jbg Posted November 8, 2015 Report Posted November 8, 2015 Are there really any fourth world nations anymore? You underestimate the power of our neoprogressive education system and media. All the movies with scary ominous music as ice caps melt in the summer, to poor baby seals looking sad, to children being taught about how to be activists to advance the cause of 'Climate Justice', etc. Some change their minds when they get their drivers' license and start working a job and seeing the tax withholding line. Quote Free speech: "You can say what you want, but I don't have to lend you my megaphone." Always remember that when you are in the right you can afford to keep your temper, and when you are in the wrong you cannot afford to lose it. - J.J. Reynolds. Will the steps anyone is proposing to fight "climate change" reduce a single temperature, by a single degree, at a single location? The mantra of "world opinion" or the views of the "international community" betrays flabby and weak reasoning (link).
-1=e^ipi Posted November 8, 2015 Report Posted November 8, 2015 Some change their minds when they get their drivers' license and start working a job and seeing the tax withholding line. I'm not that optimistic. Also, the young people trying to enter the work force today have been indoctrinated with alarmist propaganda since they entered school, this didn't occur with previous generations. Quote
Argus Posted November 8, 2015 Report Posted November 8, 2015 Why would Canadians think there is some sort of "right" for a pipeline to go from Canada to the USA. That's for the USA to decide. US refineries want our oil. Where is the need for government to step in to stop it? Thousands of miles of pipelines are built across the US every year. Why was this one blocked? Quote "A liberal is someone who claims to be open to all points of view — and then is surprised and offended to find there are other points of view.” William F Buckley
Argus Posted November 8, 2015 Report Posted November 8, 2015 Well, we could always ask them to account for the money... Hahahahahahaha Just kidding. I know we would never do that. Trudeau doesn't even want our own native chiefs to be accountable for the money given them. He's vowed to reverse the clarity act which required disclosure. Quote "A liberal is someone who claims to be open to all points of view — and then is surprised and offended to find there are other points of view.” William F Buckley
bush_cheney2004 Posted November 9, 2015 Report Posted November 9, 2015 (edited) US refineries want our oil. Where is the need for government to step in to stop it? Thousands of miles of pipelines are built across the US every year. Why was this one blocked? For the same reasons that pipelines are blocked in Canada. Why would pipeline opponents support that which Canada will not even build itself (East and West) ? Edited November 9, 2015 by bush_cheney2004 Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
eyeball Posted November 9, 2015 Report Posted November 9, 2015 (edited) For the same reasons that pipelines are blocked in Canada. Why would pipeline opponents support that which Canada will not even build itself (East and West) ? I wouldn't be surprised if a lot came from people who've been content to let eastern bastards freeze and could care less about any national policy that might relax that attitude. Edited November 9, 2015 by eyeball Quote A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding.
bush_cheney2004 Posted November 9, 2015 Report Posted November 9, 2015 I wouldn't be surprised if a lot came from people who've been content to let eastern bastards freeze and could care less about any national policy that might relax that attitude. You would know better than I. The USA builds pipelines all the time...don't know what the problem is in Canada except that it just can't seem to get done for any number of reasons/excuses. Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
jbg Posted November 9, 2015 Report Posted November 9, 2015 I'm not that optimistic. Also, the young people trying to enter the work force today have been indoctrinated with alarmist propaganda since they entered school, this didn't occur with previous generations. My generation was heavily indoctrinated on two things: 1) Nuclear war, i.e. “duck and cover”; and 2) non-smoking. I got over the first one, which was designed to encourage dovish foreign policies. On the second I still havcen’t smoked a tobacco (as opposed to marijuana) cigarette to this day. US refineries want our oil. Where is the need for government to step in to stop it? Thousands of miles of pipelines are built across the US every year. Why was this one blocked?For the same reasons that pipelines are blocked in Canada. Why would pipeline opponents support that which Canada will not even build itself (East and West) ? East-West makes little sense if NL is now producing oil. Quote Free speech: "You can say what you want, but I don't have to lend you my megaphone." Always remember that when you are in the right you can afford to keep your temper, and when you are in the wrong you cannot afford to lose it. - J.J. Reynolds. Will the steps anyone is proposing to fight "climate change" reduce a single temperature, by a single degree, at a single location? The mantra of "world opinion" or the views of the "international community" betrays flabby and weak reasoning (link).
-1=e^ipi Posted November 9, 2015 Report Posted November 9, 2015 My generation was heavily indoctrinated on two things: 1) Nuclear war, i.e. “duck and cover” And look how it's affected our foreign policy with Russia. All our politicians have this cold-war mentality which has resulted in us funding 'moderate rebels' to engage in a proxy war with Russia over Syria, reduced our cooperation with Russia to fight ISIS, and has resulted in unnecessary polarization in Ukraine, which contributed to the civil war. Quote
Argus Posted November 10, 2015 Report Posted November 10, 2015 And look how it's affected our foreign policy with Russia. You don't think maybe our foreign policy with Russia is more affected by that country being run by a murderous mafia group which kills anyone who gets in their way and invades other countries? Maybe? Quote "A liberal is someone who claims to be open to all points of view — and then is surprised and offended to find there are other points of view.” William F Buckley
overthere Posted November 10, 2015 Report Posted November 10, 2015 Next one up: Enbridge has had an application to increase capacity on the existing Alberta Clipper oil pipeline between Canada and the US since 2013. The Clipper (also called Line 67) is a big one, but was only built in 2010, when it was deemed to be in the national interests of America. The applciation has been pending since 2013. Waiting for Obama. He sure is a slow thinker. Quote Science too hard for you? Try religion!
-1=e^ipi Posted November 10, 2015 Report Posted November 10, 2015 You don't think maybe our foreign policy with Russia is more affected by that country being run by a murderous mafia group No, no I don't. It is primarily due to a cold war mentality. Also, mass confirmation bias in our society doesn't help. invades other countries? Maybe? Who did Russia invade? They have permission from the Syrian government and the Crimeans voted in a referendum to join Russia. Quote
eyeball Posted November 10, 2015 Report Posted November 10, 2015 I notice Russia didn't feel any need to resort to cartoon evidence to justify and sell their military adventures abroad. Quote A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding.
Argus Posted November 11, 2015 Report Posted November 11, 2015 No, no I don't. It is primarily due to a cold war mentality. Also, mass confirmation bias in our society doesn't help. I seem to recall that our attitude towards Russia softened considerably before Vlad the Impaler took over and started turning the country into an vicious kleptocracy. Who did Russia invade? So far? Georgia and Ukraine. They have permission from the Syrian government and the Crimeans voted in a referendum to join Russia. I held seventeen more referendums in Crimea and the Crimeans voted 99% against having Russia invade and take over. And my seventeen referendums have every bit as much legitimacy as the one the FSB held. Quote "A liberal is someone who claims to be open to all points of view — and then is surprised and offended to find there are other points of view.” William F Buckley
overthere Posted November 12, 2015 Report Posted November 12, 2015 So far? Georgia and Ukraine.let us not forget Chechyna, where Putin has installed a franchised kleptocracy. Oh, a few of the 'Stans know they are a heartbeat away from rejoining the new USSR, like it or not here we come! Quote Science too hard for you? Try religion!
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