Law and Order in America

[Icebound]

Here is an. Interesting body-cam video

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2015/06/03/1390285/-Shocking-new-video-shows-unarmed-Utah-man-was-listening-to-headphones-when-killed-by-police

The video is near bottom of the page....

The district attorney ruled the killing justified. Moral:... Do not listen to music on earphones in public, it could be fatal.

[kimmy]

So apparently they're saying that when he turns around (at around 35 seconds into the video) the officer was justified in believing that Dillon was attempting to take a weapon out of his pocket, and therefore the shooting was self defense.

huh.

-k

[eyeball]

If that was my kid....I'd probably need to be restrained from going on a cop killing spree.

Edited June 7, 2015 by eyeball

[bush_cheney2004]

Anybody with common sense knows that the cop wants to see your hands at all times...no reaching for anything.

"Cop killing spree" is just drama, and not very good drama at that.

[On Guard for Thee]

Anybody with common sense knows that the cop wants to see your hands at all times...no reaching for anything.

"Cop killing spree" is just drama, and not very good drama at that.

What about when they ask to see your drivers license and the shoot you when you reach for it. I know you are trying hard...but

[On Guard for Thee]

Here we go....again.

http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2015/jun/07/youtube-texas-police-officer-pool-party-arrests

[Michael Hardner]

Here we go....again.

OGFT - please try to add a little more context. We recently had Charles rename a thread that was vaguely called "it begins" - just try to add a word or two to help out readers who are coming to this for the first time, thanks.

[cybercoma]

Anybody with common sense knows that the cop wants to see your hands at all times...no reaching for anything.

"Cop killing spree" is just drama, and not very good drama at that.

Anybody with common sense knows that cops shooting people indiscriminately is a problem.

[Argus]

Anybody with common sense knows that the cop wants to see your hands at all times...no reaching for anything.

"Cop killing spree" is just drama, and not very good drama at that.

Anybody with common sense should know that while it's okay to give cops permission to shoot people who draw guns on them it make little sense to give cops permission to shoot people who they think might possibly have a weapon and might possibly have the intent to draw on them at some point in time...

[On Guard for Thee]

Here is an. Interesting body-cam video

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2015/06/03/1390285/-Shocking-new-video-shows-unarmed-Utah-man-was-listening-to-headphones-when-killed-by-police

The video is near bottom of the page....

The district attorney ruled the killing justified. Moral:... Do not listen to music on earphones in public, it could be fatal.

That kid was murdered, plain and simple. Im sure the cop was wishing he didn't have the bodycam so he could have planted a weapon on him..But then maybe he was friends with the DA

[Hal 9000]

Here we go....again.

http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2015/jun/07/youtube-texas-police-officer-pool-party-arrests

First off, the cop in question was way too intense for the situation. Secondly, what with these people always getting in the cop's faces? That girl was told to leave a number of times and just kept pushing and pushing. For a race of people that claim to be afraid of police, they sure seem fine with calling them names and not listening. Third, if I had a bunch of youths surround me like that cop faced, I'd pull my weapon too.

[Bryan]

If that was my kid....I'd probably need to be restrained from going on a cop killing spree.

If that was my kid, I absolutely would kill that cop. As long as it took for me to corner him alone I would stalk him and take him down.

[Hal 9000]

If that was my kid, I absolutely would kill that cop. As long as it took for me to corner him alone I would stalk him and take him down.

But what would you say to your 14 YO daughter about agitating a police officer?

[cybercoma]

"Agitating" a police officer.

[Bryan]

But what would you say to your 14 YO daughter about agitating a police officer?

"Agitating"?

The kid is dead. The cop murdered him in cold blood with no provocation.

[Hal 9000]

"Agitating"?

The kid is dead. The cop murdered him in cold blood with no provocation.

Talking about 2 different situations - my bad. As far as the one you're referring, I agree.

Edited June 9, 2015 by Hal 9000

[Bryan]

Talking about 2 different situations - my bad.

The other one? The cop's behaviour is unacceptable too, just to a much lesser degree. If he gets fired, that would suffice for me.

[kimmy]

This incident is the latest flash-point:

“It was a senseless, asinine shooting,” Mr. Deters said at a news conference, using stark terms to denounce the July 19 episode, Officer Tensing’s claims about it and the officer himself. “This office has probably reviewed upwards of 100 police shootings, and this is the first time we’ve thought, ‘This is without question a murder.’ ”

-k

Edited July 30, 2015 by kimmy

[kimmy]

The Ferguson man who was curb-stomped by a group of police while handcuffed on the floor of a cell has won the right to sue, following the successful appeal of a lower court ruling.

http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2015/07/29/ferguson-prisoner-beaten-by-cops-has-won-his-appeal.html

Henry Davis is the guy who was charged with destroying public property because his blood got all over the cops' uniforms while they were stomping his face in.

-k

[Black Dog]

There's been some more trouble in Ferguson on the anniversary of the Michael Brown shooting. Cops shot a young man during a set of protests after he (police say) shot at them. The super SMRT police union also chose that day to declare "Darren Wilson Day". Then during the hubub a bunch of heavily-armed white dudes showed up at the protests to just....hang out? Which makes one wonder what would happen if a bunch of black dudes turned up openly carrying semi-automatic weapons and handguns. Just kidding! This is what happens when cops think black dudes are armed:

On Monday night, a group of at least three black men who were standing by a car next to a hair salon on West Florissant Avenue were arrested after a phalanx of St Louis County police surged towards them, using pepper spray and batons. A spokesman for the police department told the Guardian by email on Tuesday that officers had received information “that the occupants or folks near that vehicle were possibly armed with handguns”.

But the spokesman later confirmed that none of those arrested during the swoop were in possession of any weapons.

[Big Guy]

There are consequences when a law officer hestitates in the performance of his duties;

http://www.cnn.com/2015/08/13/us/alabama-birmingham-police-detective-pistol-whipped/index.html

When is waiting too long?

[kimmy]

Allegations that the Chicago cops destroyed evidence in the shooting of that guy:

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/breaking/ct-chicago-cop-shooting-laquan-mcdonald-met-20151127-story.html

The officers stayed on the scene until almost midnight and even brought in their own information technology specialist when it appeared they were having trouble operating the system, Darshane said.

The equipment had been in perfect working order for weeks before the shooting, Darshane said. But the next morning, Burger King discovered the 86-minute gap when investigators with the Independent Police Review Authority, which investigates police shootings, sought to make a DVD copy of the surveillance video. Missing was any footage from 9:13 p.m. to 10:39 p.m., Darshane said.

When the video system kicked back on, it recorded two police officers in the Burger King office who appeared to be looking at something on the monitor over and over, according to Michael Robbins, an attorney representing McDonald's family.

"It is curious," Robbins said. "If they got there and turned it on and found that there was no video, what were they looking at for two hours?"

-k