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Oh say speaking about ipartiallets talk about the origins of the BDS movement:

It started backin 1922, when the Mufti of Jerusale created an anti Zionist boycott throughout British Palestine.

Then on April 1, 1933, the impartial Adolph Hitler formalized a pre-existing boycott of Jewish-owned stores as German national policy

and the Mufti and his followers saluted and then adopted the Nazi tactic of anti-Jewish boycott.

Ah yyes. Hitler you know the same fellow who would become a hero to the Arab community in Palestine and wider Arab world.

Ah the good old days when everyone grew a Hiler Mustache including Nasser and Sadat and after Mohammad, “Hitler” and “Adolf” became the second most popular baby names.

Then in the 1940s, the Mufti of course joined forces with Hitler, creating three Nazi-flagged divisions of Waffen SS to fight in central Europe. During WWII, the anti-Jewish boycott was coordinated throughout the Islamic world, from India to Iraq, through the Mufti’s “Arab Higher Committee.”

Then after 1948, when Israel became an independent nation, the Arab Higher Committee and the Mufti transferred their anti-Jewish and anti-Israel boycott to the Arab League’s Central Boycott Office, headquartered in Damascus, Syria home to the largest site of Nazis after WW2 and who ran the Syrian aremd forces and government.

So this boycott is nothing new. Its claimed to have started in Durban, South Africa 10 years ago.Not quite. Since the 1920's and using oil boycotts against Europe to get them to stop supporting Israel in 1967 and after is one of many such tactics.

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This isn't an anti-Jewish boycott.

It is an anti - Israel boycott.

I read an interesting article about political trolls online, and I understand that the goal of Zionist trolls is to continually misrepresent anti- Israel activism with anti-Jewish prejudice.

Do you think people are paid to do that?

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This isn't an anti-Jewish boycott.

It is an anti - Israel boycott.

I read an interesting article about pokitical trolls online, and I understand that the goal of Zionist trolls is to ccontinually misrepresent anti- Israel aacidity with anti-Jewish prejudice.

Do you think people are paid to do that?

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Yes.

I love to see a young girl go out and grab the world by the lapels. Life's a bitch. You've got to go out and kick ass. - Maya Angelou

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To answer your question JBG the BDA is in fact a subsidiary of the PA working through its PLO Negotiations Department. It works side by side wit the Arab League of Nations Central Boycott Office which was in fact set up in 1951.

Overseas BDS activists openly meet at the American Colony Hotel in Jerusalem where the PA finances them.

The PLO Embassy in the US openly recruits people into the BDS and finances the across the US and Canada.

Here's the kicker-while this goes on, the PA has no problems taking in 30 billion sheckels in technology aid from Israel each year.

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Speaking about that BDS movement hey now as it shuts down Israel;

1-China recently announced an expansion of its extensive technology and military investment in Israel;

2-Britain announced a 6.9 billion exchange of economic trade activity;

3-Argentina oversaw business exchange with Israel;

4-Amazon announced expansion into Israel;

5-theInter Continental hotel chain had a conference in Israel;

6-Ryan Air (Irish)an Easy Jet announced lights to Israel;

7-Burger King announced its on its way back to Israel;

8-The Animal Committee of the Convention on International Trade To Endangered Species had a convention.

Israel you go down! You bad bad bad! Sorry the exclamation marks on the head line get excited.

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Being anti Israel is the same thing as being anti Jewish. Being anti Israel is Antisemitic. They are the same thing.

It absolutely is not. The BDS movement has absolutely nothing to do with judaism. There is no racial or religious component to it. It is entirely about the actions of the government and the military of the nation of Israel. It's what they DO, not who they are that is at issue.

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It absolutely is not. The BDS movement has absolutely nothing to do with judaism. There is no racial or religious component to it. It is entirely about the actions of the government and the military of the nation of Israel. It's what they DO, not who they are that is at issue.

It's covert hatred and discrimination against Jews.

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"For those who believe, no truth is necessary.

For those who don't believe, no truth is acceptable."

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THIS JUST IN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Jenna Jameson is converting to Judaism. This former "adult film" star has begun tweeting in Hebrew, buying Israeli products, and even cooking kosher for her Israeli fiancé.

Great post from an awesome blog Rue. I'm glad you're not getting desperate!

THIS JUST IN! JENNA JAMESON IS TWEETING IN HEBREW! There you have it. It's over for BDS! Zionism is winning against the BDS movement!

I guess Sheldon Adelson will not need to finance another propaganda scheme in order to try to control, the uncontrollable BDS movement.

When I despair, I remember that all through history the way of truth and love have always won. There have been tyrants and murderers, and for a time, they can seem invincible, but in the end, they always fall. Think of it--always. Gandhi

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BDS...Maryland style...nothing for Gaza...I wonder why ?

BIRD - Israel-U.S. Binational Industrial R&D Foundation to Invest $8 million in 10 New Projects. The approved projects involve innovations in the areas of healthcare & wellness, advanced materials, manufacturing technologies, water and others.

During its meeting on June 18, 2015, held in Washington D.C., the Board of Governors of the Israel-U.S. Binational Industrial Research and Development (BIRD) Foundation approved $8 million in funding for ten new projects between U.S. and Israeli companies. In addition to the grants from BIRD, the projects will access private sector funding, boosting the total value of all projects to approximately $19 million.

https://www.marylandisrael.org/news/under-armour-maryland-company-and-life-beam-israel-company-receive-bird-grant-midc-made-introdu

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Economics trumps Virtue. 

 

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BDS...Maryland style...nothing for Gaza...I wonder why ?

BIRD - Israel-U.S. Binational Industrial R&D Foundation to Invest $8 million in 10 New Projects. The approved projects involve innovations in the areas of healthcare & wellness, advanced materials, manufacturing technologies, water and others.

During its meeting on June 18, 2015, held in Washington D.C., the Board of Governors of the Israel-U.S. Binational Industrial Research and Development (BIRD) Foundation approved $8 million in funding for ten new projects between U.S. and Israeli companies. In addition to the grants from BIRD, the projects will access private sector funding, boosting the total value of all projects to approximately $19 million.

https://www.marylandisrael.org/news/under-armour-maryland-company-and-life-beam-israel-company-receive-bird-grant-midc-made-introdu

Not sure what investment in Gaza has anything to do with the BDS movement. Once again you're announcing another irrelevant comparison.

You can deny the significance of the BDS movement all you want. It's useless. Even Israel and the Zionist bankrollers are accepting that the BDS movement is one of the biggest threats to Israel's status quo policies.

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When I despair, I remember that all through history the way of truth and love have always won. There have been tyrants and murderers, and for a time, they can seem invincible, but in the end, they always fall. Think of it--always. Gandhi

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Not sure what investment in Gaza has anything to do with the BDS movement. Once again you're announcing another irrelevant comparison.

You can deny the significance of the BDS movement all you want. It's useless. Even Israel and the Zionist bankrollers are accepting that the BDS movement is one of the biggest threats to Israel's status quo policies.

Not at all....one would expect BDS supporters to advocate and invest in Gaza....poor victims of Israeli aggression !

Maybe buy stock in a terrorist rocket company or sumptin'.

BDS is going strong...except where it ain't.

Economics trumps Virtue. 

 

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Not at all....one would expect BDS supporters to advocate and invest in Gaza....poor victims of Israeli aggression !

Maybe buy stock in a terrorist rocket company or sumptin'.

BDS is going strong...except where it ain't.

This all might make sense in your head and you might think it's funny in your head, but it's not.

No one is talking about investing money into Gaza, especially when there is a blockade and pretty much an open air prison. BDS is not about investing money into Gaza. We are talking about advocating justice in Gaza and the rest of the Occupied Territories. This is where the BDS movement, which has been successful (just ask Sheldon Adelson) comes in.

When I despair, I remember that all through history the way of truth and love have always won. There have been tyrants and murderers, and for a time, they can seem invincible, but in the end, they always fall. Think of it--always. Gandhi

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Such a pity...no BDS love for Gaza. No millions of dollars in capital investment...no lush hotels and spas...no development beyond rockets and suicide vests.

You don't seem to understand what BDS is.

"What do you think of Western civilization?" Gandhi was asked. "I think it would be a good idea," he said.

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You don't seem to understand what BDS is.

In response to that and to educate those who don't know:

The BDS movement was launched by 170 Palestinian civil society organizations in 2005 with three clearly articulated aims:

1) an end to Israel's military occupation of Palestinian territories,

2) full rights for Palestinian citizens of Israel, and

3) the right of return or compensation for Palestinian refugees.

Each of the BDS demands respects international law: the West Bank and East Jerusalem cannot legally be annexed by Israel; the right to equality of Palestinian citizens of Israel is self-evident; and refugees do, in fact, have the right to return to their homes under international law.

BDS does not hold Israel to a higher standard than the country claims for itself. There are countries that commit equal or greater human rights violations, but they do not claim a place among Western democratic nations as does Israel.

When I despair, I remember that all through history the way of truth and love have always won. There have been tyrants and murderers, and for a time, they can seem invincible, but in the end, they always fall. Think of it--always. Gandhi

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More BDS nonsense....the Palestinians don't even hold themselves to such standards...not even for fellow Palestinians. Fail.

I was hoping that would understand what BDS is about but from your response, it looks like you don't.

After pressure from the world, Apartheid South Africa collapsed. Same will happen to Apartheid Israel in the Occupied Territories.

When I despair, I remember that all through history the way of truth and love have always won. There have been tyrants and murderers, and for a time, they can seem invincible, but in the end, they always fall. Think of it--always. Gandhi

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Oh look the propaganda desk is back at it. Must be a slow week to discuss ISIL, Iran, terrorism.

Come on let's talk boys at the script desk. Its the Zion Lion. Hi boys. Who you kidding with this shtick.

Omar Baghouti your beloved BDS Chief couldn't be clearer in his agenda to dismantle the Jewish state of Israel. You Hudson Jones came on this forum citing Zionism as a cancerous concept needing to be wiped out and playing semantics with me as to what that meant. Please. You have made it crystal clear you are against a Jewish state and think any Jew who thinks they are entitled to living in the Jewish state of Israel has cancerous thoughts needing to be wiped out and now you want to pose as an educator of BDS but you won't come clean on its agenda? Lol.

Come ob boys, let'stake the script "HJ" used and I quote:

"the right to equality of Palestinian citizens of Israel is self-evident; and refugees do, in fact, have the right to return to their homes under international law" and make it clear what it is a code or couched reference for.

First let's trace it back,. Your script in fact comes from the following agenda stated by Omar Baghouti in which he said:

“Even if the Israelis remove all their settlements and dismantle their military installations and return to the 1967 borders, the BDS movement will continue because there will still be 5 million Palestinian refugees who are prevented from returning to their homes.”

Your script and "HJ's" statement statement are not about simply askinfg the State of Israel to give up the occupation of the West Bank and East Jerusalem to allow a State of Palestine to come into existence.

Your script calls for the destruction of the Jewish state using a lame couched reference. Your script in fact refers to demanding that 5 million or so Palestinian refugees (the way to determine this is simply to call any Arab who is NOT Jewish who says he is Palestinian to call him that because there is no test)to take up residence in Israel proper.

That is precisely what your words refer to.

This is not just about getting off the West Bank. Its about BDS demanding Israel stop being a Jewish state and take in 5 million Palestinians in addition to getting off the West Bank.

Go on tell them a Palestinian is defined as any Muslim who claims he is Palestinian with no test.

Have the credibility when you come on this forum to not insult peoples' intelligence with such lame propoganda scripts that sanitize your agenda.

BDS is not concerned with just demanding the State of Israel to give up the occupation of the West Bank and East Jerusalem to allow a State of Palestine to come into existence it is about the destruction of the Jewish state. Its about demanding 5 million or so Palestinian refugees to take up residence in Israel proper to undo its being a Jewish state.

Stop mincing your words. While you are at it, have the credibility to discuss who finances BDS or do you want to play that game that none of them are violent terrorists. Hmmmmmm?

BDS is against a two state solution. Even anti Israeli Norm Finklestein the darling of anti Israel groupies has stated as much and criticized it for that stance.

You want to play educator via " HJ" oh come now, how about you also lecture us on where the idea of boycotting Jews comes from.

Oh let me help.

Ever since the Middle Ages, Jews have been the target of boycotts, banned from owning property, attending universities, or practicing a trade or certain trades.

There was a boycott of Jews organized in France in the late 1890s, the Jews of Limerick, Ireland, in 1904 and in Universities in Europe and the United States banning outright Jews or in other cases keeping strict quotas of the number of Jews they would admit.Hell the United Way refused to collect money for Jewish charities in Ontario until the 1960's and its network made it impossible for non Jews to get hired in the Ontario Public Service until the late 60's. Jews. Boycotts. Yah that's a good one. We know the golf courses that had no Jew signs just like the Toronto Beaches. Lol. You think you can pretend boycotting Jews is new? Really? Damn you boys are funny.

In the 1920's Arabs in British Mandate Palestine boycotted the prestate Jewish Yishuv with the intent of discouraging Jewish immigration to Mandate Palestine and prevent the creation of a Jewish state.

in fact the Fifth Palestine-Arab Congress declared a boycott against Jews and called on all Arabs to refuse to sell them land and boycott Jewish businesses and extended to all Jewish goods by 1929.

Then In 1931 the Arab Workers Committee published a list of Jewish goods to boycott, sending it to all Muslim countries and the West.

In 1937 at the Arab Congress meeting in Syria they passed motions calling for the Balfour Declaration to be scrapped and calling for an economic boycott of Jews.

In 1945 just after the creation of the Arab League it declared a collective boycott of the Jews in the then British Mandated Palestine.

Go on have " HJ " educate the forum about Coca Cola and how it was boycotted in 1966 by the Arab world and disappeared from supermarket shelves around the Arab world and how on August 16, 2014, BDS mobs trashed the Coca-Cola section of a Tesco supermarket in Birmingham, England, protesting the soft-drink giant’s continued presence in Israel.

Lol. Didn't seem to work now did it.

How about you educate them what happened in 1973. Indeed. After the 1973 Yom Kippur War, Arab oil-producing countries imposed an oil embargo on the United States and other Western countries as a punishment for supporting Israel.

Well I do remember Holland refusing to turn on Israel and its people carrying on driving their bikes. Didn't impact on the US. They carried on.

Or how about you educate them on how two faced the Palestinian Authority is because it recycled the boycotts calling them BDS in 2005 or do you want to deny the BDS movement is controlled by the PA?

This is the same PA while it funds BDS and BDS repeats its script against Israel's existence,established economic ties with Israel and initiated wide-ranging from private business ventures with the creation of PA investment vehicles such as the Palestinian Investment Fund (PIF) and the World Bank-funded Planning and Development Collaborative International (PADCO.

You really want to continue with this shtick?

In July 2004 when former terrrorist and Palestinian "engineer" Omar Barghouti supposedly established the Palestinian Campaign for the Academic and Cultural Boycott of Israel (PACBI) you want to pretend this is the beginning of the boycotts? Lol.

"HJ" just once stop couching your script and spit it out direct and clear.

The Haifa Declaration is the basus for your script reference for the equality for Israeli Arabs and Palestnians.

Go on have the honesty to state what it means.

Go on educate.

Here let me help. It demands/means and I quote right from it: “a change in the constitutional structure and a change in the definition of the State of Israel from a Jewish state” to a form of binational state."

It also demands an end to the Law of Return of Jews in Israel and, and again I quote directly from it, “guaranteeing the Palestinian citizens in Israel the right of veto” over laws.

Go on educate.

Explain who the National Committee for the Heads of the Arab Local Authorities in Israel are and how they demand in their script which originates from the same propoganda as yours in its script entitled, “Future Vision of the Palestinian Arabs in Israel” what it refers to as "substantial political and cultural autonomy for Arab citizens of Israel as a precondition of equality"

BDS is funded and is a mouth piece of the PA and is financed by Saudi Arabia, Iran, Oman, Qatar.

The PA stands for dismantling the Jewish state by turning it Muslim majority with so called Palestinian refugees, over 5 million.

Only when Israel ceases being Jewish and takes in 5 million or more so called Palestinians will the PA recognize it-that is what Abbas has stated over and over again and BDS repeats this position.

The only difference between BDS , Hezbollah, Hamas, Iran, ISIL, Al Quaeda, Palestinian Jihad, Palestinian Intifada, the PFLP, is that the BDS to use boycotts as its weapon of choice.

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After pressure from the world, Apartheid South Africa collapsed. Same will happen to Apartheid Israel in the Occupied Territories.

Big difference would be the money and US support for Israel.

But I believe this is slowly changing now that the US is the #2 world economy behind China.

And with India climbing at a rate to surpass the US by 10 years, the US is very inclined in changing their might is right approach to "lets all be buddies now like as if nothing happened in the past"

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Omar Baghouti your beloved BDS Chief couldn't be clearer in his agenda to dismantle the Jewish state of Israel. You Hudson Jones came on this forum citing Zionism as a cancerous concept needing to be wiped out and playing semantics with me as to what that meant. Please. You have made it crystal clear you are against a Jewish state and think any Jew who thinks they are entitled to living in the Jewish state of Israel has cancerous thoughts needing to be wiped out and now you want to pose as an educator of BDS but you won't come clean on its agenda? Lol.

1 - Unless you have a quote and a link from Omar Barghouti, who is not a "BDS Chief", then your comment is just another one of the many empty accusations that you are known for making. Like the drivel about what I stand for and my thoughts on the existence of Israel.

2- The BDS movement specifically and clearly states in its 3rd demand: the right of return or compensation for Palestinian refugees. Let that digest before you comeback for another keyboard pounding session.

When I despair, I remember that all through history the way of truth and love have always won. There have been tyrants and murderers, and for a time, they can seem invincible, but in the end, they always fall. Think of it--always. Gandhi

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Big difference would be the money and US support for Israel.

But I believe this is slowly changing now that the US is the #2 world economy behind China.

And with India climbing at a rate to surpass the US by 10 years, the US is very inclined in changing their might is right approach to "lets all be buddies now like as if nothing happened in the past"

WWWTT

I think the big difference is the Jewish population outside of Israel. More and more Jews are speaking out against Israel because they can no longer relate to what they do and stand for. Majority of them are younger Jews who are well-informed due to the information they're able to get outside of the mainstream media.

There are some prominent Jewish groups in the U.S., like Jewish Voice for Peace, who have done so much to advance the BDS movement.

This is why Zionist bank rollers like Sheldon Adelson are putting so much money in order to fight BDS. It doesn't matter how much the Rue's or the BC2004 try to tell us that the BDS movement is not a threat to Zionism, the truth says otherwise.

When I despair, I remember that all through history the way of truth and love have always won. There have been tyrants and murderers, and for a time, they can seem invincible, but in the end, they always fall. Think of it--always. Gandhi

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I think the big difference is the Jewish population outside of Israel. More and more Jews are speaking out against Israel because they can no longer relate to what they do and stand for. Majority of them are younger Jews who are well-informed due to the information they're able to get outside of the mainstream media.

There are some prominent Jewish groups in the U.S., like Jewish Voice for Peace, who have done so much to advance the BDS movement.

Lets hope so!

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