On Guard for Thee Posted December 7, 2013 Report Posted December 7, 2013 Yup, so he doesn't remember it ... So if it's the truth, it's an outright lie. And if it's not the truth, Ford's mouth is moving. Because his lawyer tells him he doesn't have to incriminate himself so he doesn't have to tell the truth and he can't remember what the truth is anyway. It's sad. My hope for Rob is that he gets his own career in sports broadcasting. I will also say that to date, I don't think there is sufficient evidence that will stand up in court to lay criminal charges against Ford. Even without criminal charges he has a pretty serious credibility problem. I think there is a new batch of police reports that have now been made public that may be juicy. Truth to tell I can't quite keep up between the unfolding scandals in Toronto and in Ottawa. Apparently Ford is trying to establish some sort of gong show on Youtube. I haven't bothered to check it out. Quote
ReeferMadness Posted December 7, 2013 Report Posted December 7, 2013 Even without criminal charges he has a pretty serious credibility problem. I think there is a new batch of police reports that have now been made public that may be juicy. Truth to tell I can't quite keep up between the unfolding scandals in Toronto and in Ottawa. Apparently Ford is trying to establish some sort of gong show on Youtube. I haven't bothered to check it out. You'd think but it doesn't seem to make a dent in his credibility with Ford Nation. Political polarization in this country seems to be getting worse and worse. The tax cutting crowd would vote for Jack the Ripper if he could convince them all he really wanted to do was lower their taxes. Quote Unlimited economic growth has the marvelous quality of stilling discontent while preserving privilege, a fact that has not gone unnoticed among liberal economists. - Noam Chomsky It is difficult to get a man to understand something, when his salary depends on his not understanding it. - Upton Sinclair
ReeferMadness Posted December 7, 2013 Report Posted December 7, 2013 But he has saved billions doncha know? Was it only billions? I thought it was trillions. Quadrillions? Didn't he single-handedly save Toronto from space aliens? Quote Unlimited economic growth has the marvelous quality of stilling discontent while preserving privilege, a fact that has not gone unnoticed among liberal economists. - Noam Chomsky It is difficult to get a man to understand something, when his salary depends on his not understanding it. - Upton Sinclair
On Guard for Thee Posted December 8, 2013 Report Posted December 8, 2013 You'd think but it doesn't seem to make a dent in his credibility with Ford Nation. Political polarization in this country seems to be getting worse and worse. The tax cutting crowd would vote for Jack the Ripper if he could convince them all he really wanted to do was lower their taxes. Yes I hear what you're saying on both Ford and politics. Although it seems to be looking more and more like the Ford thing may rectify itself when the cops slap the cuffs on him and drag him downtown. The current stance of politics up here seems to be taking on some of the characteristics of our neighbors to the south, and that ain't good. Either side of the border it seems the wheels of gov have ground to a bit of a halt: there largely due to the tea party freaks who oppose everything to do with a democrat, here due to the never ending scandals. Ho hum, wake me when it's over. Or on second thought, do you happen to have a contact number for old Jack? Quote
Black Dog Posted December 10, 2013 Report Posted December 10, 2013 Rob Ford implies Star reporter is a pedophile in TV interview with convict Conrad Black Mr. Black, the former press baron, asked him to name the most “offensive events – abrasions – that have been perpetrated on you or your family by the media?” “Well,” replied Mr. Ford, “I guess the worst one was Daniel Dale in my backyard taking pictures. I have little kids. When a guy’s taking pictures of little kids” – and here Mr. Ford shook his head and gave a small, skeptical laugh – “I don’t want to say that word but you start thinking, ‘What’s this guy all about?’” Interesting to see what kind of legal issues this opens up for Ford if the Star and/or Dale decide to explore a slander suit. Quote
Wilber Posted December 10, 2013 Report Posted December 10, 2013 Rob Ford implies Star reporter is a pedophile in TV interview with convict Conrad Black Interesting to see what kind of legal issues this opens up for Ford if the Star and/or Dale decide to explore a slander suit. If the guy was actualy in Ford's back yard taking pictures of his family, that would probably be a bad idea. Quote "Never trust a man who has not a single redeeming vice". WSC
Rue Posted December 10, 2013 Report Posted December 10, 2013 (edited) In certain kinds of work such as being a mediator or journalism, or politics, or law, sooner or later someone will complain about you and use inappropriate words. On this forum its done all the time. Having thick skin is not easy. Personally I wish my skin was as thick as my head. That said, I would hope the subject journalist Dle will dismiss this kind of statement for what it is, pathetic. I think the worst thing the Star could do is react. There is not enough substance for a defamation suit and giving this comment any more attention then it deserves would only make Ford look like he is being picked on by the Star something he is trying to do to play to his audience. Ford wants to bait the Star in making him a martyr. I doubt this Dale person did anything but role his eyes. Its a reflection on how low a man Ford is. Nothing else. The last thing you want to do is turn him into a martyr. That said, I do note Chow is on the campaign trail and we have two supposed right of centre candidates and her already suggesting the right will split the vote and let Chow in. I think it is crucial the right unify under one candidate, namely John Tory and not let Chow split the vote. Tory is a middle of the roader. He would be far gentler on social issues but prudent on spending issues. I think as it is now, Ford will splinter the right and get Chow elected and then run around as Toronto goes bankrupt posing himself as a martyr if he lives long enough. It would not surprise me either with all that venom in him he just keels over from a massive heart attack. You carry that much poison in you, it has to kill you sooner or later. Edited December 10, 2013 by Rue Quote
Black Dog Posted December 10, 2013 Report Posted December 10, 2013 If the guy was actualy in Ford's back yard taking pictures of his family, that would probably be a bad idea. Except there's no evidence that was the case. Just Ford's word. What's that worth? Reviewing that story again with the benefit of hindsight, I wonder how drunk Ford was that evening. Quote
Black Dog Posted December 10, 2013 Report Posted December 10, 2013 The other part of that Ford interview worth mentioning is that Ford believes the investigation into his associations with criminals was part of a political vendetta by Chief Bill Blair brought on by Ford's demand for "efficiencies." Quote
guyser Posted December 10, 2013 Report Posted December 10, 2013 The best thing to happen in a long time is to just give Ford more and more rope. He is well on his way to hanging himself already. Quote
jacee Posted December 10, 2013 Report Posted December 10, 2013 (edited) Rob Ford implies Star reporter is a pedophile in TV interview with convict Conrad Black Interesting to see what kind of legal issues this opens up for Ford if the Star and/or Dale decide to explore a slander suit. I doubt it would get far, and besides, brother Doug says Rob didn't say that ... Daniel Dale is in my backyard taking pictures. I have little kids. He's taking pictures of little kids," Ford said."I don't want to say that word but you start thinking what this guy is all about."Dale, who seemed bemused by Ford's comments, said at no time did he ever take any photographs of the mayor's family, house or even his property and a police investigation bore that out. He said the Star's lawyers were pondering next steps. Ford was not immediately available to comment, but his brother, Coun. Doug Ford, said the mayor did not suggest Dale was a pedophile. http://www.theprovince.com/touch/story.html?id=9269234 Seems if brother Doug's mouth is open, he's lying. I don't think he's helping his brother's cause any. Edited December 10, 2013 by jacee Quote
g_bambino Posted December 10, 2013 Report Posted December 10, 2013 Ford was not immediately available to comment, but his brother, Coun. Doug Ford, said the mayor did not suggest Dale was a pedophile. http://www.theprovince.com/touch/story.html?id=9269234 I wonder if Bob and Doug could devise... No, they could pay someone to devise a machine that automatically responds to reporters by playing back the reporter's question but placing a recording of Doug saying "The Mayor did not..." over the "Has the Mayor" or "Did the Mayor" part. It would then play a randomly selected phrase from a collection including "gravy train", "saved taxpayers a billion dollars", "lots of people enjoy a few drinks on the weekend", and "drunken stupor". Quote
jacee Posted December 10, 2013 Report Posted December 10, 2013 The other part of that Ford interview worth mentioning is that Ford believes the investigation into his associations with criminals was part of a political vendetta by Chief Bill Blair brought on by Ford's demand for "efficiencies." I think Ford's stepping into dangerous territory here, but that's his choice. The police would look pretty complicit if they didn't look into Ford's behaviour around the 'video' issue and related drug issues. Quote
jacee Posted December 10, 2013 Report Posted December 10, 2013 I wonder if Bob and Doug could devise... No, they could pay someone to devise a machine that automatically responds to reporters by playing back the reporter's question but placing a recording of Doug saying "The Mayor did not..." over the "Has the Mayor" or "Did the Mayor" part. It would then play a randomly selected phrase from a collection including "gravy train", "saved taxpayers a billion dollars", "lots of people enjoy a few drinks on the weekend", and "drunken stupor".Make it a toy doll with a 'denial' push button ... it'll sell millions! One behind every Etobicoke basement rec room bar for sure! . Quote
BubberMiley Posted December 10, 2013 Report Posted December 10, 2013 Is there no one left on this forum willing to defend him? Quote "I think it's fun watching the waldick get all excited/knickers in a knot over something." -scribblet
Rue Posted December 11, 2013 Report Posted December 11, 2013 Is there no one left on this forum willing to defend him? Oh sure. If he says something anti Israel, Bud will. Quote
On Guard for Thee Posted December 11, 2013 Report Posted December 11, 2013 Is there no one left on this forum willing to defend him? He may end up needing Eddie Greenspan to defend him. Quote
Mighty AC Posted December 11, 2013 Report Posted December 11, 2013 Is there no one left on this forum willing to defend him? It's not his fault! How can you expect an elitist that has partied hard into his forties, protected from the consequences by family money, to accept responsibility for his own actions? How can you also expect a man who has abused alcohol and a plethora of drugs to still have the intellect to run a major city? You can't logically saddle Rob with those expectations. Sure I'm willing to concede that the hundreds of bad choices are Rob's fault, BUT, nobody would care if he wasn't the mayor. Rob should never have been put in this position. So I am suggesting that conservatives, Rob's family, handlers and voters are to blame. If you ever find yourself thinking "hey we need a regular guy in charge, because educated folk are elitists", you might be an idiot. I suggest you promptly watch speeches by Fordy, Don Cherry and Dubya Bush, until you've purged that stupid idea from your brain. Quote "Our lives begin to end the day we stay silent about the things that matter." - Martin Luther King Jr"Those who can make you believe absurdities, can make you commit atrocities" - Voltaire
jacee Posted December 11, 2013 Report Posted December 11, 2013 (edited) It's not his fault! How can you expect an elitist that has partied hard into his forties, protected from the consequences by family money, to accept responsibility for his own actions? How can you also expect a man who has abused alcohol and a plethora of drugs to still have the intellect to run a major city? You can't logically saddle Rob with those expectations. I think Ford's latest bizarre accusations against Daniel Dale make it obvious that Raging Rob is totally consumed by his oxy-popping paranoia. . Edited December 11, 2013 by jacee Quote
BubberMiley Posted December 11, 2013 Report Posted December 11, 2013 (edited) I think Ford's latest bizarre accusations against Daniel Dale make it obvious that Raging Rob is totally consumed by his oxy-popping paranoia. . I doubt it. I don't think he really thinks that Dale was taking pictures of his family. He just lies because he knows he has a (sociopathic) segment of the population who worship him and will believe anything he says. He also lies because he's a lying liar who loves to lie. But also because there are enablers egging him on. Up until this Black interview, I was thoroughly enjoying the Fords for the complete and utter embarrasment they are to the conservative movement. But after that pathetic display, he's become just a sad, pathetic POS who has done all the damage he can to right-wing politics in Canada, so it's time for him to just go away. At least he's bringing Conrad Black even further down with him. Edited December 11, 2013 by BubberMiley Quote "I think it's fun watching the waldick get all excited/knickers in a knot over something." -scribblet
jacee Posted December 12, 2013 Report Posted December 12, 2013 Up until this Black interview, I was thoroughly enjoying the Fords for the complete and utter embarrasment they are to the conservative movement. But after that pathetic display, he's become just a sad, pathetic POS who has done all the damage he can to right-wing politics in Canada, so it's time for him to just go away. At least he's bringing Conrad Black even further down with him. Conrad steps back from Ford ... "I gather, it has been imputed to me that I am aligned with Ford and a supporter of his for re-election that is not the case, I never said any such thing," Black said in an interview with CBC Radios As It Happens."And that would not, in fact, be my view, unless his opponent was somebody that was just really terribly unacceptable." l Quote
ReeferMadness Posted December 12, 2013 Report Posted December 12, 2013 Conrad steps back from Ford ... "I gather, it has been imputed to me that I am aligned with Ford and a supporter of his for re-election that is not the case, I never said any such thing," Black said in an interview with CBC Radios As It Happens."And that would not, in fact, be my view, unless his opponent was somebody that was just really terribly unacceptable." l Even Lord Black of Crossharbour has abandoned him. Poor Rob. Quote Unlimited economic growth has the marvelous quality of stilling discontent while preserving privilege, a fact that has not gone unnoticed among liberal economists. - Noam Chomsky It is difficult to get a man to understand something, when his salary depends on his not understanding it. - Upton Sinclair
guyser Posted December 12, 2013 Report Posted December 12, 2013 Even Lord Black of Crossharbour has abandoned him. Poor Rob. C Black just dropped down a couple of pegs in respectibility with the airing of that interview. He, of all people, knows what slander/libel is and he allowed it to be perpetrated by His Honer the Fat Man. Quote
g_bambino Posted December 12, 2013 Report Posted December 12, 2013 C Black just dropped down a couple of pegs in respectibility with the airing of that interview. He, of all people, knows what slander/libel is and he allowed it to be perpetrated by His Honer the Fat Man. The editors and producers have final say in what gets aired. And--though I didn't watch but have read about--the interview seemed barely any softer on Ford than Peter Mansbridge's was (and that--which I did watch--was disappointingly soft). Quote
jacee Posted December 12, 2013 Report Posted December 12, 2013 (edited) The editors and producers have final say in what gets aired. And--though I didn't watch but have read about--the interview seemed barely any softer on Ford than Peter Mansbridge's was (and that--which I did watch--was disappointingly soft).Seems to me nobody has to ask Ford hard questions: Just put a mike on him and he smears himself. And Doug Ford ... handing out $20 bills ... ? http://ww2.nationalpost.com/m/wp/blog.html?b=news.nationalpost.com/2013/12/12/doug-ford-hands-out-20-bills-to-public-housing-residents-accused-of-vote-buying But I'll give Rob a moment of cute today ... http://ww2.nationalpost.com/m/wp/blog.html?b=news.nationalpost.com/2013/12/11/rob-ford-invites-media-to-house-party-walks-in-on-woman-in-towel-doug-ford-interviews-santa-statue Torontos mayor was invited into a mans apartment, only to have a woman in a towel scream and the mayor back away sheepishly.Buddy, Im in enough trouble already! Ford said to the man, according to reporters tweets. Edited December 13, 2013 by jacee Quote
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