betsy Posted December 5, 2012 Report Posted December 5, 2012 Through the years I've watched political shows, Martha Hall Findley had always behaved in a dignified manner. I find her articulate, intelligent and principled. With her experience on top of that, she'd be a viable alternative for me. I'm hoping to see her as the leader of the Liberal Party. Quote
wyly Posted December 5, 2012 Report Posted December 5, 2012 so was robert stanfield but it didn't do him any good...she's has no attraction/charisma, that shouldn't be a factor but it is...for canadians to elect the first women as PM she needs to be a lot better than the male options... Quote “Conservatives are not necessarily stupid, but most stupid people are conservatives.”- John Stuart Mill
Moonbox Posted December 5, 2012 Report Posted December 5, 2012 I would vote for her in a heartbeat from what I've seen so far. I'd take her over Harper, Trudeau and any of the other clowns out there. Quote "A man is no more entitled to an opinion for which he cannot account than he is for a pint of beer for which he cannot pay" - Anonymous
Merlin Posted December 5, 2012 Report Posted December 5, 2012 She's reasonable but I'm not sure she has the political experience. Only an MP for 4 years. But I dig her so she may be the dark horse. Quote
Sleipnir Posted December 6, 2012 Report Posted December 6, 2012 With her experience on top of that, she'd be a viable alternative for me. I'm hoping to see her as the leader of the Liberal Party. Same here. Quote "All you need in this life is ignorance and confidence; then success is sure." - Mark Twain
Moonbox Posted December 6, 2012 Report Posted December 6, 2012 Experience as an MP isn't really a quality I cherish in my leaders. The lifetime public servants, IMO, are often the worst people to have running the show. They're as often as not out of touch morons who left the real world and how it works behind sometimes decades ago. Quote "A man is no more entitled to an opinion for which he cannot account than he is for a pint of beer for which he cannot pay" - Anonymous
betsy Posted December 6, 2012 Author Report Posted December 6, 2012 She's well-rounded in experience, from what I heard. Not all necessarily politcs....but that's a plus for her, not a minus. Quote
Michael Hardner Posted December 6, 2012 Report Posted December 6, 2012 Her announcement. She actually seemed nervous... maybe that's a good thing - I have had too much 'slick' lately. http://2013.marthaha....ca/why-martha/ How about something everybody can relate to: I have three kids. I’ve worked as a waitress and in construction. I had huge student loans. I care about water quality. As a business person, I know that scary feeling when the numbers sometimes gets close. I’ve had to lug work home from the office so I could do dinner and homework with the kids, only to nod off – many times — at the computer late at night. So, we have Justin Trudeau, an Astronaut, and this. I would pick this, but who knows. Quote Looks like someone has a new patronizing catch phrase ! Michael Hardner
Moonbox Posted December 6, 2012 Report Posted December 6, 2012 She strikes me as a common-sense person, and that's enough for me to want to vote for her. I could get behind this woman from what I know (no pun intended). Quote "A man is no more entitled to an opinion for which he cannot account than he is for a pint of beer for which he cannot pay" - Anonymous
betsy Posted December 7, 2012 Author Report Posted December 7, 2012 She's said to be more conservative in some of her views....that should place her in the center. Another plus. Quote
PIK Posted December 7, 2012 Report Posted December 7, 2012 I like her myself, but I will be voting harper. Quote Toronto, like a roach motel in the middle of a pretty living room.
Topaz Posted December 8, 2012 Report Posted December 8, 2012 I'm surprised she didn't want to run for the mayor of TO. Quote
betsy Posted December 8, 2012 Author Report Posted December 8, 2012 I like her myself, but I will be voting harper. Oh...I'm still a conservative, and still with Harper, don't get me wrong. It's nice to know though that should the Liberals win in the next election....with Martha Hall Findley at the helm, it wouldn't be too hard a pill to swallow. Whereas if it's going to be young Trudeau - boy, I'd probably be depressed for months! Quote
Newfoundlander Posted December 8, 2012 Report Posted December 8, 2012 She's arguably the candidate with the best experience and is a very strong speaker. Her major issue right now is her lack of name recognition throughout the country, if she can build her profile over the next few months she could replace Marc Garneau as Trudeau's main challenger. Quote
kward Posted December 8, 2012 Report Posted December 8, 2012 Experience as an MP isn't really a quality I cherish in my leaders. The lifetime public servants, IMO, are often the worst people to have running the show. They're as often as not out of touch morons who left the real world and how it works behind sometimes decades ago. +1million Quote
kward Posted December 8, 2012 Report Posted December 8, 2012 She's said to be more conservative in some of her views....that should place her in the center. Another plus. Yes, because we wouldn't want to elect someone that actually stood for something. Quote
betsy Posted December 8, 2012 Author Report Posted December 8, 2012 (edited) She's arguably the candidate with the best experience and is a very strong speaker. Her major issue right now is her lack of name recognition throughout the country, if she can build her profile over the next few months she could replace Marc Garneau as Trudeau's main challenger. I noticed the first time she was interviewed by this anchorperson after she announced her candidacy - I find it insulting the way she was being taken as a "joke" by that Martin guy on CTVnewsnet. Yes, she got to be more prominent. She was diplomatic in showing how she's different from Trudeau, without putting him down - another one of her good point (I can't exactly recall what she said), but she's good at diplomacy. Classy. Edited December 8, 2012 by betsy Quote
kward Posted December 8, 2012 Report Posted December 8, 2012 I noticed the first time she was interviewed by this anchorperson after she announced her candidacy - I find it insulting the way she was being taken as a "joke" by that Martin guy on CTVnewsnet. Yes, she got to be more prominent. She was diplomatic in showing how she's different from Trudeau, without putting him down - another one of her good point (I can't exactly recall what she said), but she's good at diplomacy. Classy. Good at diplomacy is good. Class...I would trade that for backbone any day. Quote
betsy Posted December 8, 2012 Author Report Posted December 8, 2012 (edited) Speaking of Trudeau, one Liberal MP (can't recall who) defended Trudeau's lack of experience by saying Trudeau's well-experienced since he's been around politics since he was born! I guess being born to a political figure count as an experience! So, what are they saying? It's like the Monarchy? Since his dad was a popular PM, he's the heir to the "throne?" His immaturity or lack of experience is pretty much evident with the couple of gaffes he'd made in the past three weeks! He needs more time..... Edited December 8, 2012 by betsy Quote
betsy Posted December 8, 2012 Author Report Posted December 8, 2012 (edited) Good at diplomacy is good. Class...I would trade that for backbone any day. Backbone? Stood for something? Like what? Explain. Edited December 8, 2012 by betsy Quote
kward Posted December 8, 2012 Report Posted December 8, 2012 Backbone? Stood for something? Like what? Explain. You'd mentioned she occupied something near the political centre. So, that basically means she personally will fight for whatever's politically expedient - instead of something that actually means anything. Which is fine by her as long as taxpayers keep forking over to her 158 thou a year plus benefits, pension, etc. Hmm...$158 000 a year just to keep racking up the national debt. Great work if you can get it. Quote
Newfoundlander Posted December 9, 2012 Report Posted December 9, 2012 I noticed the first time she was interviewed by this anchorperson after she announced her candidacy - I find it insulting the way she was being taken as a "joke" by that Martin guy on CTVnewsnet. Yes, she got to be more prominent. She was diplomatic in showing how she's different from Trudeau, without putting him down - another one of her good point (I can't exactly recall what she said), but she's good at diplomacy. Classy. Supposedly her saying that she is well experienced is a snub at Trudeau. Quote
betsy Posted December 10, 2012 Author Report Posted December 10, 2012 You'd mentioned she occupied something near the political centre. So, that basically means she personally will fight for whatever's politically expedient - instead of something that actually means anything. Which is fine by her as long as taxpayers keep forking over to her 158 thou a year plus benefits, pension, etc. Hmm...$158 000 a year just to keep racking up the national debt. Great work if you can get it. She's said to be fiscally conservative. Speaking of political expediency - Trudeau did a good flipflop with the gun registry. Quote
Newfoundlander Posted December 10, 2012 Report Posted December 10, 2012 (edited) You'd mentioned she occupied something near the political centre. So, that basically means she personally will fight for whatever's politically expedient - instead of something that actually means anything. Which is fine by her as long as taxpayers keep forking over to her 158 thou a year plus benefits, pension, etc. Hmm...$158 000 a year just to keep racking up the national debt. Great work if you can get it. She's said to be fiscally conservative. Speaking of political expediency - Trudeau did a good flipflop with the gun registry. She has also criticized the party for not standing for anything and as said they need to take clear position whether it upsets some people or not. A party & a person can be centrist and still stand for things. Edited December 11, 2012 by Newfoundlander Quote
betsy Posted December 11, 2012 Author Report Posted December 11, 2012 She has also criticized the party for not standing for anything and as said they need to take cle position whether it upsets some people or not. A party & a person can be centrist and still stand for things. She makes good sense. She's the kind of leader the party needs, imho. The Liberal Party is heavily ciricized by the media for having lost its way....no clear position. Quote
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