interesting that several northern US states banned slavery before Britain/BNA, and slaves ran away from Canada to the US.

http://www.canadachannel.ca/slavery/index.php/Slavery_in_Canada_-_Timeline_of_the_1700s

[On Guard for Thee]

It's a bit more complicated than that, as it turns out:

http://metronews.ca/voices/mom-and-pop-shops/935648/canadian-secret-slave-past/

Slavery existed in Canada for 200 years and was officially abolished 30 years before the Emancipation Proclamation order was issued by U.S. President Abraham Lincoln.

Historians believe there was an estimated 4,000 slaves who were forcibly brought to Canada, either directly as property, or shipped through the trans-Atlantic slave trade from other British colonies.

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slavery_in_Canada

Black slaves lived in the British regions of Canada in the 17th and 18th centuries 104 were listed in a 1767 census of Nova Scotia, but their numbers were small until the United Empire Loyalist influx after 1783. As white Loyalists fled the new American Republic, they took with them about 2000 black slaves

http://www.historymuseum.ca/virtual-museum-of-new-france/population/slavery/

In Canada, the majority of slaves were not of African, but rather of Aboriginal origin. Native populations customarily subjugated war captives before the arrival of the French, but this practice acquired new meanings and unprecedented proportions in the context of western expansion. Beginning in the 1670s, the French began to receive captives from their Aboriginal partners as tokens of friendship during commercial and diplomatic exchanges. The Illinois were notorious for the raids which they led against nations to the southeast and from which they brought back captives. By the early eighteenth century, the practice of buying and selling these captives like merchandise was established.

They were not "slaves" in Canada, but free. You refer to the 30 years after slavery was abolished here, before it was completely in the states.

Interesting that several northern US states banned slavery before Britain/BNA, and slaves ran away from Canada to the US.

http://www.canadachannel.ca/slavery/index.php/Slavery_in_Canada_-_Timeline_of_the_1700s

Yes I misspoke there, they were freed slaves that headed north and therefore no longer slaves. You may know of Hwy 61, or the Blues Hwy which runs from NOLA to Chicago, which got it's name from all the musicians among those freed slaves that made the journey. It's a great drive if you like history and/or blues music if you ever get the chance.

[Hal 9000]

Well according to the latest, Wilson gets no golden handshake. What he gets is being described as "ineffective to serve". One wonders if that's not due to the fact that the Ferguson force also realize there are just too many unanswered questions about his actions to take a further chance with him.

Probably comes with a pension.

[Argus]

Ummm...no. Pretending that slavery did not exist in it's day, and pretending that post racist America exists today will only continue the type of thinking that will get more Michael Brown's shot dead.

Umm... no, punching cops and trying to steal their guns will only get more Michael Browns shot.

[Argus]

Blowin smoke smallc:

Finally, when the grand jury decision was delivered, and prosecutor Bob McCulloch gave his remarks before the documents were released, he confirmed that Brown had died 153 feet away from the SUV.

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So what? Would it make you feel better if he died somewhere else?

Edited December 1, 2014 by Argus

[Argus]

I may be the only white Jewish person who believes that OJ was innocent.

That doesn't say anything good about you...

[Argus]

What was that distance?

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Five or six feet.

[Hal 9000]

I'm thinking it had more to do with Brown's behavior. The good news is, that if not known before, everyone now knows that stealing, assulting an officer, and then trying to shoot him with his own gun could result in very negative consequences. Regardless of historical events 200 years ago. That goes for any sex, race, ethnicity, or religion/non-religion.

You'd think! But, there are many people on this board who are still arguing that a random white guy can in fact; pull off of a strong arm robbery, assault a police officer and then try to shoot him with his own gun....and get away unharmed!

[GostHacked]

Umm... no, punching cops and trying to steal their guns will only get more Michael Browns shot.

All you need to do is carry a camera and they will threaten you as well.