Army Guy Posted July 22, 2014 Report Posted July 22, 2014 Canada shouldn't be holding political prisoners anyway. The us had to make a new court invent new law and torture to "convict" him. Canafa shouldn't recognize those processes nor legitimize what occured to that Canadian. Should there have been enough evidence of him engaging in war against Canada he should have been tried in canada as a young offender. Not in Cuba by a mock us court as an adult under made up laws in a whole de facto process. His actions weren't criminal they were self defence us law did not extend to a canadian in central asia What new court, military courts have been around for quit sometime. And how is Omars actions self defense, was it because he was a Canadian citizen fighting in Afghanistan for no acceptable reason, was it because he was a member of a terrorist group, was it because he built IED's to be used again'st NATO soldiers and Afghan civilians. How do you get self defense out of any of that...He did the crime and now he is paying the price... Quote We, the willing, led by the unknowing, are doing the impossible for the ungrateful. We have now done so much for so long with so little, we are now capable of doing anything with nothing.
eyeball Posted July 22, 2014 Report Posted July 22, 2014 Military courts are for adult soldiers not underage kids and terrorists are tried in civil courts because they're criminals not soldiers. Quote A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding.
Army Guy Posted July 22, 2014 Report Posted July 22, 2014 History is full of examples , what makes omar any different. Quote We, the willing, led by the unknowing, are doing the impossible for the ungrateful. We have now done so much for so long with so little, we are now capable of doing anything with nothing.
Bob Macadoo Posted December 13, 2014 Report Posted December 13, 2014 http://www.huffingtonpost.ca/2014/12/11/omar-khadr-appeal-supreme-court_n_6308300.html?utm_hp_ref=canada-politics I would like to know what the running gov't tab for this circle jerk is. A unanimous Albertan panel said "youth"........maybe the gov't will involve a cell phone somehow to get a reversal. Maybe we should expect the election donation e-mail soon with the header; "Donate or we'll lose the election and the Liberals will let him out to bomb your house......" Quote
Big Guy Posted December 13, 2014 Author Report Posted December 13, 2014 Just this week, the USA released a report that states that the "Enhanced Interrogation Techniques" used on those in Guantanimo Bay was not only illegal torture but also ineffective in that the interrogators could get what answers they fed the prisoners. Khadr was interrogated in that hell hole and his trial was based on those findings. I have no idea why this current federal government is spending those $millions on trying to keep this guy in jail. I believe that Harper is losing public support in his apparent vendetta. Enough already. Quote Note - For those expecting a response from Big Guy: I generally do not read or respond to posts longer then 300 words nor to parsed comments.
jbg Posted December 13, 2014 Report Posted December 13, 2014 Just this week, the USA released a report that states that the "Enhanced Interrogation Techniques" used on those in Guantanimo Bay was not only illegal torture but also ineffective in that the interrogators could get what answers they fed the prisoners. Khadr was interrogated in that hell hole and his trial was based on those findings. I have no idea why this current federal government is spending those $millions on trying to keep this guy in jail. I believe that Harper is losing public support in his apparent vendetta. Enough already. Sounds like more excuses for Western surrender. They play by no rules at all. Just kill. Quote Free speech: "You can say what you want, but I don't have to lend you my megaphone." Always remember that when you are in the right you can afford to keep your temper, and when you are in the wrong you cannot afford to lose it. - J.J. Reynolds. Will the steps anyone is proposing to fight "climate change" reduce a single temperature, by a single degree, at a single location? The mantra of "world opinion" or the views of the "international community" betrays flabby and weak reasoning (link).
Big Guy Posted December 13, 2014 Author Report Posted December 13, 2014 If we play by their rules then what would make us different from "them" (whoever they are)? I do not see anything that the West has done as a policy as "surrender". The only time we have had to surrender was to do so militarily after we got involved in "their" civil wars - Somalia, Vietnam, Libya, Iraq, Afghanistan and soon ISIL. As to Khadr, can anybody explain to me what is the advantage to Canada to keep paying for this guys room and board? Quote Note - For those expecting a response from Big Guy: I generally do not read or respond to posts longer then 300 words nor to parsed comments.
eyeball Posted December 13, 2014 Report Posted December 13, 2014 The advantage is for the CPC. Quote A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding.
PIK Posted December 14, 2014 Report Posted December 14, 2014 (edited) He is a murdering thug brought up by a murdering thug family that all should be thrown out of the country. But we have enough bleeding hearts in this country that cant see that. Or they have raised kids that are now 15 and are as stupid as a 2x4. The 15 yr old kids I have known, know the difference between right and wrong. He knew what he was doing and he was happy doing it. Edited December 14, 2014 by PIK Quote Toronto, like a roach motel in the middle of a pretty living room.
Big Guy Posted December 14, 2014 Author Report Posted December 14, 2014 So why are we paying his room and board? Quote Note - For those expecting a response from Big Guy: I generally do not read or respond to posts longer then 300 words nor to parsed comments.
eyeball Posted December 14, 2014 Report Posted December 14, 2014 Optics, for the base mostly. The petty vindictiveness is pretty shameful really. I suppose it would be nice if the lion's share of the bill for his treatment including his settlement cheque was sent to the CPC but that said, we're all responsible for the government action/inaction that was committed in our name towards Khadr. I'd like to see his mother charged with indoctrinating or radicalizing or whatever they're calling it these days too but I guess doing that would sorta demolish the notion that Khadr was and has been capable of making rational adult decisions ever since he was around the ripe old age of 8. Quote A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding.
jbg Posted December 25, 2014 Report Posted December 25, 2014 So why are we paying his room and board? Ask Jean Chretien. Quote Free speech: "You can say what you want, but I don't have to lend you my megaphone." Always remember that when you are in the right you can afford to keep your temper, and when you are in the wrong you cannot afford to lose it. - J.J. Reynolds. Will the steps anyone is proposing to fight "climate change" reduce a single temperature, by a single degree, at a single location? The mantra of "world opinion" or the views of the "international community" betrays flabby and weak reasoning (link).
Bonam Posted December 25, 2014 Report Posted December 25, 2014 So why are we paying his room and board? So that he isn't out on the streets building bombs to blow up Canadians with? Of course, if we could send him back to Afghanistan that would be a better (cheaper) solution. He could find some nice friends over there to hang out with, maybe spend their time throwing acid in schoolgirl's faces or something. Quote
jbg Posted December 25, 2014 Report Posted December 25, 2014 So that he isn't out on the streets building bombs to blow up Canadians with? Of course, if we could send him back to Afghanistan that would be a better (cheaper) solution. He could find some nice friends over there to hang out with, maybe spend their time throwing acid in schoolgirl's faces or something. Or taking a leaf from Pakistan's Taliban and shooting up a school? Made Newtown look like a Sunday school picnic. Quote Free speech: "You can say what you want, but I don't have to lend you my megaphone." Always remember that when you are in the right you can afford to keep your temper, and when you are in the wrong you cannot afford to lose it. - J.J. Reynolds. Will the steps anyone is proposing to fight "climate change" reduce a single temperature, by a single degree, at a single location? The mantra of "world opinion" or the views of the "international community" betrays flabby and weak reasoning (link).
overthere Posted December 26, 2014 Report Posted December 26, 2014 If we play by their rules Um, their rules: slaughter infidels, rape the women, and behead survivors on camera. Our rules, for Khadr: capture alive, provide due process and rule of law to an endless degree, followed by several years of health care and three squares per day. If we'd played by their rules, on the battlefield our troops would have shot him as he lay wounded. No difference there, nope. Quote Science too hard for you? Try religion!
jacee Posted December 26, 2014 Report Posted December 26, 2014 Um, their rules: slaughter infidels, rape the women, and behead survivors on camera. Our rules, for Khadr: capture alive, provide due process and rule of law to an endless degree, followed by several years of health care and three squares per day. If we'd played by their rules, on the battlefield our troops would have shot him as he lay wounded. No difference there, nope. You got your wish:US troops did shoot him ... 3 times ... in the back ... as he sat blinded by shrapnel. . Quote
eyeball Posted December 27, 2014 Report Posted December 27, 2014 ....due process and rule of lawLol If we'd played by their rules, on the battlefield our troops would have shot him as he lay wounded. No difference there, nope. Actually our rules haven't all played out yet, there's still Khadr's settlement case. Quote A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding.
Peter F Posted December 27, 2014 Report Posted December 27, 2014 You got your wish: US troops did shoot him ... 3 times ... in the back ... as he sat blinded by shrapnel. . ...and blindly lobbing grenades over his shoulder it seems. Quote A bayonet is a tool with a worker at both ends
jacee Posted December 27, 2014 Report Posted December 27, 2014 ...and blindly lobbing grenades over his shoulder it seems. Unh ... no. . Quote
overthere Posted December 29, 2014 Report Posted December 29, 2014 (edited) He is a victim. I blame society. Edited December 29, 2014 by overthere Quote Science too hard for you? Try religion!
jacee Posted December 29, 2014 Report Posted December 29, 2014 He is a victim. I blame society. He's a victim of his parents. . Quote
eyeball Posted December 29, 2014 Report Posted December 29, 2014 He's a victim of Ottawa deliberately ignoring his parent's crimes. Charging his mother with indoctrination - we call it radicalizing now - would effectively throw the entire rhetorical edifice the west has built around the GWOT out the window. The Hague would have to build a new courthouse to handle the case load. Quote A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding.
PIK Posted December 29, 2014 Report Posted December 29, 2014 I know a lot of kids his age and they do know the difference. He was 15 at the time and that is plenty old enough to know what he was up to. He needs to be kept in jail and no money. But I am sure some liberal judge will hand him over a check for millions. Quote Toronto, like a roach motel in the middle of a pretty living room.
eyeball Posted December 29, 2014 Report Posted December 29, 2014 Actually he was only 8 when his parent's started radicalizing him. Quote A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding.
PIK Posted December 31, 2014 Report Posted December 31, 2014 Shoot them all then. Quote Toronto, like a roach motel in the middle of a pretty living room.
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