Encouraging Developments Against Zionist Apartheid Regime!

[marcus]

Most of the world is made up of people who are vastly ignorant about anything that isn't on reality television. They don't matter. The people who matter know what's important.

Americans are well-known for not being ignorant and not watching reality television. And Americans are the only people who matter. This is what you're saying.

Not because this is the point you were trying to make, but there is truth in your second sentence:

"Americans are the only people who matter"

Because as long as the American people's consent can be controlled in regards to the Israeli/Palestinian situation, then there will be little resistance to the congressmen and senators who have been bought by the Israeli lobby who have made it possible, through political and financial support, to continue to give Israel impunity.

This impunity is ending though. Here are the 3 main reasons why:

1) The world has already come around and their governments are coming around as well. This is especially apparent in Europe.

2) There is also another powerful movement, which are the Jews living in America. Many can no longer relate to and stomach Israel's behaviour, which ties into the third reason;

3) The boycott and divestment movement. It's here, it's real, it's effective and the Zionist lobby is unable to stop its momentum.

[jacee]

Nonsense. You're just upset that it's Jews doing the killing. You don't care about the thousands and tens of thousands being killed in a dozen other conflicts around the world because they don't involve Jews.

If Palestine was on our border and firing rockets at Vancouver we'd reduce the entire place to rubble, if necessary, to get them to stop.

And if that killed a whole lot of people over there, well, that's sad but not our fault.

/report disgusting personal attack

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[bush_cheney2004]

Israel, along with Egypt, Jordan, and Palestine all have received many billion$ in U.S. foreign aid as a direct result of the Camp David peace accords and other initiatives. U.S. taxpayers have ponied up over $100 billion, far more than Canada or other nations who offer up their "world opinion" about such matters because it is cheap to do so.

[bush_cheney2004]

Canada continues to be one of Israel's closest import-export trading partners:

Canada-Israel bilateral goods trade has more than doubled since CIFTA came into force, from $507.3 million in 1996 to $1.4 billion in 2012. Canada's consideration of whether and to what extent to expand the coverage of the CIFTA will take into account, inter alia, potential stakeholder interests through a public consultation process.

On January 21, 2014, Prime Minister Stephen Harper and Benjamin Netanyahu, Prime Minister of the State of Israel, announced the launch of negotiations to expand and modernize the CIFTA Agreement

http://www.international.gc.ca/trade-agreements-accords-commerciaux/agr-acc/israel/info.aspx?lang=eng

[bush_cheney2004]

The Canada-Israel Industrial R&D partnership has been going strong for 20 years:

The Canada-Israel Industrial Research and Development Foundation (CIIRDF) was established in 1994 to promote collaborative R&D between firms in both countries. With a sophisticated research base to draw on in each country, Canadian and Israeli companies are well suited to form productive partnerships.

[Argus]

Why don't you try to respond to the responses to your disinformation instead of your typical drive-by disinformation or worrying about polling?

If you can find a single thing I've said which is incorrect, go to town, boy.

[Argus]

Americans are well-known for not being ignorant and not watching reality television. And Americans are the only people who matter. This is what you're saying.

I'm saying the opinions of street trash don't matter. Most of them are illiterate, have little to no knowledge of what's going on in their own country, let alone another one, and have no power to affect anything anyway. Even the street trash from the West mostly don't vote or have any money or influence.

The power brokers don't pay any attention to them.

[Argus]

/report disgusting personal attack

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I'm sorry. Have I missed all your anguished postings about the fate of the people in other countries beset by war?

[jacee]

I'm sorry. Have I missed all your anguished postings about the fate of the people in other countries beset by war?

Genocide is disturbing no matter who's doing it.

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[Guest]

There's only one group in the Israeli/Palestinian conflict bent on Genocide. Thankfully, they're pretty useless.

[jbg]

The world has an overwhelming unfavourable view of Israel. U.S. is the only country with a favourable view. This is mostly due to the one-sided, controlled media in the U.S. as it has been shown from research, where "Palestinians attack and Israel defends".

US is only western country with favorable views of Israel

And the news only gets worse. Here are some of the highlights from the BBC poll:

• On average, in the 22 tracking countries surveyed both in 2012 and 2013, 52 percent of respondents had negative views of Israel’s influence in the world, an increase of two points from last year.

• Out of the 25 countries polled in 2013, 20 lean negative, three lean positive, and two are divided.

• The United States is the only Western country surveyed holding favorable views of Israel, and the only country in the survey with a majority of positive ratings (51 percent, stable).

• Views of Israel in Canada and in Australia remain entrenched in negative territory with respectively 57 and 69 percent of unfavourable views.

• In the EU countries surveyed, views of Israeli influence are all strongly negative and have either hardened further or remained stable.

• The United Kingdom is the most unfavorable country towards Israel in the EU with 72 percent of Britons holding negative ratings.

• The UK is followed by Spain (70% negative) where views have deteriorated due to a loss of positive ratings, now at just 4 percent (down from 12 perent).

• Positive views have dropped eight points in Germany over the past year, down to 8 percent in 2013 while negative inclinations have remained stable at 67 percent.

• In France, the picture is stable with 21 percent giving positive views (vs 63 percent negative) France is the EU country with the highest proportion of favorable ratings.

• Newly asked countries Poland and Greece have negative pluralities of 44 and 46 percent respectively, while just 15 percent lean positively towards Israel in both countries.

Most people in the world have negative views about Jews and yet want Jewish lawyers, doctors and other professionals. I am Jewish.

I really don't care about your "opinion numbers." Most people in the U.S. didn't want to mix with blacks in the 1950's. Do you think the majority sentiment made it right?

[jbg]

The Canada-Israel Industrial R&D partnership has been going strong for 20 years:

Interesting.

I did not know that Canada had diplomatic or commercial relations with Israel.

[jacee]

Most people in the world have negative views about Jews and yet want Jewish lawyers, doctors and other professionals. I am Jewish.

Don't take it personally, jbg.

That poll is about Israel (50% negative) not Jews in general.

This poll is about Jews (25% negative):

http://www.adl.org/press-center/press-releases/anti-semitism-international/adl-global-100-poll.html

And for comparison, here's one on opinions about the US (30%negative):

http://worldpublicopinion.org/pipa/articles/views_on_countriesregions_bt/680.php?lb=btvoc&pnt=680&nid=&id=

People like Jews better than they like the US, but not Israel.

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Edited July 28, 2014 by jacee

[jbg]

Don't take it personally, jbg.

This is about Israel's military actions.

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No it isn't. Israel has drawn more condemnation for Gaza than Russian has for Crimea or the recent turkey shoot of the plane (link). Edited July 28, 2014 by jbg

[marcus]

I'm saying the opinions of street trash don't matter. Most of them are illiterate, have little to no knowledge of what's going on in their own country, let alone another one, and have no power to affect anything anyway. Even the street trash from the West mostly don't vote or have any money or influence.

The power brokers don't pay any attention to them.

Even Canadians have an unfavourable view of Israel.

Again. Only Americans have a favourable view.

By your definition: Only Americans are not street trash and everyone else is.

This is what happens when you mix bigotry with ignorance. Which usually go together anyway.

[marcus]

Most people in the world have negative views about Jews and yet want Jewish lawyers, doctors and other professionals. I am Jewish.

I really don't care about your "opinion numbers." Most people in the U.S. didn't want to mix with blacks in the 1950's. Do you think the majority sentiment made it right?

Many people can distinguish between Zionist and Jews. It's kind of like distinguishing between Muslims and Wahabists.

Zionists are in favour of human rights violations in order to have selfish gains. This is the reason Israel has such an unfavourable view around the world. Including in Canada.

[bush_cheney2004]

Canada supports Israel's present operations to stop rocket attacks and destroy terror tunnels in Gaza.

Edited July 28, 2014 by bush_cheney2004

[jacee]

Canada supports Israel's present operations to stop rocket attacks and destroy terror tunnels in Gaza.

Harper is not "Canada".

[Hal 9000]

Genocide is disturbing no matter who's doing it.

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You know you don't really believe that!

Just a question; As a female, would you consider Christianity and Judaism better or worse than Islam?

[jacee]

You know you don't really believe that!

Yes I do.

Just a question; As a female, would you consider Christianity and Judaism better or worse than Islam?

I consider all organized religions equally disgusting. It's just mind control for the masses, with the rich and powerful pulling the strings.

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Edited July 28, 2014 by jacee

[Hal 9000]

I consider all organized religions equally disgusting. It's just mind control for the masses, with the rich and powerful pulling the strings.

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I guess that was predictable.

You basically live in a Christian society, are you saying that you'd just a equally be OK living in a Muslim society...you know, with Sharia Law?

[Rue]

Don't take it personally, Jacee says to JBG. Oh well then phew. I am sure he did until she assured the Jew JBG that not everyone hates Jews. Then of course there's Marcus chiming in that most people know the difference between you know Jews Jews as opposed to bad Zionist Jews. Right.

Jew experts. Well then all settled.

Oh but wait. Someone tell the Jewsperts that's my new word for those who can distinguish good Jews from bad Jews that I could care less who they define as an acceptable or unacceptable Jew, they can take their attempt to tell me what an acceptable Jew is and.......

Talk about patronizing and bigoted let alone ignorant. Where the hell does anyone get off assuming they define what is an acceptable Jew?

But wait, how about Marcus and Jacee explain to the angry Muslims now attacking synagogues across Europe the difference between Jew Jews and Zionist Jews. How about they explain to Erdogan in Turkey that he incited attacks on German synagogues calling out Nazi slurs to all Israelis repeatedly in his support of Hamas.

Say now in the real world when Muslims attack synagogue across Europe chanting death to Jews, when the Charter of Hamas calling for the killing of Jews world wide does not distingiuish Jew Jews from Zionist Jews and when supposedly peaceful Muslims who according to Marcus know the difference between a Jew Jew and a Zionist Je march on Queen's park chanting death to Jews, where is he and Jacee? Are they in the crowds saying, oh now stop brothers and sisters, please put the word Zionist in front of the word Jew when making your death threat and call for genocide, then its o.k. Have they asked Hamas to revise their charter to only refer to genocide of Zionist Jews as opposed to Jew Jews?

Can such posts get any more absurd.

Edited July 28, 2014 by Rue

[dre]

So you're saying the Palestinian people wholeheartedly support Hamas firing rockets into Israel?

That would pretty much mean it's their own fault if they get bombed.

Read much? Im saying that when Israel rains down bombs and killed hundreds of civilians it generates political support for hawks like Hamas.

That would pretty much mean it's their own fault if they get bombed.

Right... guess the same thing goes for likud voters and Israelis that support the occupation as well!

[jbg]

Many people can distinguish between Zionist and Jews. It's kind of like distinguishing between Muslims and Wahabists.

Zionists are in favour of human rights violations in order to have selfish gains. This is the reason Israel has such an unfavourable view around the world. Including in Canada.

Zionism was the name of the movement to establish Israel as a Jewish national homeland. Your definition is perverted, wrong and comes from a now-repealed 1975 U.N. Resolution.

[-TSS-]

I kind of sit on the fence concerning this issue of the Middle-east conflict but I have to say that every time anyone rants about "Zionists" doing this or that I lose the will to listen to that person, which could be a shame because amid all the biased hatred there could be even some valid points..