Topaz Posted March 13, 2013 Report Posted March 13, 2013 Reports say Garneau will announce this AM that he is quitting the race for the Liberal leadership because of Justin Trudeau. So, I wonder if eveyone else will start to fall out of the race too. I just hope this is not another scam played by the Tories like they did for Dion, which was rumoured to have happened. http://www.ctvnews.ca/politics/former-astronaut-marc-garneau-quitting-bid-to-lead-federal-liberals-1.1193631 Quote
Boges Posted March 13, 2013 Report Posted March 13, 2013 What scam? Stephan Dion won because of proverbial loser Gerrard "kingmaker" Kennedy. Stephan Dion was a weak leader but at least he had ideas, if Trudeau has any ideas he's keeping them secret. I'm not sure if this "coronation" will be good for the Liberals. It's not common for new leaders to win an election their first shot so Justin and the party should commit to sticking with him for at least 2 elections. Getting rid of leaders after each successive losses, IMHO, is one of the main reason the Liberals have fallen of the political cliff. Quote
PIK Posted March 13, 2013 Report Posted March 13, 2013 Makes me wonder if this is all planned. Make it look like a race, then coranate trudeau and every one that ran against him , then get a cabinet post if he ever became PM. If I was lib I would be pissed. Quote Toronto, like a roach motel in the middle of a pretty living room.
Keepitsimple Posted March 13, 2013 Report Posted March 13, 2013 Reports say Garneau will announce this AM that he is quitting the race for the Liberal leadership because of Justin Trudeau. So, I wonder if eveyone else will start to fall out of the race too. I just hope this is not another scam played by the Tories like they did for Dion, which was rumoured to have happened. http://www.ctvnews.ca/politics/former-astronaut-marc-garneau-quitting-bid-to-lead-federal-liberals-1.1193631 So Topaz - you think this is such a horrble idea that it must be a Tory scam? Well it's not.....so I guess you think the Liberals and Garneau have made a very bad mistake? Why is that Topaz? Why do you think it's so bad? Quote Back to Basics
Moonbox Posted March 13, 2013 Report Posted March 13, 2013 Makes me wonder if this is all planned. Make it look like a race, then coranate trudeau and every one that ran against him , then get a cabinet post if he ever became PM. If I was lib I would be pissed. I think Garneau was legitimately trying to win. Kudos to him for attempting to make this into a race, but the Liberal Party had annointed Trudeau from the get-go. There was never actually a race, but Garneau would have liked there to have been. Nobody listened to a single thing he, or any of the other candidates, had to say. Personally I'm terrified at the prospect of Trudeau. I'd bet my life savings right now that he'll win the next federal election at least, and probably a majority, and I'm not upset that the Liberals are going to knock off the Conservatives. What I am unhappy/scared about, however, is how blindly everyone is going to follow him. Whether or not it's into the abyss is a matter of question, but Canadians are going to follow him regardless for no better reason than his father's name. Quote "A man is no more entitled to an opinion for which he cannot account than he is for a pint of beer for which he cannot pay" - Anonymous
eyeball Posted March 13, 2013 Report Posted March 13, 2013 Personally I'm terrified at the prospect of Trudeau. It wasn't that long ago that people found the prospect of Trudeau hilarious. It's either a really fine line between two extremes or some people are just wrapped a little to tightly. Quote A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding.
Boges Posted March 13, 2013 Report Posted March 13, 2013 It wasn't that long ago that people found the prospect of Trudeau hilarious. It's either a really fine line between two extremes or some people are just wrapped a little to tightly. I still think it's hilarious. The dude hasn't really said anything about how he'd govern as a leader and he's going to be taking a beating from both sides. Quote
shortlived Posted March 13, 2013 Report Posted March 13, 2013 (edited) hard shoot at someone without ammunition. Conservative attack ads.. he has styled hair, is the son of a former prime minister, and doesn't have an agenda! People paid to hear him speak, and now he wants to be PM! This former teacher, wants to teach people liberal ideas... a vote for Trudeau is a vote for the liberals! Edited March 13, 2013 by shortlived Quote My posts are sometimes edited to create spelling errors if you see one kindly notify me. These edits do not show up as edits as my own edits do, so it is either site moderation, or third party moderation. This includes changing words completely. If a word looks out of place in a message kindly contact me so I can correct it. These changes are not exclusive to this website, and is either a form of net stalking by a malicious hacker, or perhaps government, it has been ongoing for years now.
Michael Hardner Posted March 13, 2013 Report Posted March 13, 2013 This explains the white smoke, I guess. Quote Click to learn why Climate Change is caused by HUMANS Michael Hardner
Boges Posted March 13, 2013 Report Posted March 13, 2013 and doesn't have an agenda! He certainly doesn't. Quote
MiddleClassCentrist Posted March 13, 2013 Report Posted March 13, 2013 He's handsome, young and charismatic. Isn't that all you need? Because, that is what you need to defeat the millions and millions the conservatives will be spending trying to suggestively slander him. At this point, his politics are largely irrelevant, given how the cons successfully assassinate the character of people with decent ideas. Quote Ideology does not make good policy. Good policy comes from an analysis of options, comparison of options and selection of one option that works best in the current situation. This option is often a compromise between ideologies.
Moonbox Posted March 13, 2013 Report Posted March 13, 2013 It wasn't that long ago that people found the prospect of Trudeau hilarious. It's either a really fine line between two extremes or some people are just wrapped a little to tightly. In a sad kind of way it is hilarious how he's just slipped into the position. The Liberals for years now have been talking about how they need a new leader with 'fresh' ideas and based on a true leadership race, and then they pile on to follow the leader with the least experience, fewest credentials and foggiest platform. Quote "A man is no more entitled to an opinion for which he cannot account than he is for a pint of beer for which he cannot pay" - Anonymous
Moonbox Posted March 13, 2013 Report Posted March 13, 2013 At this point, his politics are largely irrelevant, given how the cons successfully assassinate the character of people with decent ideas. The Conservatives were hand-fed easy targets for character assassination. The last two Liberal leaders were totally out of touch intellectuals with the combined charisma of a potato. Dion proposed an expensive environmental/wealth distribution plan during the middle of our worst recession in 70 years, and then his successor is a man who lived outside of Canada for most of his adult life, coming back only to attempt to be its leader. From the drawing board these should have been obvious no's, but the Liberal brass was too dumb to know any better. As for Trudeau's agenda, you're right, it's irrelevant. I've been saying this for years. He could probably win an election right now without making a single policy point, vapidly smiling in the debates and winking at the audience. Canadians, by and large, are dumb voters. Quote "A man is no more entitled to an opinion for which he cannot account than he is for a pint of beer for which he cannot pay" - Anonymous
Argus Posted March 13, 2013 Report Posted March 13, 2013 I still think it's hilarious. The dude hasn't really said anything about how he'd govern as a leader and he's going to be taking a beating from both sides. I've said before the ignorance, fickleness and shallowness of the Canadian electorate should never be underestimated. The idea that Trudeau could win and get a majority having never espoused any ideas, thoughts or vision, largely on the strength of being pretty is utterly absurd. Quote "A liberal is someone who claims to be open to all points of view — and then is surprised and offended to find there are other points of view.” William F Buckley
Argus Posted March 13, 2013 Report Posted March 13, 2013 He's handsome, young and charismatic. Isn't that all you need? Because, that is what you need to defeat the millions and millions the conservatives will be spending trying to suggestively slander him. At this point, his politics are largely irrelevant, given how the cons successfully assassinate the character of people with decent ideas. You're bitching because the Conservatives did their best to portray their opposition as being less capable of governing than they are? Not very familiar with politics, are you? Quote "A liberal is someone who claims to be open to all points of view — and then is surprised and offended to find there are other points of view.” William F Buckley
Topaz Posted March 14, 2013 Author Report Posted March 14, 2013 So Topaz - you think this is such a horrble idea that it must be a Tory scam? Well it's not.....so I guess you think the Liberals and Garneau have made a very bad mistake? Why is that Topaz? Why do you think it's so bad? The horrible idea is NOT Justin being the front leader, its IF all those supporting of Justin's are really supporting Justin and not a setup by another party. The mistake the Liberals are making are telling people to support them within out having to register and pay money to become a liberal member and I guess if they did that, what's to stop anyone to be a member for ALL parties and then vote for the weakness to go up against their party leader. Don't say it can't be done because people who drink too much talk to much and that's all I'm saying on the subject. Quote
shortlived Posted March 14, 2013 Report Posted March 14, 2013 (edited) I find it sort of neat he could end up returning to his family home. The election is two years off though. Lots of things can change in two years like nuclear holocaust and chinese occupation. Edited March 14, 2013 by shortlived Quote My posts are sometimes edited to create spelling errors if you see one kindly notify me. These edits do not show up as edits as my own edits do, so it is either site moderation, or third party moderation. This includes changing words completely. If a word looks out of place in a message kindly contact me so I can correct it. These changes are not exclusive to this website, and is either a form of net stalking by a malicious hacker, or perhaps government, it has been ongoing for years now.
Newfoundlander Posted March 14, 2013 Report Posted March 14, 2013 Smart move by Garneau. He provided to Liberals what they wanted, a race. He's not going to win so it's better that people who would have donated to his campaign now donate to the Liberal Party instead. Quote
Boges Posted March 14, 2013 Report Posted March 14, 2013 Smart move by Garneau. He provided to Liberals what they wanted, a race. He's not going to win so it's better that people who would have donated to his campaign now donate to the Liberal Party instead. He provided a race by quitting a month before the convention? Quote
Newfoundlander Posted March 14, 2013 Report Posted March 14, 2013 He provided a race by quitting a month before the convention?Yes, there's only one debate left. Trudeau has proven himself so why should Grneau waste anymore money? Quote
punked Posted March 14, 2013 Report Posted March 14, 2013 Heard that day those 300 000 liberals they were talking about last week are just names on paper with out phone numbers or emails. Only 100 000 the people actually registered. More Liberal lies. Did they not think we would find out? Quote
PIK Posted March 14, 2013 Report Posted March 14, 2013 The great liberal party of canada's new leader being decided by all the dead head kids and young girls that want to bang him, people that have no idea or even care about what goes on in the country. I lost all respect when garneau annouces he to will back justin. Everybody fighting to get in the wonder kids good books, all fighting for a cabinet post. This is disgusting and I can't believe the so called smart people on this board still clinging to justin leg. Harper is smiling. Quote Toronto, like a roach motel in the middle of a pretty living room.
Boges Posted March 14, 2013 Report Posted March 14, 2013 The great liberal party of canada's new leader being decided by all the dead head kids and young girls that want to bang him, people that have no idea or even care about what goes on in the country. I lost all respect when garneau annouces he to will back justin. Everybody fighting to get in the wonder kids good books, all fighting for a cabinet post. This is disgusting and I can't believe the so called smart people on this board still clinging to justin leg. Harper is smiling. They're assuming they'll win the next election. That's the kind of Hubris under Iggy that took them down to 30 odd seats. I remember one Summer when Iggy was basically putting Harper on noticed that he'd try to bring down the government as soon as he could. They don't feel they need to earn the electorates trust again. The media is playing up Justin's wow factor and charisma but he still can't come out with how he'd do things differently than the Harper. Quote
eyeball Posted March 14, 2013 Report Posted March 14, 2013 And yet, conservatives are terrified. Quote A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding.
Boges Posted March 14, 2013 Report Posted March 14, 2013 Provide example And yet, conservatives are terrified. Provide examples of this please. Quote
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