On Guard for Thee Posted February 16, 2015 Report Posted February 16, 2015 Obama is a President who sticks his thumb in the eye of friends, while adhering to, and giving aid and comfort to the enemies of the U.S. and the West. I guess thats what he is doing by bombing ISIS eh. I suppose your so called thumb in the eye is the veto of the XL pipeline. The US is awash in oil so they dont need the XL. So both your arguments seem rather weak. Quote
jbg Posted February 16, 2015 Report Posted February 16, 2015 I guess thats what he is doing by bombing ISIS eh. I suppose your so called thumb in the eye is the veto of the XL pipeline. The US is awash in oil so they dont need the XL. So both your arguments seem rather weak.I am strongly pro-XL. Canada is an ally and should be treated as such; not as garbage. Quote Free speech: "You can say what you want, but I don't have to lend you my megaphone." Always remember that when you are in the right you can afford to keep your temper, and when you are in the wrong you cannot afford to lose it. - J.J. Reynolds. Will the steps anyone is proposing to fight "climate change" reduce a single temperature, by a single degree, at a single location? The mantra of "world opinion" or the views of the "international community" betrays flabby and weak reasoning (link).
On Guard for Thee Posted February 16, 2015 Report Posted February 16, 2015 I am strongly pro-XL. Canada is an ally and should be treated as such; not as garbage. You can be pro XL as you like. To say Obama not wanting it is treating Caada like garbage is just more nonsense. Quote
jbg Posted February 16, 2015 Report Posted February 16, 2015 ...nonsense.You have a great sense of humor. I admire that. Quote Free speech: "You can say what you want, but I don't have to lend you my megaphone." Always remember that when you are in the right you can afford to keep your temper, and when you are in the wrong you cannot afford to lose it. - J.J. Reynolds. Will the steps anyone is proposing to fight "climate change" reduce a single temperature, by a single degree, at a single location? The mantra of "world opinion" or the views of the "international community" betrays flabby and weak reasoning (link).
On Guard for Thee Posted February 16, 2015 Report Posted February 16, 2015 You have a great sense of humor. I admire that. Just lucky I guess. Quote
bush_cheney2004 Posted November 5, 2015 Report Posted November 5, 2015 (edited) Trans Canada solicited another big fat "NO" from the U.S. State Department, which will not delay its review decision about permitting the Keystone XL pipeline to cross the U.S. border. Trans Canada sought a delay to reportedly settle right-of-way issues in Nebraska, but it was probably a stalling tactic to get a better chance with a new president. I expect President Obama's administration to grandstand the final Keystone XL pipeline "NO" decision at COP21 in Paris. Is this PM Trudeau's first foreign policy failure ? Edited November 5, 2015 by bush_cheney2004 Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
eyeball Posted November 5, 2015 Report Posted November 5, 2015 One day they'll be saying that Trudeau is who caused oil prices to collapse. Quote A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding.
bush_cheney2004 Posted November 5, 2015 Report Posted November 5, 2015 One day they'll be saying that Trudeau is who caused oil prices to collapse. Maybe it's part of NEP version 2.0....a Trudeau legacy still loved to this day in Alberta. Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
overthere Posted November 5, 2015 Report Posted November 5, 2015 I have to admit that the environmentalists have done a great job of a) shutting down the energy sector in Canada by choking off all markets except the one that pays the worst(the US) and convincing our people and own governments that this is somehow in our interest, to not build any infrastructure at all,to get this crucial part of our economy to markets. Maybe it's part of NEP version 2.0....a Trudeau legacy still loved to this day in Alberta.This will become more apparent every day. The budget will balance itself. Quote Science too hard for you? Try religion!
Big Guy Posted November 6, 2015 Report Posted November 6, 2015 (edited) Obama has just killed the Keystone pipline. TransCanada shares down 5% and dropping. Time to look at building refineries in Canada. Edited November 6, 2015 by Big Guy Quote Note - For those expecting a response from Big Guy: I generally do not read or respond to posts longer then 300 words nor to parsed comments.
PIK Posted November 6, 2015 Report Posted November 6, 2015 Dead till the repubs take over. Funny how Obama put in 8000 mile of pipe line but this one was evil. Go figure. Quote Toronto, like a roach motel in the middle of a pretty living room.
Argus Posted November 6, 2015 Report Posted November 6, 2015 So Obama has finally shuffled up to the microphone and said he won't allow the Keystone pipeline. "I'm paid way too much money by the environmental lobby to approve this, folks" he said, or should have said. The US has built 12,000 miles of pipelines in the last five years, but somehow, this one was different. Except it wasn't any different. The real attack here is on the Canadian oil industry, not on the pipeline. The US which still uses massive quantities of coal, is allowing its environmentalists to push their agenda on Canada instead. The US still imports millions of barrels of oil every day, and it will still wind up getting massive amounts from Canada through existing pipelines as well as through huge trainloads crossing the border every day. But hopefully this gives new impetus for us to push through pipelines to the coasts to find more honest customers. I also can't help hoping that the fracking this is as short-lived as some have estimated, and that some day, perhaps ten years from now, Americans will be lining up for gas while our oil is shipped to China. http://www.theglobeandmail.com/report-on-business/industry-news/energy-and-resources/obama-to-reject-transcanadas-keystone-xl-pipeline-source-says/article27144973/ Quote "A liberal is someone who claims to be open to all points of view — and then is surprised and offended to find there are other points of view.” William F Buckley
bush_cheney2004 Posted November 6, 2015 Report Posted November 6, 2015 (edited) Looks like PM Trudeau picked up right where PM Harper left off....now he has his first foreign policy failure. Recommend moving this to the existing Keystone XL topic under Canada - U.S. Relations. Edited November 6, 2015 by bush_cheney2004 Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
bush_cheney2004 Posted November 6, 2015 Report Posted November 6, 2015 Maybe Canada will start building some pipelines in country...refineries too. The U.S. builds pipelines for lunch...why can't Canada ? Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
Black Dog Posted November 6, 2015 Report Posted November 6, 2015 Only a moron would lay this on a Canadian PM who has been in office for two days. And look! One did! Quote
bush_cheney2004 Posted November 6, 2015 Report Posted November 6, 2015 Total Trudeau FAILURE....supported Keystone XL for political purposes during the campaign only to get officially rejected by President Obama on his watch. This payback for Canada's rejection of missile defense (also by a Liberal goverment) is delicious. Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
BC_chick Posted November 6, 2015 Report Posted November 6, 2015 So in other words, it's extortion. Quote It's kind of the worst thing that any humans could be doing at this time in human history. Other than that, it's fine." Bill Nye on Alberta Oil Sands
bush_cheney2004 Posted November 6, 2015 Report Posted November 6, 2015 So in other words, it's extortion. Yes, but it's mostly foreign money at stake anyway. 70% of Canadian oil/bitumen production is foreign owned. Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
BC_chick Posted November 6, 2015 Report Posted November 6, 2015 Yes, but... There is no but. It's extortion. Quote It's kind of the worst thing that any humans could be doing at this time in human history. Other than that, it's fine." Bill Nye on Alberta Oil Sands
bush_cheney2004 Posted November 6, 2015 Report Posted November 6, 2015 I love it...the NDP kicks 'em while they are down: NDP House Leader Peter Julian welcomed the decision and urged Trudeau to ensure a "rigorous" environmental assessment process for other projects. "The Keystone XL pipeline would have shipped quality, middle-class Canadian jobs across the border. It was a bad deal for Canadians, bad for both the environment and the economy. Conservatives and Liberals lobbied hard for Keystone XL, but President Barack Obama is standing with progressives across North America by rejecting it." http://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/canada-keystone-pipeline-trudeau-obama-1.3307458 Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
bush_cheney2004 Posted November 6, 2015 Report Posted November 6, 2015 There is no but. It's extortion. So ? Build your own pipelines for chrissakes ! Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
bush_cheney2004 Posted November 6, 2015 Report Posted November 6, 2015 President Obama is showing the strong "progressive" leadership that Canada lacks in Ottawa because of Canadian voters. How ironic ! Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
Argus Posted November 6, 2015 Report Posted November 6, 2015 President Obama is showing the strong "progressive" leadership that Canada lacks in Ottawa because of Canadian voters. How ironic ! If by that you mean he's being a political whore with no interest in truth or facts then I suppose you're correct. Quote "A liberal is someone who claims to be open to all points of view — and then is surprised and offended to find there are other points of view.” William F Buckley
bush_cheney2004 Posted November 6, 2015 Report Posted November 6, 2015 If by that you mean he's being a political whore with no interest in truth or facts then I suppose you're correct. Of course I'm correct....welcome to the real world PM Trudeau. President Obama purposely waited to reject Keystone XL until after Trudeau entered office. Who's your Daddy, Justin ? Enjoy those CF-188s coming home soon ! Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
Argus Posted November 6, 2015 Report Posted November 6, 2015 Of course I'm correct....welcome to the real world PM Trudeau. President Obama purposely waited to reject Keystone XL until after Trudeau entered office. Who's your Daddy, Justin ? Enjoy those CF-188s coming home soon ! I'm wondering if someone will find Harper and ask him about the decision, now that he's free to speak his mind unhindered by any worries about being diplomatic... I'd really love to hear his unvarnished opinions of Obama on this issue. Quote "A liberal is someone who claims to be open to all points of view — and then is surprised and offended to find there are other points of view.” William F Buckley
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