kairos Posted March 2, 2013 Report Posted March 2, 2013 (edited) B.C. Premier Christie Clarke caught cynically trying to woo ethnic groups for votes with natural resources. Once again Clarke B.C.'s Sarah Palin desperately tries to use B.C.'s resources for her own political power, while at the same time she uses B.C. taxpayer funded commercials to serve as propaganda to prop up her ailing party through television. http://news.nationalpost.com/2013/03/01/christy-clark-launches-review-after-document-shows-liberals-planned-to-woo-ethnic-votes-with-b-c-resources/ Edited March 2, 2013 by kairos Quote
ReeferMadness Posted March 2, 2013 Report Posted March 2, 2013 A politician caught in an ethically-compromising position? I'm shocked. Quote Unlimited economic growth has the marvelous quality of stilling discontent while preserving privilege, a fact that has not gone unnoticed among liberal economists. - Noam Chomsky It is difficult to get a man to understand something, when his salary depends on his not understanding it. - Upton Sinclair
Sleipnir Posted March 2, 2013 Report Posted March 2, 2013 B.C. Premier Christie Clarke caught cynically trying to woo ethnic groups for votes with natural resources. Well technically its her advisor, not herself. Quote "All you need in this life is ignorance and confidence; then success is sure." - Mark Twain
Canuckistani Posted March 2, 2013 Report Posted March 2, 2013 Well technically its her advisor, not herself. You're kidding right? Her deputy chief of staff takes the fall, but you're not seriously proposing that Crispie Clark didn't know about this and sign off on it? Not i in writing of course, this govt somehow managed to fire the last chief of staff for a sexual indiscretion without putting one word to paper. Amazing, there's no record at all. Quote
shortlived Posted March 2, 2013 Report Posted March 2, 2013 B.C. Premier Christie Clarke caught cynically trying to woo ethnic groups for votes with natural resources. Once again Clarke B.C.'s Sarah Palin desperately tries to use B.C.'s resources for her own political power, while at the same time she uses B.C. taxpayer funded commercials to serve as propaganda to prop up her ailing party through television. http://news.nationalpost.com/2013/03/01/christy-clark-launches-review-after-document-shows-liberals-planned-to-woo-ethnic-votes-with-b-c-resources/ why not post this to provincial politics. Quote My posts are sometimes edited to create spelling errors if you see one kindly notify me. These edits do not show up as edits as my own edits do, so it is either site moderation, or third party moderation. This includes changing words completely. If a word looks out of place in a message kindly contact me so I can correct it. These changes are not exclusive to this website, and is either a form of net stalking by a malicious hacker, or perhaps government, it has been ongoing for years now.
The_Squid Posted March 2, 2013 Report Posted March 2, 2013 The government absolutely would have to know that their senior staffers were implementing this strategy. The ethnic vote strategy was all about using government funds to do party business. Making government apologies for past wrongs strictly to get votes was one example. How could Christy Clark and other senior cabinet ministers not know that this was happening? There is no way that they were ignorant. Here's an interesting take on the whole sordid affair and how all the senior staffers use their personal email accounts to avoid scrutiny. http://www.vancouversun.com/opinion/columnists/Christy+Clark+staffers+find+conduct+public+business/8038327/story.html When Clark’s newly departed deputy chief of staff Kim Haakstad circulated the now-notorious strategy to key staffers on Jan. 10, 2012, she did so not from her email address on the official government server, but from a personal gmail account. Out it went, all 17 detailed, agenda-setting pages, setting down an eight-component plan with specific assignments, accountabilities, and targets. Despite the premier’s effort to downplay it, this was no back-of-the-envelope exercise. One of the prime recipients was Pamela Martin, director of outreach for the premier and like Haakstad a personal friend of Clark who worked on her successful leadership campaign. Martin, being employed at taxpayers’ expense in the premier’s office, has an email address on the government server as well. But any email traffic with Haakstad through that route would be obtainable via a request for access filed under the Freedom of Information and Privacy Act. Doubtless that is why Haakstad shipped the electronic document to Martin at her personal Shaw email address. Lorne Mayencourt, director of outreach for the caucus of Liberal MLAs in the legislature and another member of the Clark leadership team, got his copy through me.com. Also on the gmail service was Barinder Bhullar, the senior outreach coordinator in the premier’s office. And yes, Clark’s top-heavy support group included two directors of outreach and a senior coordinator for same. David Ritchie, then an aide to a cabinet minister, and Jeff Melland, then a caucus communications officer, were both recipients at their gmail addresses as well. Brian Bonney, then communications director for multiculturalism, received Haakstad’s personal email missive at his own firm’s address, mainlandcommunications.com. Quote
Sleipnir Posted March 2, 2013 Report Posted March 2, 2013 You're kidding right? Her deputy chief of staff takes the fall, but you're not seriously proposing that Crispie Clark didn't know about this and sign off on it? Why not? She's not a god, she can't possibly know everything that goes on in a party. Quote "All you need in this life is ignorance and confidence; then success is sure." - Mark Twain
The_Squid Posted March 2, 2013 Report Posted March 2, 2013 Why not? She's not a god, she can't possibly know everything that goes on in a party. Even when it is a political strategy that comes from her top aides that affects public policy and uses public funds? That's assinine! Quote
Canuckistani Posted March 3, 2013 Report Posted March 3, 2013 Why not? She's not a god, she can't possibly know everything that goes on in a party. No, in that case she's either incomepetent or just a puppet on somebody else's string. Probably both. Quote
g_bambino Posted March 3, 2013 Report Posted March 3, 2013 why not post this to provincial politics. Indeed. Quote
kairos Posted March 3, 2013 Author Report Posted March 3, 2013 B.C. Premier Christie Clarke caught cynically trying to woo ethnic groups for votes with natural resources. Once again Clarke B.C.'s Sarah Palin desperately tries to use B.C.'s resources for her own political power, while at the same time she usesB.C. taxpayer funded commercials to serve as propaganda to prop up herailing party through television. http://news.nationalpost.com/2013/03/01/christy-clark-launches-review-after-document-shows-liberals-planned-to-woo-ethnic-votes-with-b-c-resources/ Quote
eyeball Posted March 3, 2013 Report Posted March 3, 2013 Once again Clarke B.C.'s Sarah Palin desperately tries to use B.C.'s resources for her own political power, while at the same time she uses B.C. taxpayer funded commercials to serve as propaganda to prop up her ailing party through television. http://news.nationalpost.com/2013/03/01/christy-clark-launches-review-after-document-shows-liberals-planned-to-woo-ethnic-votes-with-b-c-resources/ Just like Stephan Harper and his Canada's Economic Action Plan ads This discussion could just as easily have stayed in the Federal Politics forum but in actual fact it probably belongs in the Moral & Ethical Issues forum. Quote A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding.
bush_cheney2004 Posted March 3, 2013 Report Posted March 3, 2013 There are several Sarah Palin's in Canada....which one ? Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
Wilber Posted March 3, 2013 Report Posted March 3, 2013 Just like Stephan Harper and his Canada's Economic Action Plan ads This discussion could just as easily have stayed in the Federal Politics forum but in actual fact it probably belongs in the Moral & Ethical Issues forum. I agree. Quote "Never trust a man who has not a single redeeming vice". WSC
kairos Posted March 3, 2013 Author Report Posted March 3, 2013 http://www.vancouversun.com/news/metro/Clark+face+cabinet+emergency+meeting+Sunday/8042358/story.html Quote
kairos Posted March 3, 2013 Author Report Posted March 3, 2013 http://www.vancouversun.com/news/metro/Clark+face+cabinet+emergency+meeting+Sunday/8042358/story.html Quote
Moonlight Graham Posted March 3, 2013 Report Posted March 3, 2013 I don't find this very controversial, or different than what every party does. Quote "All generalizations are false, including this one." - Mark Twain Partisanship is a disease of the intellect.
Topaz Posted March 4, 2013 Report Posted March 4, 2013 I don't know if this is true or not but hasn't the fed. Tories been accused of the same thing? Quote
Newfoundlander Posted March 4, 2013 Report Posted March 4, 2013 I don't know if this is true or not but hasn't the fed. Tories been accused of the same thing? I've never heard anything, maybe you should look it up first. Quote
Wilber Posted March 4, 2013 Report Posted March 4, 2013 All parties seem to have a history of being ethically challenged when it comes to using public funds to get re elected but that doesn't make it OK. Quote "Never trust a man who has not a single redeeming vice". WSC
Topaz Posted March 4, 2013 Report Posted March 4, 2013 I've never heard anything, maybe you should look it up first. Yeah, they were by the opposition parties, that Kenney helped people into the country and they those people were so grateful they would support the Tories, or something along that line. I think its was Toronto and Vancouver for the votes. Quote
Paradox Posted March 4, 2013 Report Posted March 4, 2013 The Honourable Christy Clark MLA (Vancouver-Point Grey), the Premier, is in some serious electoral trouble. Her Majesty's B.C. Government is set to be crushed in the general election, with the B.C. Liberals likely to be reduced to 20 seats or less, and the B.C. NDP to be handed a considerable majority. The management of the Ethnicgate issue by the premier is also causing her ministers to question her leadership, necessitating an emergency cabinet meeting yesterday. This was too little too late to quell grassroots B.C. Liberals' dissatisfaction with the premier's handling of the scandal, with several riding association presidents, vice-presidents, and executives in Surrey and Richmond resigning in protest. She is going to have major problems in ridings such as Surrey-Tynehead, where the riding associations themselves are unhappy. Quote
DogOnPorch Posted March 5, 2013 Report Posted March 5, 2013 Indeed...time for those cheap-suit mafiosos called the NDP too run us into the ground for a while. Quote Nothing cracks a turtle like Leon Uris.
Wilber Posted March 5, 2013 Report Posted March 5, 2013 Another election with no one to vote for. Quote "Never trust a man who has not a single redeeming vice". WSC
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