Beer

[Michael Hardner]

"Best Beer" means nothing just as "Best Car" "Best woman" etc.

The best car is the slightly used Dodge Caravan.  The best woman is my wife.  The best beer is the cheapest.

 

[impartialobserver]

13 hours ago, OftenWrong said:

California, eh? Well, I don't know about that place. And I been there thrice. The way you worded that makes it sound like they make the best beer in America. Solid stuff? Generally beers are either lagers or ales. Then ya got yer malt liquors, which are also might fine, might fine.

Here's me enjoying a BA Johnson from Sawdust City.

Its all subjective and everyone has their own tastes and preferences. Have been to 25 or so breweries 12 states (Idaho, Montana, Wyoming, Nevada, Utah, California, Oregon, Washington, Colorado, Minnesota, New York, and Missouri). My preference is for the stronger ales (9.0% ABV or greater and at least 70 IBU). However, have developed a taste for the German varietals lately such as Dunkelweizen, Bock, Maibock, Oktoberfest, etc. What separates one from another is their ability to make more than one style and does their product not have the stale almond flavor in the back. When brewers get lazy and either do not clean their equipment or crank up the yeast.. that is when you get the off taste. Anyways, that is my 2 cents. 

[OftenWrong]

13 hours ago, Michael Hardner said:

The best beer is the cheapest.

I always thought you were a complete philistine. 

Now I know...

 

[Dougie93]

13 hours ago, OftenWrong said:

I always thought you were a complete philistine. 

Now I know...

 

best beer for the money is Dortmunder Actien Brauerei ( DAB ) Export

a fine German Pilsner style laager, $2.75 for tallboy at the LCBO, which is cheap by today's prices

[Iceni warrior]

Woodforde's Wherry.

Brewed on the Norfolk Broads and named after the iconic sailing barge.

My favourite draught ale.

[impartialobserver]

It is too bad that more Canadian micro brews do not find their way into the US. Had one from Torque Brewing in Manitoba once and it was fabulous. Had it when I was in Minneapolis and apparently it was illegal to sell it so the guy gave it to me for free

 

[exPS]

I drink LEZAJSK, a lager from Poland.

And always in bottles till they unfortunately switched to cans mid-summer of 2023. Not the same taste even if you pour it into a stein.

Of course I am in Europe often, so I know good beer. Local beers only if I am desperate.

[Dougie93]

 

there is a new value pick at the LCBO

Amsterdam Blonde Lager

in 568ml super tallboys

[Iceni warrior]

15 hours ago, Dougie93 said:

 

there is a new value pick at the LCBO

Amsterdam Blonde Lager

in 568ml super tallboys

AKA 1 pint.

[Dougie93]

1 hour ago, Iceni warrior said:

AKA 1 pint.

1 US pint is only 473 ml

tallboys usually come in either 473ml or 500ml at the LCBO

568ml is 20% larger than the previously tallest tallboy

making Amsterdam the lowest price by volume at the LCBO, even tho it's an excellent Dutch Blonde Lager

hence the value pick designation

[Iceni warrior]

4 hours ago, Dougie93 said:

1 US pint is only 473 ml

tallboys usually come in either 473ml or 500ml at the LCBO

568ml is 20% larger than the previously tallest tallboy

making Amsterdam the lowest price by volume at the LCBO, even tho it's an excellent Dutch Blonde Lager

hence the value pick designation

They told me everything was bigger in America.

Yet the gallons are a litre short!

 

 

[herbie]

The best beer will be something else next week. Guaranteed.

The big brewers will continue to buy out your favourite craft beer and turn it into shit.

[impartialobserver]

The craft brew industry has reached its apex. The true microbreweries that are not owned by larger companies are becoming fewer. They still do exist.. just not as numerous as in the past. 

[exPS]

I used to drink local beers but ever since going to Europe many years ago, I started drinking imported beer and always in glass bottles. None of this aluminum can BS. The best parts is, when doing the math, the 500 ml bottles of European beer are no more expensive for what I call real beer.

I love the term "craft beer" that North America invented. In Europe, they just call it "beer".  😝

Edited May 28, 2024 by exPS
Typo

[exPS]

I recently got back from Europe a while ago. Imagine that, a case of 20 x 500ml bottles of great beer for €9.49 or about $15. What am I paying here? $57, nearly 4 times as much. You'd think with all that tax money, we would not be in debt. LOL

[herbie]

Used to have a brewery called Uncle Ben's. They made a terrible beer called Old Blue with an ox on the label. When the brewery went under they sent truckloads of it to the docks and we bought like 200 dozen for $1.25 a dozen. No deposit collected.
It was so bad, you only opened it when your drank 4 decent beers and your taste buds were done for. In spite of it being awful, ya never knew how many 'friends' popped by that summer until it was gone.

Funny thing was they boosted the deposit over the summer and we got back 65c a dozen for the empties. (we were young then and stuffed ourselves into our old Boy Scout uniforms to get the extra nickel a dozen). So the beers worked out to a nickel per stubby in the end, about what it was worth.

The brewery still runs under a different name and makes quite a selection of awful beers.

[impartialobserver]

On 7/4/2024 at 2:14 PM, herbie said:

Used to have a brewery called Uncle Ben's. They made a terrible beer called Old Blue with an ox on the label. When the brewery went under they sent truckloads of it to the docks and we bought like 200 dozen for $1.25 a dozen. No deposit collected.
It was so bad, you only opened it when your drank 4 decent beers and your taste buds were done for. In spite of it being awful, ya never knew how many 'friends' popped by that summer until it was gone.

Funny thing was they boosted the deposit over the summer and we got back 65c a dozen for the empties. (we were young then and stuffed ourselves into our old Boy Scout uniforms to get the extra nickel a dozen). So the beers worked out to a nickel per stubby in the end, about what it was worth.

The brewery still runs under a different name and makes quite a selection of awful beers.

What was so awful about it?

 

[herbie]

Ya know after all these years I don't remember.... just that Carling Black Label, Labatts Blue and any other mainstream beer of the times were much much better.
That the whole outfit went under means few liked their beers. All the decent small outfits back then got bought out by Carling, Molson or Labatts but not them.

I'm no longer a beer aficionado after 20 years married to a closet alcoholic, I still cringe at the sound of a can of beer being opened. Just try the featured on tap when I hit the pub for fish & chips/

[impartialobserver]

On 7/10/2024 at 2:40 PM, herbie said:

Ya know after all these years I don't remember.... just that Carling Black Label, Labatts Blue and any other mainstream beer of the times were much much better.
That the whole outfit went under means few liked their beers. All the decent small outfits back then got bought out by Carling, Molson or Labatts but not them.

I'm no longer a beer aficionado after 20 years married to a closet alcoholic, I still cringe at the sound of a can of beer being opened. Just try the featured on tap when I hit the pub for fish & chips/

That's fine. The craft brew industry was on fire from 2000 to roughly 2019. Yes, it was hit hard by Covid but the growth in the industry hit the high point in early 2019 and by May 2020, had early seen declines in employment, totalwages, and number of establishments. This is QCEW data if you care to verify. The reason for the decline was simple... only so many middle aged, middle class white guys out there.