This week in Islam

[drummindiver]

5 hours ago, WestCoastRunner said:

Or 'let's critize white men in canada' for domestic violence and killings. 

I understand the retaliatory thread that was created about Christians etc. 

These threads are filled with hatred and one upmanship. 

 

Why white men. That's racist misandry

 

[betsy]

So, "sexual emergency" - whatever the heck that means - is now a justifiable reason for rape.

 

 

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3rd November 2016

PUTIN EU TO THE SWORD

Vladimir Putin blasts Europe for ‘failing to defend its children’ after refugee was cleared of raping boy, 10, because it was ‘sexual emergency’

Russian president says incident involving Iraqi migrant and child at Austrian swimming pool shows 'dissolution of values'

 

The Russian president slammed European governments after the 20-year-old Iraqi’s conviction was quashed – when judges said the court couldn’t prove he knew the child had said no.

 

He said: “In a European country, a child is raped by a migrant – and the court releases him.”

He said the case highlighted “the dissolution of traditional national values”.

And he added: “A society that cannot defend its children has no future.”

 

Last month, it emerged that Austrian newspaper editor Christoph Biro would face trial for branding refugees testosterone-driven Syrians” and claiming many had carried out “extremely aggressive sexual assaults”.

 

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/2110214/vladimir-putin-europe-failing-defend-children-refugee-cleared-raping-boy-10-sexual-emergency/

 

 

Why am I, reluctantly, starting to like Putin?

Edited December 19, 2016 by betsy

[betsy]

The plight of countless Africans in need of humanitarian assistance, are getting overshadowed by the sheer focus on Syria.

 

 

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Maiduguri overwhelmed by victims of Boko Haram insurgency

December 16, 2016

Maiduguri (Nigeria) (AFP) - Ali Bukar didn't know anyone when he arrived in Maiduguri with 43 people in tow and not a coin in his pocket.

Bukar was fleeing the brutal killings of civilians by the Boko Haram Islamists in northeast Nigeria -- along with his wives, his sons, their wives and grandchildren.

They slept in a parking lot "until a man took pity on us," he said.

Around one million people have flooded the capital of Borno state seeking to escape the insurgency that Boko Haram has waged since 2009.

 

https://www.yahoo.com/news/maiduguri-overwhelmed-victims-boko-haram-insurgency-034314887.html

[?Impact]

1 hour ago, betsy said:

Why am I, reluctantly, starting to like Putin?

I guess because truth means nothing to you, only sensationalism. The court did not release the man, despite Putin saying they did. That is a 100% lie, pure fabrication brought to you by the like of Alex Jones another compulsive liar.

[betsy]

11 minutes ago, ?Impact said:

I guess because truth means nothing to you, only sensationalism. The court did not release the man, despite Putin saying they did. That is a 100% lie, pure fabrication brought to you by the like of Alex Jones another compulsive liar.

You talking about yourself?  Doing the ostrich position again? 

 

 

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Migrant’s rape sentence overturned after court can’t prove victim said no

He brutally sexually assaulted the 10-year-old boy in the pool’s changing room – before returning for a swim, later claiming it was a “sexual emergency” as he hadn’t had sex for four months.

After the boy alerted a lifeguard, police arrested the man at the scene and the boy was taken to hospital with severe internal injuries. The victim, whose mother is from Serbia, continues to suffer from severe post-traumatic stress disorder.

 

http://nypost.com/2016/10/24/migrants-rape-sentence-overturned-after-court-cant-prove-victim-said-no/

 

It's hard to imagine a child sustaining SEVERE injuries.....without saying, or conveying NO! 

 

Is the judge, retard?  ....or a bleeding heart, bleeding for the wrong side?  Wouldn't be surprised if  he likes 10 year old boys too! 

 

Liberalism is......sick.

 

It's a toss up who's worse:  Islamist terrorists, or liberals.

 

Edited December 19, 2016 by betsy

[?Impact]

1 minute ago, betsy said:

Liberals are......sick.

Non-Liberal resort to lies and fabrication to prove a point, which of course makes it 100% meaningless. I repeat, the truth is the man was not release as Putin lied and gullible stooges believed him. The world is not black and white, but they lying non-Liberals want you believe it is because then they can resort to changing it to fit their own sick, twisted, demented form.

 

Again the man was not released - period. That is an undeniable fact.

[betsy]

20 minutes ago, ?Impact said:

Non-Liberal resort to lies and fabrication to prove a point, which of course makes it 100% meaningless. I repeat, the truth is the man was not release as Putin lied and gullible stooges believed him. The world is not black and white, but they lying non-Liberals want you believe it is because then they can resort to changing it to fit their own sick, twisted, demented form.

 

Again the man was not released - period. That is an undeniable fact.

Release.  Is that all there is from that quote I gave????  Thank goodness not everyone wallows on that shallow pool that tries to pass for the well of intelligence this days.

 

 The boy was raped. And the moron judge threw out the rape case.....saying they can't prove the boy had said no!  

 

If judges and law-makers are unable to protect our children - and society willingly looks the other way - then,  what Putin said rings so true!

That's the substance that's quite lost to you.

 

 

 

 

Edited December 19, 2016 by betsy

[betsy]

I'm beginning to agree to what others had said: 

 

liberalism is the true evil, not terrorism.

Edited December 19, 2016 by betsy

[?Impact]

1 minute ago, betsy said:

 That's the substance that's quite lost to you.

Even the sensationalist NY post tabloid to which you linked admits the guy was not released. That is the substance that is quite lost on you. You prefer to make believe instead of looking at the truth. The true evil in this world is those that lie, and lie again.

[betsy]

Let's see how many will come forth trying to defend the ruling of the judge...... and cloud the real issue.

 

Those who like sodomizing 10 year olds - raise your hands. Line up with the judge! Tell me you can't tell a boy,  who's getting inflicted with internal injuries, is saying no!

 

Fools! Idiots!   And you want us to believe women getting date raped are really saying no?   Hypocrites!

Edited December 19, 2016 by betsy

[?Impact]

17 minutes ago, betsy said:

Let's see how many will come forth trying to defend the ruling of the judge...... and cloud the real issue.

There has been zero defending of the ruling of the judge, just exposure of the lie that Putin told and the stooges accept. This is not about the ruling of the judge, it is about the 100% complete fabrication that the accused was released. The terms fools and idiots applies to those that cannot accept the truth and have to resort to lies to fabricate a completely different story.

[betsy]

8 minutes ago, ?Impact said:

There has been zero defending of the ruling of the judge, just exposure of the lie that Putin told and the stooges accept. This is not about the ruling of the judge, it is about the 100% complete fabrication that the accused was released.

We're not on the same page.  You're talking about that issue, while I'm talking about the other.  :shrug:

 

You prefer to latch on Putin's statement that the rapist was released.....to you, that's the news. 

  I know what he said.  Yes, he was wrong in saying that.....the news agencies quoted him on that.   But to me, that's not the real issue.  To me, the idiotic ruling of the judge, is the issue!

 

I can understand Putin exploding, and maybe he even cursed and spat , and lost his cool over what that moronic judge had said!  To say that he felt frustrated and aghast must be an understatement.  Well - that's sensational news! 

 

You go for sensationalism (you want to sensationalize his usage of "release" ) - I go for the substance!

 

To each his own. :shrug:

Edited December 19, 2016 by betsy

[?Impact]

1 minute ago, betsy said:

To me, the idiotic ruling of the judge, is the issue!

First one has to understand the ruling before expressing an opinion on it. You said you are starting to love Putin and quoted his lies, now you seem to be back peddling but not admitting what you earlier claimed. You call the judge a moron, but obviously have zero comprehension of maintaining integrity of law. The law is not about emotion, yet you let your emotion be your only guide. We need to have clear and defensible judgements, or else the law becomes meaningless. A bad judgement will weaken the law, and weaken this case as well. You might feel for justice, but that will destroy civilization. Understand the meaning of blind justice, that concept has been around for centuries and is crucial.

[betsy]

37 minutes ago, ?Impact said:

First one has to understand the ruling before expressing an opinion on it. You said you are starting to love Putin and quoted his lies, now you seem to be back peddling but not admitting what you earlier claimed. You call the judge a moron, but obviously have zero comprehension of maintaining integrity of law. The law is not about emotion, yet you let your emotion be your only guide. We need to have clear and defensible judgements, or else the law becomes meaningless. A bad judgement will weaken the law, and weaken this case as well. You might feel for justice, but that will destroy civilization. Understand the meaning of blind justice, that concept has been around for centuries and is crucial.

 

 

This is his statement:

 

He said: “In a European country, a child is raped by a migrant – and the court releases him.”

He said the case highlighted “the dissolution of traditional national values”.

And he added: “A society that cannot defend its children has no future.”

 

The only faulty thing  is his inaccurate usage of "releases."  The rape sentence was overturned.

 

 

I like the substance of his message. I agree with the rest of his statement!  That's why I said, I'm beginning to, reluctantly, like Putin.  What can I say?  That's how feel about the guy.

 

 

Actually - I scratched off "reluctantly."  He's not the old USSR.......and he's no worse than China! 

Edited December 19, 2016 by betsy

[drummindiver]

Here's what happened in Ottawa in Islam.

http://www.ctvnews.ca/mobile/canada/ottawa-man-29-charged-with-murder-in-deaths-of-his-two-sisters-1.3208497?autoPlay=true

[betsy]

30 minutes ago, drummindiver said:

Here's what happened in Ottawa in Islam.

http://www.ctvnews.ca/mobile/canada/ottawa-man-29-charged-with-murder-in-deaths-of-his-two-sisters-1.3208497?autoPlay=true

In fairness, I don't think the news report identified them as Muslims.  Even if they are Muslims.....we've yet to know of the motive, too.  We can't attribute every criminal act done by a Muslim to Islam religion.

Edited December 19, 2016 by betsy

[drummindiver]

11 minutes ago, betsy said:

In fairness, I don't think the news report identified them as Muslims.  Even if they are Muslims.....we've yet to know of the motive, too.  We can't attribute every criminal act done by a Muslim to Islam religion.

My bad. I had heard and read several times they were and thought this report also mentioned that.

I agree, I jumped the shark on assuming honour killing. It's like a scientific theory though. It may not be steadfast,  but after awhile you feel confident in putting your money down.

http://m.torontosun.com/2016/12/17/ottawa-double-killing-victims-were-somali-sisters

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[?Impact]

1 hour ago, betsy said:

“the dissolution of traditional national values”.

“A society that cannot defend its children has no future.”

Protecting the integrity of the justice system is a national value.

There is absolutely nothing in this ruling that has the slightest to do with defending children, that is pure sensationalism.

On all 3 counts, Putin is a liar and sensationalist.

[betsy]

2 minutes ago, ?Impact said:

Protecting the integrity of the justice system is a national value.

 

What justice system????

 

Sit down, and seriously  reflect on that.

Edited December 19, 2016 by betsy

[?Impact]

1 minute ago, betsy said:

What justice system????

 

Sit down, and seriously  reflect on that.

Yes, good advice. Get your head out of the Old Testament, and understand where justice is today. I agree that it is an extremely flawed system, but it is about a hundred trillion times better than the Old Testament.

[betsy]

7 minutes ago, ?Impact said:

Yes, good advice. Get your head out of the Old Testament, and understand where justice is today. I agree that it is an extremely flawed system, but it is about a hundred trillion times better than the Old Testament.

It didn't take that long for you to raise up the Bible card, huh?

 

  That makes it official - I must be winning!

 

....and you haven't got a clue why I asked, "What justice system?"  Isn't that the whole point?

The judge's ruling?  His reasoning?  Hello?  Does that ring a bell?

Edited December 19, 2016 by betsy

[?Impact]

1 minute ago, betsy said:

It didn't take that long for you to raise up the Bible card, huh?

We are in the Religion & Politics section, although I guess Sharia law is more appropriate for this specific topic. Are you arguing for Sharia law?

[betsy]

17 minutes ago, ?Impact said:

We are in the Religion & Politics section, although I guess Sharia law is more appropriate for this specific topic. Are you arguing for Sharia law?

?????  Huh?

 

Stick to the Austrian Judge ruling, will you?