Topaz Posted February 10, 2013 Report Posted February 10, 2013 Maybe Harper's so-called secret agenda is just that, an agenda to keep information a secret or slowed down in getting out. Canada's Info. Com. says that THIS government, is not the most transparent. She has 7000 complaints to deal with from people trying to get info. from the departments. These departments are asking for an extension of giving out the info if its more than 30 days as the rules say. So common sense says that the government is trying to hide or stop info. coming out so why is that? What are they trying to hide. Every thing they are doing will come out after the next government take over. BTW, I heard that Harper maybe thinking of not having an election Oct. 2015. http://ca.news.yahoo.com/feds-not-transparent-says-information-commissioner-171612490.html Quote
TimG Posted February 10, 2013 Report Posted February 10, 2013 (edited) I heard that Harper maybe thinking of not having an election Oct. 2015.Yes - in the dens of the harper haters any rumour - no matter how implausible - is immediately accepted as fact if because the harper haters get a rush off it.Hate is such a negative word yet so many people seem to revel in it. Whether is NDP vs Cons, Dems vs Rep, Jew vs Arab. It is almost as if the object if the hate is not important - the haters just need to hate because they are addicted to it like a coke addict craves cocaine. Edited February 10, 2013 by TimG Quote
g_bambino Posted February 10, 2013 Report Posted February 10, 2013 I heard that Harper maybe thinking of not having an election Oct. 2015. You heard that, did you? I heard he's a swamp creature that licks your face while you sleep. Quote
Signals.Cpl Posted February 10, 2013 Report Posted February 10, 2013 Maybe Harper's so-called secret agenda is just that, an agenda to keep information a secret or slowed down in getting out. Canada's Info. Com. says that THIS government, is not the most transparent. She has 7000 complaints to deal with from people trying to get info. from the departments. These departments are asking for an extension of giving out the info if its more than 30 days as the rules say. So common sense says that the government is trying to hide or stop info. coming out so why is that? What are they trying to hide. Every thing they are doing will come out after the next government take over. BTW, I heard that Harper maybe thinking of not having an election Oct. 2015. http://ca.news.yahoo...-171612490.html How did you hear PM Harper thinking? Quote Hope for the Best, Prepare for the Worst
Newfoundlander Posted February 10, 2013 Report Posted February 10, 2013 (edited) There was already talk by Robert Ghiz and Stephen Harper bout the timing of the next election. http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/prince-edward-island/story/2012/12/03/pei-election-date-584.html Edited February 10, 2013 by Newfoundlander Quote
Signals.Cpl Posted February 10, 2013 Report Posted February 10, 2013 There was already talk by Robert Ghiz and Stephen Harper bout the timing of the next election. http://www.cbc.ca/ne...n-date-584.html But that was to separate the federal election and provincial elections so as not to interfere with each other. Quote Hope for the Best, Prepare for the Worst
Sleipnir Posted February 10, 2013 Report Posted February 10, 2013 Maybe Harper's so-called secret agenda is just that, an agenda to keep information a secret or slowed down in getting out. She has 7000 complaints to deal with from people trying to get info. from the departments. Harper isn't a female. Quote "All you need in this life is ignorance and confidence; then success is sure." - Mark Twain
Newfoundlander Posted February 10, 2013 Report Posted February 10, 2013 But that was to separate the federal election and provincial elections so as not to interfere with each other. Exactly. Quote
Keepitsimple Posted February 10, 2013 Report Posted February 10, 2013 BTW, I heard that Harper maybe thinking of not having an election Oct. 2015. http://ca.news.yahoo...-171612490.html Another Tin Foil Hat gem from Topaz. Be afraid. Be very afraid Quote Back to Basics
shortlived Posted February 10, 2013 Report Posted February 10, 2013 (edited) Harper isn't a female. Read linkys Canada's Information Commissioner, Suzanne Legault, ' Let me guess you are going to say he isn't transvestite either. Also I'm not greatly upset information requests on the department of national defence are going unanswered. I think there should be godsmacked and a stern reply. Information either doesn't exist or is classified or above secrecy, file again in 50-100 years. This response does not indicate information exists, but if it did exist you would not have access to it. Please apply to work at DND or CSIS or other agency which has access to canada's secrets for more insight. Thankyou for asking. Sorry, Please try again. Of course the government could take the free for all aproach... in addition to your request for information we are giving you an RPG and a set of keys to a brand new leased leopard II! Call 1 416-777-5555 for more info, skill testing question may apply. Edited February 10, 2013 by shortlived Quote My posts are sometimes edited to create spelling errors if you see one kindly notify me. These edits do not show up as edits as my own edits do, so it is either site moderation, or third party moderation. This includes changing words completely. If a word looks out of place in a message kindly contact me so I can correct it. These changes are not exclusive to this website, and is either a form of net stalking by a malicious hacker, or perhaps government, it has been ongoing for years now.
PIK Posted February 11, 2013 Report Posted February 11, 2013 I heard that the liberal leadership race is a coranation for the boy wonder and everyone running ,is running for a cabinet post. Quote Toronto, like a roach motel in the middle of a pretty living room.
jacee Posted February 11, 2013 Report Posted February 11, 2013 Yes - in the dens of the harper haters any rumour - no matter how implausible - is immediately accepted as fact if because the harper haters get a rush off it. Hate is such a negative word yet so many people seem to revel in it. Whether is NDP vs Cons, Dems vs Rep, Jew vs Arab. It is almost as if the object if the hate is not important - the haters just need to hate because they are addicted to it like a coke addict craves cocaine. Why don't you stick to addressing the post, instead of impuning motives and finding imaginary drug-addled monsters hiding between the lines? Quote
TimG Posted February 11, 2013 Report Posted February 11, 2013 Why don't you stick to addressing the postThe post was the rantings of a conspiracy nut. I made that point clear. You are not much better than Topaz when it comes to ascribing nefarious motives to people you disagree with. Quote
gunrutz Posted February 11, 2013 Report Posted February 11, 2013 Why don't you stick to addressing the post, instead of impuning motives and finding imaginary drug-addled monsters hiding between the lines? Ahh because the motives matter, and becuase of the irrational hatred many people have for a governemnt that has been no worse, and perhaps no better than many we have had before, but then this is a conservative, western based party, and the vast majority of the complaints against it are either unproven or can be rationally explained. You don't have to like it, you don't have to agree, but remeber all of those hot button issues that were part of the dreaded, darth vader-imperial empire like secret agenda that the liberals used against the conservatives, well, none of them have actually happened. Quote
Accountability Now Posted February 11, 2013 Report Posted February 11, 2013 but then this is a conservative, western based party, I agree with your statement and I'm not trying to pick on you but can someone explain why this conservative goverment is a western based goverment. I understand that Harper holds his seat in Calgary but he was also born and raised in Toronto. Moreso...there are 71 Conservative MPs from BC, Alberta, Sask, and Manitoba combined. Ontario has 73 alone. Then Quebec and Maritimes have 19. I'm not trying to complain about West vs. East as I fully understand its representation by population but no matter what....it will always be an Ontario or Quebec goverment. Maybe this year we have more of a voice but I don't see the western base. Quote
ReeferMadness Posted February 12, 2013 Report Posted February 12, 2013 (edited) There seems to have been a huge amount of thread drift from the OP and we've just hit page 2. Our Information Commissioner is complaining that the Government is hiding information. Anyone who believes in democracy should be concerned about this regardless of your opinion of Harper. Whatever happened to his promise to be more transparent & accountable? Or was that promise only good up to the point of actually getting elected? Edited February 12, 2013 by ReeferMadness Quote Unlimited economic growth has the marvelous quality of stilling discontent while preserving privilege, a fact that has not gone unnoticed among liberal economists. - Noam Chomsky It is difficult to get a man to understand something, when his salary depends on his not understanding it. - Upton Sinclair
Topaz Posted February 12, 2013 Author Report Posted February 12, 2013 Some of you, Tories supporters, should chill.I really think it sad that you rather attack someone that is talking about a party/government that came to power to be different, to be open to be accountability, which has gone in the other direction! I DO NOT HATE anyone including Harper, BUT I do not like what he has done while in the PMO. I am saying nothing that you, Tory supporters, wouldn't say. So if you get off in attacking people for their views, very immature way of communication, then go ahead and I will come back at you on my views but not on a personal attack mode that you do. The commissioner has a view towards this government and if you don't like it write your MP. Quote
westguy Posted February 12, 2013 Report Posted February 12, 2013 i dont see any "hidden agenda" Quote
Keepitsimple Posted February 12, 2013 Report Posted February 12, 2013 Some of you, Tories supporters, should chill.I really think it sad that you rather attack someone that is talking about a party/government that came to power to be different, to be open to be accountability, which has gone in the other direction! I DO NOT HATE anyone including Harper, BUT I do not like what he has done while in the PMO. I am saying nothing that you, Tory supporters, wouldn't say. So if you get off in attacking people for their views, very immature way of communication, then go ahead and I will come back at you on my views but not on a personal attack mode that you do. The commissioner has a view towards this government and if you don't like it write your MP. Then perhaps you can try and actually read your own articles instead of making stuff up like this: BTW, I heard that Harper maybe thinking of not having an election Oct. 2015. http://ca.news.yahoo...-171612490.html Quote Back to Basics
westguy Posted February 18, 2013 Report Posted February 18, 2013 someof the posters on this site are paranoid Quote
sharkman Posted February 19, 2013 Report Posted February 19, 2013 (edited) someof the posters on this site are paranoid The thing is, as long as Harper's opponents get faked out by their own fears of agenda items in a grand conspiracy, then the Torys have nothing to worry about. Speculate away, libs! Edited February 19, 2013 by sharkman Quote
BubberMiley Posted February 19, 2013 Report Posted February 19, 2013 The thing is, as long as Harper's opponents get faked out by their own fears of agenda items in a grand conspiracy, then the Torys have nothing to worry about. Speculate away, libs! Conspiracy and agenda are not synonymous. Quote "I think it's fun watching the waldick get all excited/knickers in a knot over something." -scribblet
Fletch 27 Posted February 19, 2013 Report Posted February 19, 2013 Conspiracy and agenda are not synonymous. What conspiracy? What agenda? Othe than good governance and growing the economy? And one poster stated "Accountability"? This has benn the MOST accountable governent in recent history.. "Accountability" is simplt a catch-phrase used out of context for anything the opposition doesnt like. I myself would like Thomas Mulcair to account for his position on the 50%+1 in a QC referendum! "Accountability now"!!! Quote
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