jbg Posted July 16, 2016 Report Posted July 16, 2016 Hi guys, I would just like to mention that I suck. As you've probably noticed I have been around very little of late as I have been dealing with some personal things. As a result I haven't had much time or inclination to contribute to the forum, and have been completely useless as a forum facilitator. I'm not sure when I'll be ready to be an active contributor and facilitator again, but for right now I won't be very active around here. Sorry for not being around to help out. -k We don't always agree but my "Jewish" prayers are with you. M'Sheberach. Free speech: "You can say what you want, but I don't have to lend you my megaphone." Always remember that when you are in the right you can afford to keep your temper, and when you are in the wrong you cannot afford to lose it. - J.J. Reynolds. Will the steps anyone is proposing to fight "climate change" reduce a single temperature, by a single degree, at a single location? The mantra of "world opinion" or the views of the "international community" betrays flabby and weak reasoning (link).
kimmy Posted July 19, 2016 Report Posted July 19, 2016 Hope things work out soon and you are able to come back. We don't always agree but my "Jewish" prayers are with you. M'Sheberach. -k (╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻ Friendly forum facilitator! ┬──┬◡ﾉ(° -°ﾉ)
DogOnPorch Posted July 19, 2016 Report Posted July 19, 2016 I suppose I must hold the record around here for trips to the Cooler. Many I feel undeserved. Now, I don't use the report button as the Mods can confirm. However, I feel "the button" is used as a weapon by some members. While I may or may not deserve this or that trip to the Cooler...up for debate...surly if I'm getting tossed in the cells, perhaps my opponents also deserve a vacation. It takes TWO (or more) to tango... My last banning was for discussing Iran in the Iran thread...and replying to my opponents. Thirty days. Yes, I'm upset about it. Nothing cracks a turtle like Leon Uris.
GostHacked Posted July 19, 2016 Report Posted July 19, 2016 Yes, I'm upset about it. Then you may want to change your posting tactics. People can post and discuss without being idiots about it. I don't care what is discussed, it is more HOW it is discussed. I've hit that report button on you many times for constantly twisting people's words.
DogOnPorch Posted July 19, 2016 Report Posted July 19, 2016 Then you may want to change your posting tactics. People can post and discuss without being idiots about it. I don't care what is discussed, it is more HOW it is discussed. I've hit that report button on you many times for constantly twisting people's words. Sums you up...and I wasn't asking you. You're part of the problem. Nothing cracks a turtle like Leon Uris.
Smallc Posted July 19, 2016 Report Posted July 19, 2016 Sums you up...and I wasn't asking you. You're part of the problem. And see - that's the problem. If you view every post as a confrontation with a person, you're going to run into problems. I had to learn that.
DogOnPorch Posted July 19, 2016 Report Posted July 19, 2016 Now...correct me if I'm wrong: The mods get 'reports' from members and they take a look. By golly, my post exists. The ban is issued...justice is served. The member who reported continues to post away, merrily. No effort is taken to confirm that the "offending post" is...in fact...out of context, off topic, 'trolling' or whatever. Seriously...that's f----ed. Charles reading all the posts and deciding a rule was broken is one thing...but allowing my opponents to decide? That's madness. Just saying. Nothing cracks a turtle like Leon Uris.
DogOnPorch Posted July 19, 2016 Report Posted July 19, 2016 And see - that's the problem. If you view every post as a confrontation with a person, you're going to run into problems. I had to learn that. I'm here to confront opponents,. Not to get all warm and fuzzy with you or anybody else. Nothing cracks a turtle like Leon Uris.
dialamah Posted July 19, 2016 Report Posted July 19, 2016 Now...correct me if I'm wrong: The mods get 'reports' from members and they take a look. By golly, my post exists. The ban is issued...justice is served. The member who reported continues to post away, merrily. No effort is taken to confirm that the "offending post" is...in fact...out of context, off topic, 'trolling' or whatever. Some people have said that they report posts, and nothing is done about it. From that I infer that the mods don't ban unless they AGREE with the reporter that the post in question oversteps some line. Thus, it would seem that at least two people regularly agree that your posts and/or posting style needs some work. Perhaps something for you to think about, or not.
DogOnPorch Posted July 19, 2016 Report Posted July 19, 2016 Some people have said that they report posts, and nothing is done about it. From that I infer that the mods don't ban unless they AGREE with the reporter that the post in question oversteps some line. Thus, it would seem that at least two people regularly agree that your posts and/or posting style needs some work. Perhaps something for you to think about, or not. I've been posting here for YEARS more than YOU. This is a fairly recent development...using the report button rather than addressing the contents of my posts. Nothing cracks a turtle like Leon Uris.
dialamah Posted July 19, 2016 Report Posted July 19, 2016 I've been posting here for YEARS more than YOU. And this is relevant, why? This is a fairly recent development...using the report button rather than addressing the contents of my posts. As per recent moderator instruction that rather than respond to trolling, members should report and ignore them. My point still stands, but you are certainly free to continue on as you have.
DogOnPorch Posted July 19, 2016 Report Posted July 19, 2016 And this is relevant, why? As per recent moderator instruction that rather than respond to trolling, members should report and ignore them. My point still stands, but you are certainly free to continue on as you have. I post the way I always have. I don't conduct personal attacks and use history to confront stupid claims made by you and others. Perhaps YOU should think hard about trying to ban other people for not agreeing with you. Nothing cracks a turtle like Leon Uris.
Charles Anthony Posted July 19, 2016 Report Posted July 19, 2016 No effort is taken to confirm that the "offending post" is...in fact...out of context, off topic, 'trolling' or whatever.Incorrect. We do not have time for a meeting of the flat earth society. << Où sont mes amis ? Ils sont ici, ils sont ici... >>
DogOnPorch Posted July 19, 2016 Report Posted July 19, 2016 Incorrect. Fair enough. Why am I the only one to see the Cooler out of these exchanges? I can't help but notice my opponents keep going. Is it simply because I don't rat them out to you with the report button? Nothing cracks a turtle like Leon Uris.
dialamah Posted July 19, 2016 Report Posted July 19, 2016 (edited) I post the way I always have. I don't conduct personal attacks and use history to confront stupid claims made by you and others. Perhaps YOU should think hard about trying to ban other people for not agreeing with you. Now, you've made an incorrect assumption; I don't use the report button, either. I prefer to let people have their say, and continue to prove how idiotic they are. Edited July 19, 2016 by dialamah
DogOnPorch Posted July 19, 2016 Report Posted July 19, 2016 Now, you've made an incorrect assumption; I don't use the report button, either. I prefer to let people have their say, and continue to prove how idiotic they are. Good for you if true. I find the report button to be rather open to abuse, obviously. Those that do not use the report button against their opponents seem to be at a distinct disadvantage....especially with a fellow like myself who publicly states he NEVER uses it. Nothing cracks a turtle like Leon Uris.
dialamah Posted July 19, 2016 Report Posted July 19, 2016 (edited) Good for you if true. I find the report button to be rather open to abuse, obviously. Those that do not use the report button against their opponents seem to be at a distinct disadvantage....especially with a fellow like myself who publicly states he NEVER uses it. Thus far, I've not been suspended and I've publicly stated in the past that I don't use the report button and so far, I haven't noticed any disadvantage. Probably getting suspended really does have something to do with the way in which one presents their arguments. That's my guess, anyway. Edited July 19, 2016 by dialamah
DogOnPorch Posted July 19, 2016 Report Posted July 19, 2016 (edited) You don't have fellows like me reporting you for every post as a few members already have admitted doing to me. The first step is admitting there is a problem. If posters are REALLY being naughty....all should be banned. Including the tattletale/rat in most cases. Use that button carefully.... I've been in the Cooler 26 times for rather dubious reasons as far as I can see...At least if my opponents...equally "guilty"...went to the Cooler with me, I'd accept justice has been done. Edited July 19, 2016 by DogOnPorch Nothing cracks a turtle like Leon Uris.
DogOnPorch Posted July 19, 2016 Report Posted July 19, 2016 26 times adds up to about 2 years banned...in the Cooler. I'm patient...obviously. Nothing cracks a turtle like Leon Uris.
Argus Posted July 19, 2016 Author Report Posted July 19, 2016 Fair enough. Why am I the only one to see the Cooler out of these exchanges? I can't help but notice my opponents keep going. Is it simply because I don't rat them out to you with the report button? You can tell from the righteous indignation on so many of the people here on the Left side of the political spectrum that they are outraged whenever anyone questions them. I would be quite surprised if, hacking into the report software, it didn't emerge that those outraged people are far and away more likely to report the slightest transgression of those on the Right than is the reverse. I know I never used to report people, except spammers, until I realized this. "A liberal is someone who claims to be open to all points of view — and then is surprised and offended to find there are other points of view.” William F Buckley
DogOnPorch Posted July 19, 2016 Report Posted July 19, 2016 You can tell from the righteous indignation on so many of the people here on the Left side of the political spectrum that they are outraged whenever anyone questions them. I would be quite surprised if, hacking into the report software, it didn't emerge that those outraged people are far and away more likely to report the slightest transgression of those on the Right than is the reverse. I know I never used to report people, except spammers, until I realized this. I think if Charles adopts a policy of of giving ALL parties involved in these altercations a 'much needed vacation' to the Cooler...including the reporter in 90% of the cases...he would see a dramatic drop in its use. Dramatic....... And I'm sorry to be so dramatic. But, I had to speak out. Nothing cracks a turtle like Leon Uris.
Big Guy Posted July 19, 2016 Report Posted July 19, 2016 I'm here to confront opponents,. Not to get all warm and fuzzy with you or anybody else. Why would you use your valuable free time to confront others - others who you consider to be enemies, are anonymous and are creating any virtual personality they wish? How does that enrich your life? As to warnings and suspensions, it would be interesting if under your avatar, it was posted the number of warnings, suspensions you have been assigned and number of reports that you have made. I would be interested to see which members insult and then run to the mods for protection. I suspect that we already know but it would be interesting to have those suspicions validated. Note - For those expecting a response from Big Guy: I generally do not read or respond to posts longer then 300 words nor to parsed comments.
DogOnPorch Posted July 19, 2016 Report Posted July 19, 2016 Well I'm 26 times in and zero reports other than a query as to a death threat made against me and my family long ago by a member long since removed. Nothing cracks a turtle like Leon Uris.
Big Guy Posted July 19, 2016 Report Posted July 19, 2016 I think if Charles adopts a policy of of giving ALL parties involved in these altercations a 'much needed vacation' to the Cooler...including the reporter in 90% of the cases...he would see a dramatic drop in its use. Dramatic....... And I'm sorry to be so dramatic. But, I had to speak out. Interesting concept. I suggest that we would see a process not unlike in hockey where the "goons" serve their purpose by picking a fight with the stars of the other team and take them both off the ice. I could see establishing establishing two or three avatars - one serious one and a couple to be sacrificed to take out an opponent! Note - For those expecting a response from Big Guy: I generally do not read or respond to posts longer then 300 words nor to parsed comments.
DogOnPorch Posted July 19, 2016 Report Posted July 19, 2016 Interesting concept. I suggest that we would see a process not unlike in hockey where the "goons" serve their purpose by picking a fight with the stars of the other team and take them both off the ice. I could see establishing establishing two or three avatars - one serious one and a couple to be sacrificed to take out an opponent! It would make no difference to Charles. Ban the works. After 30 days, let's see who reports who. Nothing cracks a turtle like Leon Uris.
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