Why Islam is dangerous

[Benz]

There are evidences everywhere. For example why sky is blue colored while there are many other colors ? By chance. Is it also by chance that blue color gives happiness, gives a feeling of eternity, relaxes the eyes and calms nerves, helps to balance blood pressure etc. ?

Whenever there is something you can't explain, you assign that to your god. Once we find out the truth about it, you look for something else and then try again to assign that to your god.

The color of things, such as the sky, has a very scientific explanations. The property of things are reacting differently to the light spectrum. If you see the sky blue, it means that all color of the light are absorbed by the sky BUT the color blue. Blue is reflected and that is why you see the sky as blue.

Human body is also adapting to its environment. We need to sleep. After the sunset, when there are no more blue in the sky, the brain knows that it will be time to sleep. As soon as there are no lights, it starts producing melatonin that will help your brain to sleep well and repair. Once the morning shows up and you see the blue sky, it stops the production. It's no magic or divine will. If you look at a blue light in the middle of the night, it will also stop the production of melatonin. Then the color blue will damage you more than anything. The blue color can also cause damages depending on the context.

Our body are adapting throughout thousand of years to our environment. Not the other way around. The color blue existed way before the humans did.

[DogOnPorch]

There are females who lead both male and female Muslims in prayer and a female run mosque in Denmark. Things are changing in Islam as well. I think the world overall is becoming more progressive, despite the conservatives who fight it.

Was Muhammad a murderer?

[Argus]

Here's an answer of sorts.

TL:DR version: 15 Million for Christians, 17 Million for Islam.

A little light on their research.

Muslim historian Firishta [full name Muhammad Qasim Hindu Shah, born in 1560 and died in 1620], the author of the Tarikh-i Firishta and the Gulshan-i Ibrahim, was the first to give an idea to the medieval bloodbath that wasIndia during Muslim rule, when he declared that over 400 million Hindus got slaughtered during the Muslim invasion and occupation of India. Survivors got enslaved and castrated. India’s population is said to have been around 600 million at the time of Muslim invasion. By the mid 1500’s the Hindu population was 200 million.

https://themuslimissue.wordpress.com/2015/08/31/islamic-invasion-of-india-the-greatest-genocide-in-history/

[Argus]

How much worse is the Muslim tenet of segregating sexes than the Catholic tenet of not allowing women to be priests, bishops, leaders in the church, etc.?

About a million times worse.

[DogOnPorch]

It's kind of cute that Islam's defenders can't even admit Muhammad was a murderer. Pretty hard to defend a mass murderer, I guess. Let alone a child molester and wife beater.

[Altai]

Whenever there is something you can't explain, you assign that to your god. Once we find out the truth about it, you look for something else and then try again to assign that to your god.

The color of things, such as the sky, has a very scientific explanations. The property of things are reacting differently to the light spectrum. If you see the sky blue, it means that all color of the light are absorbed by the sky BUT the color blue. Blue is reflected and that is why you see the sky as blue.

Human body is also adapting to its environment. We need to sleep. After the sunset, when there are no more blue in the sky, the brain knows that it will be time to sleep. As soon as there are no lights, it starts producing melatonin that will help your brain to sleep well and repair. Once the morning shows up and you see the blue sky, it stops the production. It's no magic or divine will. If you look at a blue light in the middle of the night, it will also stop the production of melatonin. Then the color blue will damage you more than anything. The blue color can also cause damages depending on the context.

Our body are adapting throughout thousand of years to our environment. Not the other way around. The color blue existed way before the humans did.

Thanks for the scientific explanation but I also know it. I didnt ask "how", I ask "why". Is it just a coincidence that light blue and navy blue gives us such feelings ?

You said we have been adapted to sleep at nights because there is no light and etc .... Then why people who live at the poles didnt adapted to sleep for 6 months uninterruptedly and stay awake for 6 months uninterruptedly ?

[eyeball]

How many people did Muhammad murder?

How many people has God murdered?

[Guest]

How many people has God murdered?

All of us, eventually.

[eyeball]

It's kind of cute that Islam's defenders can't even admit Muhammad was a murderer. Pretty hard to defend a mass murderer, I guess. Let alone a child molester and wife beater.

Muhammad sounds like a real charmer alright.

What was your point again? Something about lefties in the year 2016?

[Goddess]

Thanks for the scientific explanation but I also know it. I didnt ask "how", I ask "why". Is it just a coincidence that light blue and navy blue gives us such feelings ?

You said we have been adapted to sleep at nights because there is no light and etc .... Then why people who live at the poles didnt adapted to sleep for 6 months uninterruptedly and stay awake for 6 months uninterruptedly ?

Many things, (in the past and before modern advances in science) that people didn't understand the "why" about were attributed to supernatural causes. As science discovers new things, those supernatural explanations have all been replaced with concrete scientific explanations. Do you think that perhaps the things we still don't understand about the universe and life, might one day also be explained scientifically?

I will give you an example of what I mean: My grandmother was very religious and sometimes experienced what she concluded were "demon attacks" at night. Her religion had taught her that she possibly had bought a used item that had a demon attached to it. So she would immediately get rid of anything she had recently bought.

When I became an adult, I also experienced these same "demon attacks". Fortunately, I had a friend who suffered from SLEEP PARALYSIS (You can look that up if you wish, it is quite scary) so the first time it happened to me, I understood right away that there was nothing supernatural happening to me.

As man evolves and gains more understanding, we will eventually drop all these childish explanations. But it seems to me that Islam is generations behind the rest of the world in this regard.

[Altai]

Many things, (in the past and before modern advances in science) that people didn't understand the "why" about were attributed to supernatural causes. As science discovers new things, those supernatural explanations have all been replaced with concrete scientific explanations. Do you think that perhaps the things we still don't understand about the universe and life, might one day also be explained scientifically?

I will give you an example of what I mean: My grandmother was very religious and sometimes experienced what she concluded were "demon attacks" at night. Her religion had taught her that she possibly had bought a used item that had a demon attached to it. So she would immediately get rid of anything she had recently bought.

When I became an adult, I also experienced these same "demon attacks". Fortunately, I had a friend who suffered from SLEEP PARALYSIS (You can look that up if you wish, it is quite scary) so the first time it happened to me, I understood right away that there was nothing supernatural happening to me.

As man evolves and gains more understanding, we will eventually drop all these childish explanations. But it seems to me that Islam is generations behind the rest of the world in this regard.

Its mathematically impossible for this much of coincidences to come together and it will be still impossible one day in the future.

[Benz]

Thanks for the scientific explanation but I also know it. I didnt ask "how", I ask "why". Is it just a coincidence that light blue and navy blue gives us such feelings ?

You said we have been adapted to sleep at nights because there is no light and etc .... Then why people who live at the poles didnt adapted to sleep for 6 months uninterruptedly and stay awake for 6 months uninterruptedly ?

Not coincidence, adaptation. It's ok to ask why. It's sad though when you are satisfied with the answer "ah it's because god decided so". I mean think about it, god would have take the time to create such a complexe and interesting caracteristics and you do not bother to figure out how it work? Then your why is limited on your interpretation of the will of a divine entity of which you do not even try to figure how it works. Maybe your god would be more proud of you if you take the time to really understand how it works. Don't you think? Well, that's what I would expect from my creation rather than just seeing you guys saying I am great, like if I need that.

The color blue has good and bad effects on human beings. I invite you to google "7 facts about blue light" and read the first or second link.

Regarding the humans at the poles. Look, technology is helping us to go where we cannot naturally survivre. Even on the moon. The humans know how to create light and therefore can live in such places. There are well documented side effects of living on the poles when it is always dark. Despression is the one that happens the most often. They also discovored that with light therapy you can reduce the damages.

The reason why my skin is white as oppose to another human having a black skin, has nothing to do with the will of god. It's because my ancestors were living in a place where the light of the sun was not as much available as it is near the middle of the earth. There fore the skin needs to absorb as much sun light as it could when it was happening. As opposed as the people living almost naked in a very sunny place. The body is adapting to its environment.

This is how evolution works and it does for all species. If there was a god, that god would have created that mechanism for life to evolved to what we have now. However, the people who created the religions few years ago did not know any of this. That is why they imagined the birth of humanity and life on the principle of creationism. Now we know that not only it does not make sense, it just impossible.

Don't get satisfied with a simplistic explanation of "because god says so, that's why!". The beauty lies in the compelxity. It's like the appreciation of the art. If your god took the time to create something so great, why don't you take the time to figure how it works and appreciate it. It's worth it.

I doubt very much that a divine entity called god or allah or else, would have created a world that evolves for several billions of year and out of sudden, he would create the humans to worthsip him and limit their thinking on how much awesome he is. When you are capable to create an entire universe, the worship of few humans on one planet is the least of your concerns. Such a god would expect more from us and definitly does not need our admiration. He would rather expect us to admire its creation, figure out how it works and use it for something good.

[Altai]

Not coincidence, adaptation. It's ok to ask why. It's sad though when you are satisfied with the answer "ah it's because god decided so". I mean think about it, god would have take the time to create such a complexe and interesting caracteristics and you do not bother to figure out how it work? Then your why is limited on your interpretation of the will of a divine entity of which you do not even try to figure how it works. Maybe your god would be more proud of you if you take the time to really understand how it works. Don't you think? Well, that's what I would expect from my creation rather than just seeing you guys saying I am great, like if I need that.

The color blue has good and bad effects on human beings. I invite you to google "7 facts about blue light" and read the first or second link.

Regarding the humans at the poles. Look, technology is helping us to go where we cannot naturally survivre. Even on the moon. The humans know how to create light and therefore can live in such places. There are well documented side effects of living on the poles when it is always dark. Despression is the one that happens the most often. They also discovored that with light therapy you can reduce the damages.

The reason why my skin is white as oppose to another human having a black skin, has nothing to do with the will of god. It's because my ancestors were living in a place where the light of the sun was not as much available as it is near the middle of the earth. There fore the skin needs to absorb as much sun light as it could when it was happening. As opposed as the people living almost naked in a very sunny place. The body is adapting to its environment.

This is how evolution works and it does for all species. If there was a god, that god would have created that mechanism for life to evolved to what we have now. However, the people who created the religions few years ago did not know any of this. That is why they imagined the birth of humanity and life on the principle of creationism. Now we know that not only it does not make sense, it just impossible.

Don't get satisfied with a simplistic explanation of "because god says so, that's why!". The beauty lies in the compelxity. It's like the appreciation of the art. If your god took the time to create something so great, why don't you take the time to figure how it works and appreciate it. It's worth it.

I doubt very much that a divine entity called god or allah or else, would have created a world that evolves for several billions of year and out of sudden, he would create the humans to worthsip him and limit their thinking on how much awesome he is. When you are capable to create an entire universe, the worship of few humans on one planet is the least of your concerns. Such a god would expect more from us and definitly does not need our admiration. He would rather expect us to admire its creation, figure out how it works and use it for something good.

I really dont understand that why do you write this much and dont read big part of your post. I am not interested with your thoughts about religious people.

I have asked a simple question and you have been failed to reply it. Please read my question in my pre-post again.

[Goddess]

Its mathematically impossible for this much of coincidences to come together and it will be still impossible one day in the future.

You may want to check out the "mathematical" possibilities, if you are allowed to.

It makes me sad to hear you say so emphatically that this is "impossible". So young for such a closed mind and no desire to find out the answers, content with getting your science and biology information from a religious book written over a thousand years ago.

You remind me of a 40 year old man who recently told me that the proof that we were created by God is the "fact" that men have one less rib than women. I'm not even kidding.

[dialamah]

Its mathematically impossible for this much of coincidences to come together and it will be still impossible one day in the future.

How mathematically posdible is it that there is an omniscient god as described in the Bible, the Torah and the Qu'ran?

[Goddess]

If you are allowed, I recommend the book "The Magic of Reality" by Richard Dawkins.

It's made for children, but is a good read for adults too. It answers and explains scientific things in simple layman's language.

[Benz]

I really dont understand that why do you write this much and dont read big part of your post. I am not interested with your thoughts about religious people.

I have asked a simple question and you have been failed to reply it. Please read my question in my pre-post again.

ok.

Is it coincidence that blue gives such feeling?

No, it's the way the human body uses it for its own need.

why the humans are not adapted for a 6 months sleep and 6 months of being awake.

Because the earth is rotating. The humans living in poles are using artificial lights to help them live like if they were to what they are used to live. It takes several thousands of year for species to adapt to a new environment. Some can't and they extinct. Humanids exist for over several hundred of thousand years. The people living in poles are there for just few thousands.

[Argus]

If you want to talk about whether God exists start another topic for it.

[Moonlight Graham]

I don't think islam is dangerous . Peoples are dangerous.

Religions are ideologies. They provide a philosophical base and moral code on how to live your life. Everyone needs and seeks a moral philosophy, and developing your own moral philosophy is hard work and takes deep thought and much internal struggle so religion provides people with a convenient and socially accepted moral code to base their actions. Humans also naturally ponder fundamental existential questions like how did the earth/universal come to be? where did we come from? and what happens when we die? So religion solves those problems too. Religion basically provides stress relief for the mind so it doesn't have to struggle thinking hard about all these problems. Critical thinking and philosophizing is hard work, it's easier to have ready-made answers from a magical book and get on with enjoying your life.

Islam is an ideology. Like most religions, it has a lot of good and a lot of bad. If you're a fundamentalist Christian or Muslim, you lose the ability to reject the bad and just follow the good (like most moderate religious people try to do) because you think you need to believe everything, good or bad alike.

So as an ideology, I think Islam can be dangerous, depending on what you choose to believe from it.

Edited September 17, 2016 by Moonlight Graham

[freekundli]

What's the penalty for murder under the Criminal Code of Canada?

Jail.

What's the penalty for Apostasy under Islamic Law?

Don't know.

[Argus]

Hard to believe anyone would think the religion of peace was dangerous, I know.

“God’s curse be upon the infidels! Evil is that for which they have bartered away their souls. To deny God’s own revelation, grudging that He should reveal His bounty to whom He chooses from among His servants! They have incurred God’s most inexorable wrath. An ignominious punishment awaits the unbelievers.” Quran 2:89-2:90

“When the sacred months are over slay the idolaters wherever you find them. Arrest them, besiege them, and lie in ambush everywhere for them.” Quran 9:5

“Believers, make war on the infidels who dwell around you. Deal firmly with them. Know that God is with the righteous.” Quran 9:123

“Believers, take neither the Jews nor the Christians for your friends. They are friends with one another…” Quran 5:51

“Muhammad is God’s apostle. Those who follow him are ruthless to the unbelievers but merciful to one another.” Quran 48:29

Quran (8:12) - "I will cast terror into the hearts of those who disbelieve. Therefore strike off their heads and strike off every fingertip of them"

Quran (3:151) - "Soon shall We cast terror into the hearts of the Unbelievers, for that they joined companions with Allah, for which He had sent no authority".

Quran (8:12) - "I will cast terror into the hearts of those who disbelieve. Therefore strike off their heads and strike off every fingertip of them"

Quran (9:30) - "And the Jews say: Ezra is the son of Allah; and the Christians say: The Messiah is the son of Allah; these are the words of their mouths; they imitate the saying of those who disbelieved before; may Allah destroy them; how they are turned away!"

Quran (9:123) - "O you who believe! fight those of the unbelievers who are near to you and let them find in you hardness."

Bukhari (52:177) - Allah's Apostle said, "The Hour will not be established until you fight with the Jews, and the stone behind which a Jew will be hiding will say. "O Muslim! There is a Jew hiding behind me, so kill him."

Muslim (1:33) - the Messenger of Allah said: I have been commanded to fight against people till they testify that there is no god but Allah, that Muhammad is the messenger of Allah

Edited September 20, 2016 by Argus

[Guest]

Islam is an ideology. Like most religions, it has a lot of good and a lot of bad. If you're a fundamentalist Christian or Muslim, you lose the ability to reject the bad and just follow the good (like most moderate religious people try to do) because you think you need to believe everything, good or bad alike.

So as an ideology, I think Islam can be dangerous, depending on what you choose to believe from it.

Well said.

[Guest]

Hard to believe anyone would think the religion of peace was dangerous, I know.

Deuteronomy 13:6-10

6 If your very own brother, or your son or daughter, or the wife you love, or your closest friend secretly entices you, saying, “Let us go and worship other gods” (gods that neither you nor your ancestors have known, 7 gods of the peoples around you, whether near or far, from one end of the land to the other), 8 do not yield to them or listen to them. Show them no pity. Do not spare them or shield them. 9 You must certainly put them to death. Your hand must be the first in putting them to death, and then the hands of all the people. 10 Stone them to death, because they tried to turn you away from the Lord your God

[DogOnPorch]

Deuteronomy 13:6-10

6 If your very own brother, or your son or daughter, or the wife you love, or your closest friend secretly entices you, saying, “Let us go and worship other gods” (gods that neither you nor your ancestors have known, 7 gods of the peoples around you, whether near or far, from one end of the land to the other), 8 do not yield to them or listen to them. Show them no pity. Do not spare them or shield them. 9 You must certainly put them to death. Your hand must be the first in putting them to death, and then the hands of all the people. 10 Stone them to death, because they tried to turn you away from the Lord your God

Provide an example of Christians stoning folks. Will it be Uganda?

[Goddess]

Deuteronomy 13:6-10

6 If your very own brother, or your son or daughter, or the wife you love, or your closest friend secretly entices you, saying, “Let us go and worship other gods” (gods that neither you nor your ancestors have known, 7 gods of the peoples around you, whether near or far, from one end of the land to the other), 8 do not yield to them or listen to them. Show them no pity. Do not spare them or shield them. 9 You must certainly put them to death. Your hand must be the first in putting them to death, and then the hands of all the people. 10 Stone them to death, because they tried to turn you away from the Lord your God

I don't understand why people always use the Old Testament to justify what the Koran says. Jesus took all of that away, there is a New Testament, no more stonings, no more warring with their neighbors, obey the Golden Rule, "those who live by the sword will die by the sword".....etc.

There is no New Testament equivalent in the Koran. This is the problem. Christians can easily show this difference/change in thinking. Muslims cannot.

Edited September 20, 2016 by Goddess