Big Guy Posted May 27, 2014 Report Share Posted May 27, 2014 (edited) I was watching the baseball game on Monday. Noticed that the Blue Jays were wearing camouflage ballcaps and camo-detailed jerseys, just like every other team in baseball on America’s Memorial Day. Good for the Americans but the Jays are a Canadian team. America is a different country. http://www.theglobeandmail.com/sports/make-sports-not-war/article18861318/ Why is a Canadian team joining in an American celebration of their armed forces on Canadian soil? Is it appropriate to have done so? Do we expect the American teams to acknowledge Canadian celebrations? Edited May 27, 2014 by Big Guy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
guyser Posted May 27, 2014 Report Share Posted May 27, 2014 (edited) Hmm....kind of snarky doncha think? But ok, what if MLB mandates they do so ? It isnt appropriate to me, whether there or here, but my give shite meter is broken and cant muster much ire.There are plenty of Yanks on the team so if being nice to them and allowing a little Memorial showboating so be it. On your last point...... :lol: that would mean they understand thees more to the world than just the USA. IOW...nope ! Edited May 27, 2014 by Guyser2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bush_cheney2004 Posted May 27, 2014 Report Share Posted May 27, 2014 Major League Baseball thinks so. Lots of Canadians have served and died in the service of the U.S. armed forces over the years. Cpl. Bernard Gooden, USMC was the first Canadian killed in action during the invasion of Iraq. I'm sure he liked going to baseball games too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Hardner Posted May 27, 2014 Report Share Posted May 27, 2014 As long as the Jays get to wear redcoats during the 1812 memorial game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boges Posted May 27, 2014 Report Share Posted May 27, 2014 I read that the proceeds from selling the jerseys would go towards supporting Canadian troops. It would have looked bad if they were the only team not to participate. The Raptors and Leafs have both appeared in fatigues uniforms in the past. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bush_cheney2004 Posted May 27, 2014 Report Share Posted May 27, 2014 I'm pretty sure that the Canadian anthem is played at U.S. stadia whenever the visting team is from Canada. All-Star game too. The Canadian flag is displayed as well. Perhaps the American television market for the Jays game would have made it impractical for only the visiting Americans to wear camo but not the Americans on the Jays team. My local market team only donned camo style ball caps and accents, not entire camo uniforms. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Hardner Posted May 27, 2014 Report Share Posted May 27, 2014 Leafs have both appeared in fatigues uniforms in the past. The Leafs uniform best symbolizes fatigue, IMO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Hardner Posted May 27, 2014 Report Share Posted May 27, 2014 not the Americans on the Jays team. Hmmm... 3/9 fielders are American born, with one Canadian and 5 from Dominican Republic. Probably more apt to ask these guys what colour uniform to wear during Our Lady of Las Mercedes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bush_cheney2004 Posted May 27, 2014 Report Share Posted May 27, 2014 Hmmm... 3/9 fielders are American born, with one Canadian and 5 from Dominican Republic. It's a baseball team, not just the starting nine. Clubhouse chemistry would have taken a beating if somebody made a stink about it. If American memorials are not appropriate, then why be part of an otherwise very American product and experience. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moonlight Graham Posted May 27, 2014 Report Share Posted May 27, 2014 But ok, what if MLB mandates they do so ? Tell MLB to kiss it. Blue Jays are a Canadian team and shouldn't celebrate American military holidays. How many American teams honoured Victoria Day or will be shooting fireworks on July 1st for Canada Day? My guess is zero. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boges Posted May 27, 2014 Report Share Posted May 27, 2014 Hmmm... 3/9 fielders are American born, with one Canadian and 5 from Dominican Republic. Probably more apt to ask these guys what colour uniform to wear during Our Lady of Las Mercedes. Short of the new Aussie starter, I believe every other pitcher of note is American. The Jays are the only Non American team in the league. Towing the line isn't a big deal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Hardner Posted May 27, 2014 Report Share Posted May 27, 2014 ... very American product and experience. It's kind of sad to think of baseball as merely *very* American. See you on Simcoe Day, BC. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boges Posted May 27, 2014 Report Share Posted May 27, 2014 Tell MLB to kiss it. Blue Jays are a Canadian team and shouldn't celebrate American military holidays. How many American teams honoured Victoria Day or will be shooting fireworks on July 1st for Canada Day? My guess is zero. Canadian teams didn't even celebrate that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
guyser Posted May 27, 2014 Report Share Posted May 27, 2014 (edited) Tell MLB to kiss it.I doubt they will, they got money from the new uni's and caps going to CDn soldiers. Win Win. But I get some are prickly about this. Blue Jays are a Canadian team and shouldn't celebrate American military holidays.I doubt they had any celebration of Americans yesterday (in TO) but covered it with CDN military. How many American teams honoured Victoria Day or will be shooting fireworks on July 1st for Canada Day? My guess is zero. Myopic for sure, but you know we are used to wintessing this . Not to mention,if in the NHL If Canadian memorials are not appropriate, then why be part of an otherwise very Canadian product and experience. Edited May 27, 2014 by Guyser2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moonlight Graham Posted May 27, 2014 Report Share Posted May 27, 2014 Canadian teams didn't even celebrate that. Well they were on a road trip, not at home, put did post this: http://torontobluejays.tumblr.com/post/50912053954/happy-victoria-day Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moonlight Graham Posted May 27, 2014 Report Share Posted May 27, 2014 I doubt they had any celebration of Americans yesterday (in TO) but covered it with CDN military. Fair enough, I doubt they mentioned anything about Memorial Day. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boges Posted May 27, 2014 Report Share Posted May 27, 2014 I can't really believe the most attention this team gets on this site is because they wore camo unis. THEY'RE IN FIRST PLACE! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
guyser Posted May 27, 2014 Report Share Posted May 27, 2014 They get lots of attention....leading in plenty of angles, the least is the power of the home run. Wrong forum to post in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
guyser Posted May 27, 2014 Report Share Posted May 27, 2014 Big Guy, the Jays used a mock up of CADPAT which is camouflage for Canucks by Canucks. All proceeds from sales went to the CDN military. The American based teams used Marpat (not sure but IIRC) and the uni's had the same. The Jays only had it on hats and the numbers on the back of players. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jbg Posted May 28, 2014 Report Share Posted May 28, 2014 Why is a Canadian team joining in an American celebration of their armed forces on Canadian soil?We're allies. One for all, all for one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boges Posted May 28, 2014 Report Share Posted May 28, 2014 (edited) Now if the Jays wore something to commemorate the 4th of July, I could see people getting peeved. That wouldn't happen though. The Jays almost always have home games on Canada Day and wear spiffy Red Canada inspired jersey's. Edited May 28, 2014 by Boges Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
overthere Posted May 28, 2014 Report Share Posted May 28, 2014 The Leafs uniform best symbolizes fatigue, IMO. I would say 'despair' is better. If the Jays don't mark Memorial Day with camo, they should not recognize Jackie Robinson Day either. Robinson was an African American. Toronto is not in Africa or America. For those that don't know of this wonderful MLB tradition.... Jackie Robinson was the first African American player to play on a MLB team, in 1947. He was not just an oustanding player, but a man of great character who rose above the racism. Every year for one game, every player on every team in Major League Baseball wears the same number-42- that Robinson wore in his career. It's a touching tribute and tradition. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boges Posted May 28, 2014 Report Share Posted May 28, 2014 Jackie Robinson day is a Baseball thing. It's argued that commemorating Memorial Day is a National/American thing. As much as it's nice to show support for the "troops" this whole camo uniform thing is a way to sell merchandise. http://www.forbes.com/sites/tomwatson/2014/05/26/a-memorial-day-question-has-military-cause-marketing-gone-too-far/ In October you'll see NFL players and coaches wearing Pink merch during games. Sure money is to be made for a great cause, but more money is to be made by selling more gear. They do it in Europe by changing Soccer "Kits" every single year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GostHacked Posted May 28, 2014 Report Share Posted May 28, 2014 Sports teams should not be making political statements like this period. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boges Posted May 28, 2014 Report Share Posted May 28, 2014 Sports teams should not be making political statements like this period. As long as you qualify that with ALL and not make it seem like we, as Canadians, are above this. Canadian teams frequently do things to "honour" the troops. Lupe's Troops by the Leafs comes to mind. I get the sense that more people are rankled by a Canadian team recognizing an American holiday than a Canadian team supporting the troops by wearing Camo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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