Sleipnir Posted February 15, 2013 Report Posted February 15, 2013 (edited) Apparently this thing was about 10 tones. THAT's HUGE !!!! Some reports of about 500 injured, some say over 700 injured. It was actually an meteor air burst not a meteor impact. Edited February 15, 2013 by Sleipnir Quote "All you need in this life is ignorance and confidence; then success is sure." - Mark Twain
Bonam Posted February 15, 2013 Report Posted February 15, 2013 Reports say it was actually 7,000 tonnes: http://www.cbc.ca/news/world/story/2013/02/15/russia-meteorite.html?cmp=rss Quote
Moonlight Graham Posted February 16, 2013 Report Posted February 16, 2013 Pretty crazy. Most people injured by broken glass as they rushed to stare at the scene in the sky from their buildings etc. If I were there I would have thought it was a missile or a plane. Apparently it exploded in the sky before it was able to hit the ground in one piece, which caused the large boom. Quote "All generalizations are false, including this one." - Mark Twain Partisanship is a disease of the intellect.
bush_cheney2004 Posted February 16, 2013 Report Posted February 16, 2013 Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
Guest Derek L Posted February 16, 2013 Report Posted February 16, 2013 (edited) Good thing Canada’s withdrawal from BMD didn’t end that program…. http://www.scienceworldreport.com/articles/4983/20130215/missile-defense-system-test-milestone-space-tracking.htm Edited February 16, 2013 by Derek L Quote
DogOnPorch Posted February 16, 2013 Report Posted February 16, 2013 (edited) Good thing Canada’s withdrawal from BMD didn’t end that program…. http://www.sciencewo...ce-tracking.htm With a known space rock, it would be better to hit it with a continuous laser beam or send a mission to it to increase or reduce albedo on one side in order to produce this effect on a large scale. Edited February 16, 2013 by DogOnPorch Quote Nothing cracks a turtle like Leon Uris.
GostHacked Posted February 16, 2013 Author Report Posted February 16, 2013 I was surprised that the shock wave was so strong. Blew the roof off of a zinc factory. Not very surprising at all. Mid 80s two CF-18 pilots blew through the sound barrier at low altitude about 20kms south of Sudbury ON. Windows downtown blew out. Quote
GostHacked Posted February 16, 2013 Author Report Posted February 16, 2013 Reports say it was actually 7,000 tonnes: http://www.cbc.ca/ne...te.html?cmp=rss 7000 tonnes would make everyone on this planet have a very very bad day. Quote
DogOnPorch Posted February 16, 2013 Report Posted February 16, 2013 Not very surprising at all. Mid 80s two CF-18 pilots blew through the sound barrier at low altitude about 20kms south of Sudbury ON. Windows downtown blew out. Blowing a few windows out is a few magnitudes less than ripping the roof off of a factory. Do you recall the MythBusters episode where they used sound waves to knock over various obstacles? It took a LOT to move a brick. Quote Nothing cracks a turtle like Leon Uris.
DogOnPorch Posted February 16, 2013 Report Posted February 16, 2013 7000 tonnes would make everyone on this planet have a very very bad day. That's apparently the weight as estimated. Quote Nothing cracks a turtle like Leon Uris.
Guest Posted February 16, 2013 Report Posted February 16, 2013 30 Hiroshimas according to NASA. http://www.telegraph.co.uk/science/space/9874662/Russian-meteor-hit-with-force-of-30-Hiroshima-bombs.html Quote
DogOnPorch Posted February 16, 2013 Report Posted February 16, 2013 Agreed. 500kt seems about right. Quote Nothing cracks a turtle like Leon Uris.
sharkman Posted February 16, 2013 Report Posted February 16, 2013 The US space program has to be greatly reduced with the way Obama sacked NASA. I wonder what their capacity is these days to detect meteors such as the Russian event? Quote
DogOnPorch Posted February 17, 2013 Report Posted February 17, 2013 The US space program has to be greatly reduced with the way Obama sacked NASA. I wonder what their capacity is these days to detect meteors such as the Russian event? Generally, all areas will suffer. Including Earth watching abilities. Less birds in the sky doing science. But, it's amateurs who often find these NEOs...by accident, naturally. But, the chance of us seeing that Russian rock ahead of time was slim to nil. It was probably very low albedo and way beyond magnitude 18. Plus all eyes were on the bigger rock making a pass. A fairly large meteor came in over San Francisco some hours later...looks like it skipped back out into space. Didn't see that baby, either....oooops. Quote Nothing cracks a turtle like Leon Uris.
eyeball Posted February 17, 2013 Report Posted February 17, 2013 How's that space program coming along you ask? Well, not too good I'd say given how the natural resource window through which our species might shoehorn itself into space was co-opted by the 1% for their own purposes. I think we probably only get one chance at this shoehorning business. Might as well keep partying like there's no tomorrow I guess. Quote A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding.
Guest Derek L Posted February 17, 2013 Report Posted February 17, 2013 With a known space rock, it would be better to hit it with a continuous laser beam or send a mission to it to increase or reduce albedo on one side in order to produce this effect on a large scale. But Star Wars is bad no? http://youtu.be/dq6ZsF6bzOA Quote
bush_cheney2004 Posted February 17, 2013 Report Posted February 17, 2013 (edited) The US space program has to be greatly reduced with the way Obama sacked NASA. I wonder what their capacity is these days to detect meteors such as the Russian event? NASA has defined projects that track space debris and orbiting objects, as does the US DoD, mostly to avoid collision risk for manned and unmanned assets. It is not responsible for tracking all possible objects over all air space for the planet, nor could it ever do so. Meteors are naturally occurring objects / events that just go with the territory. http://www.nasa.gov/...tal_debris.html Edited February 17, 2013 by bush_cheney2004 Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
WWWTT Posted February 17, 2013 Report Posted February 17, 2013 Just for the record. Tunguska is only theorized to be a meteor. There is no evidence of any meteor frogments! The evidence points more to a nuclear blast covering a massive 500,000 acres and no impact crater! WWWTT Quote Maple Leaf Web is now worth $720.00! Down over $1,500 in less than one year! Total fail of the moderation on this site! That reminds me, never ask Greg to be a business partner! NEVER!
GostHacked Posted February 17, 2013 Author Report Posted February 17, 2013 Just for the record. Tunguska is only theorized to be a meteor. There is no evidence of any meteor frogments! The evidence points more to a nuclear blast covering a massive 500,000 acres and no impact crater! WWWTT So a nuclear bomb decades before the first nuclear bomb was tested? Quote
DogOnPorch Posted February 17, 2013 Report Posted February 17, 2013 So a nuclear bomb decades before the first nuclear bomb was tested? This was 99% a comet that broke up violently in our atmosphere. Lake Cheko is thought to be the sight of the impact of what was left. Quote Nothing cracks a turtle like Leon Uris.
sharkman Posted February 17, 2013 Report Posted February 17, 2013 Just for the record. Tunguska is only theorized to be a meteor. There is no evidence of any meteor frogments! The evidence points more to a nuclear blast covering a massive 500,000 acres and no impact crater! WWWTT The best conspiracy theories are the ones that sound believable. Quote
DogOnPorch Posted February 17, 2013 Report Posted February 17, 2013 The best conspiracy theories are the ones that sound believable. Indeed...we see big comets zooming by all the time...one is due by soon, in fact...but it is obviously a hydrogen bomb 40+ years before humans actually made one. Quote Nothing cracks a turtle like Leon Uris.
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