Marocc Posted July 18, 2019 Report Share Posted July 18, 2019 24 minutes ago, Goddess said: The scary part is that even though he is a radical Islamist and banned in a lot of countries, he still has 200 million viewers. Including Marocc, Tell me one thing that supposedly makes him a radical. Just one thing. A small thing. Just one. DoP can help. Im sure you can come up with something. There's no doubt. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marocc Posted July 18, 2019 Report Share Posted July 18, 2019 16 minutes ago, DogOnPorch said: Yes...he's a true fan...n'est pas?? Apostate prophet? Is that you? ^^ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DogOnPorch Posted July 18, 2019 Report Share Posted July 18, 2019 1 minute ago, Marocc said: Apostate prophet? Is that you? ^^ Why? Do you need to set him straight with a good beheading? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marocc Posted July 18, 2019 Report Share Posted July 18, 2019 30 minutes ago, Goddess said: It's not. But religiously motivated killing feels worse to most people because it more often involves killing innocent people that the killer doesn't even know and religion can be the catalyst that drives people to kill when they otherwise would not. I doubt that it feels worse to be killed by a motivated person. In fact they might do it faster. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goddess Posted July 18, 2019 Report Share Posted July 18, 2019 13 minutes ago, Marocc said: Tell me one thing that supposedly makes him a radical. Just one thing. A small thing. Just one. DoP can help. Im sure you can come up with something. There's no doubt. It's not hard. He's been banned in Canada. Quote Naik equates music with alcohol and says that both are intoxicating in nature. He has condemned dancing and singing because they are prohibited in Islam. Naik said that guilty people must be punished and accepts chopping hands off for stealing. Naik states that it is permissible to beat one's wife "gently". He argues that "as far as the family is concerned, a man is the leader. So, he has the right", but he should beat his wife "lightly".[31] He also said[87] that Muslims have the right to sex with their female slaves[29][31][88] where he referred to slaves as "prisoners of war". Naik referred to the LGBT community as "patients suffering from sinful mental problems" and said that "It's because they watch pornographic movies. The TV channels are to be blamed".[31] "According to Quran and Sunnah",[90] he recommends the "death penalty" for homosexuals.[90][91] according to Naik, "There is no death penalty for apostates in Islam ... until, the apostate starts to preach his new religion: then he can be put to death." Naik preaches that the dissemination of other religions within an Islamic state must be forbidden RE: Bin Laden - Naik went on to say "If he is fighting enemies of Islam, I am for him. I don't know him personally. If he is terrorizing America, the biggest terrorist, I am with him. Every Muslim should be a terrorist. The thing is that if he is terrorizing a terrorist, he is following Islam." when Naik was asked for his opinion on suicide bombings he replied affirmatively, saying it was permitted in Islam and said "it is haram if innocent people are being killed. But, if suicide bombing is used as a tactic of war, then it may be permitted. He also engages in a lot of double-speak - as you do also. On the one hand saying he condemns terrorism, on the other hand, advocating it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marocc Posted July 18, 2019 Report Share Posted July 18, 2019 3 minutes ago, Goddess said: It's not hard. He's been banned in Canada. He also engages in a lot of double-speak - as you do also. On the one hand saying he condemns terrorism, on the other hand, advocating it. You're gonna have to find something that proves he says it. As a video or a text that is credible in transmitting what he really said. Wikipedia is not a source - not to mention a credible one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DogOnPorch Posted July 18, 2019 Report Share Posted July 18, 2019 The Muslim man orders the women around....that's right! Get used to that bit, ladies. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goddess Posted July 18, 2019 Report Share Posted July 18, 2019 (edited) 19 minutes ago, Marocc said: You're gonna have to find something that proves he says it. As a video or a text that is credible in transmitting what he really said. Wikipedia is not a source - not to mention a credible one. Would it matter to you? He's already your hero. Also, I know his comments about Bin Laden/terrorism are in his youtube videos. I imagine you know this too, as you are a fan, and are just being obtuse about this guy's beliefs. Edited July 18, 2019 by Goddess Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GostHacked Posted July 18, 2019 Report Share Posted July 18, 2019 1 hour ago, Goddess said: The scary part is that even though he is a radical Islamist and banned in a lot of countries, he still has 200 million viewers. Including Marocc, DoP is also a viewer of him. Otherwise, how would DoP know about him? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goddess Posted July 18, 2019 Report Share Posted July 18, 2019 1 minute ago, GostHacked said: Otherwise, how would DoP know about him? Ummmmm,.......because he's been in the news as a radical Islamist who is banned from many countries, including our own? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DogOnPorch Posted July 18, 2019 Report Share Posted July 18, 2019 2 minutes ago, GostHacked said: DoP is also a viewer of him. Otherwise, how would DoP know about him? Using this template, DogOnPorch has been to the Moon...otherwise how would he know that it isn't made of green cheese? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GostHacked Posted July 18, 2019 Report Share Posted July 18, 2019 (edited) 5 minutes ago, Goddess said: Ummmmm,.......because he's been in the news as a radical Islamist who is banned from many countries, including our own? I don't watch him. So this is the first I hear about this person. I guess I am just not as obsessed with Islam as some posters here (for and against) Before I look at DoPs reply I will edit this one..... it will have something like ' you are free to .....' Edited July 18, 2019 by GostHacked Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DogOnPorch Posted July 18, 2019 Report Share Posted July 18, 2019 Just now, GostHacked said: I don't watch him. So this is the first I hear about this person. I guess I am just not as obsessed with Islam as some posters here (for and against) You're free to wallow in your ignorance and claim it's a virtue, as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marocc Posted July 18, 2019 Report Share Posted July 18, 2019 7 minutes ago, Goddess said: Ummmmm,.......because he's been in the news as a radical Islamist who is banned from many countries, including our own? Everything's banned in Canada. https://bigleaguepolitics.com/canada-moves-to-ban-christians-from-demonstrating-in-public-under-new-anti-hate-proposal/ However, do you have a source that says he's banned? All I know he was denied access to preach in.. 2010? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marocc Posted July 18, 2019 Report Share Posted July 18, 2019 7 minutes ago, GostHacked said: I don't watch him. So this is the first I hear about this person. I guess I am just not as obsessed with Islam as some posters here (for and against) Before I look at DoPs reply I will edit this one..... it will have something like ' you are free to .....' "obsessed with Islam", no, you're not, you're ignorant about Islam and ignorant about your ignorance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marocc Posted July 18, 2019 Report Share Posted July 18, 2019 9 minutes ago, DogOnPorch said: Using this template, DogOnPorch has been to the Moon...otherwise how would he know that it isn't made of green cheese? Because you can see from here it isn't green? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marocc Posted July 18, 2019 Report Share Posted July 18, 2019 11 minutes ago, Goddess said: Ummmmm,.......because he's been in the news as a radical Islamist who is banned from many countries, including our own? Actually, did Canada call him a radical? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GostHacked Posted July 18, 2019 Report Share Posted July 18, 2019 3 minutes ago, Marocc said: "obsessed with Islam", no, you're not, you're ignorant about Islam and ignorant about your ignorance. I've never claimed to know everything. There are a lot of things I am ignorant about. But I am too ignorant to know how ignorant I am. (looks back at 15+ years of posting on this board) .. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marocc Posted July 18, 2019 Report Share Posted July 18, 2019 14 minutes ago, GostHacked said: DoP is also a viewer of him. Otherwise, how would DoP know about him? He's heard of him from the apostate prophet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marocc Posted July 18, 2019 Report Share Posted July 18, 2019 58 minutes ago, Goddess said: It's not hard. He's been banned in Canada. He also engages in a lot of double-speak - as you do also. On the one hand saying he condemns terrorism, on the other hand, advocating it. How do I "advocate" terrorism? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marocc Posted July 18, 2019 Report Share Posted July 18, 2019 45 minutes ago, Goddess said: Would it matter to you? He's already your hero. Also, I know his comments about Bin Laden/terrorism are in his youtube videos. I imagine you know this too, as you are a fan, and are just being obtuse about this guy's beliefs. Yes it would matter to me. Whenever you have something. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goddess Posted July 18, 2019 Report Share Posted July 18, 2019 49 minutes ago, Marocc said: Yes it would matter to me. Whenever you have something. As I said, the comments are from his videos - which you have watched - but I don't care to listen to radical Islamists. Sorry. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goddess Posted July 18, 2019 Report Share Posted July 18, 2019 (edited) https://nationalpost.com/news/canada/controversial-muslim-televangelist-zakir-naik-banned-from-toronto-conference Article also confirms his "teachings" as I listed above. http://cjlab.memri.org/uncategorized/islamist-preacher-zakir-naik-barred-from-u-k-and-canada-an-ideological-profile/ Edited July 18, 2019 by Goddess Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dialamah Posted July 18, 2019 Report Share Posted July 18, 2019 1 hour ago, Goddess said: Ummmmm,.......because he's been in the news as a radical Islamist who is banned from many countries, including our own? Never heard of him before today. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goddess Posted July 18, 2019 Report Share Posted July 18, 2019 Just now, dialamah said: Never heard of him before today. Probably because you don't read those kinds of things. I've heard of him quite a few times, usually grouped in with other Islamists who try to recruit through youtube. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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