Justin Trudeau will run for the Liberal Leadership

[Michael Hardner]

I just heard this on CBC Radio One.

My thoughts on this are that it's a bad idea for the Liberals, that he may actually win, and that it may set the Liberals back another 5 to 10 years.

It's a bad idea because Justin hasn't come up with admirable ideas, that I have seen. He's had admirable opinions - if you're a liberal, that is - and when I hear people support him, it seems to be because he is a left-centre liberal with heartfelt opinions. What else, I wonder, makes him leadership material ? Oh, right... his pedigree.

He may actually win the leadership because he seems to have the touchstones of marketability that wins elections: good looking, young, and fluffy he's the theoretical antidote to our current PM: stuffy, middle-aged, experienced and able.

It would set the Liberals back because they may give him 2 elections to try to win: the first one would be a loss, but it would be chalked up to his youth - assuming he didn't completely drop the ball - and he would continue forward rebuilding the party.

Please, Liberals, the time is now to revitalize. Stephen Harper is finding new ways to move to the middle, and is using a full suite of ideas (stimulus package, Euro free trade) - don't counter this with a Teen Beat cover boy...

[Michael Hardner]

http://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/story/2012/09/26/justin-trudeau-liberal-leadership.html

Quebec MP Justin Trudeau is expected to officially announce early next week that he will run for the leadership of the Liberal Party.

Trudeau is expected to make the announcement at a news conference in his Montreal riding of Papineau on Tuesday.

[bleeding heart]

Please, Liberals, the time is now to revitalize. Stephen Harper is finding new ways to move to the middle, and is using a full suite of ideas (stimulus package, Euro free trade) - don't counter this with a Teen Beat cover boy...

I'm inclined to agree. Harper comes across as serious, workmanlike, and comfortable with political battle.

(This is exactly why Mulcair was chosen, in my view: Harper himself determined the NDP pick.)

Trudeau? It's less clear.

Edited September 26, 2012 by bleeding heart

[Michael Hardner]

I would love for there to be a second Pierre Trudeau appear today - someone with vision, leadership, and charisma to win who has a clear idea with how to address the particular economic problems and environmental problems of today.

[Fletch 27]

Can he spell "Liberal"?

[madmax]

I'm inclined to agree. Harper comes across as serious, workmanlike, and comfortable with political battle.

(This is exactly why Mulcair was chosen, in my view: Harper himself determined the NDP pick.)

Trudeau? It's less clear.

Never thought of it like that. I think you nailed it. Harper by being Harper put New Democrats in the postion to pick someone similar to Harpers style, vs someone with more populist or left leaning appeal, be it Cullen or Topp that didn't have that style of leadership.

I think Trudeau has the Leadership race locked up.

[Newfoundlander]

It was mentioned during the NDP leadership that Mulcair didn't come out with many policy ideas, in my opinion it's not necessarily the place up decide policy.

I think it may be a good thing for the Liberals to have a leader who hasn't release a ton of ideas him or herself. Ignatieff's writings and comments came back to haunt him.

Yesterday's poll showing how popular his father remains also bodes well for him. He wouldn't be my pick for Prime Minister but he could revive the Liberals.

[Newfoundlander]

Can he spell "Liberal"?

Doubt it! It's not like he has two degrees...

[Michael Hardner]

I think Trudeau has the Leadership race locked up.

Mark Carney:

Mark Carney was born in Fort Smith, Northwest Territories. His father Bob was a high school principal there, and later a professor of education at the University of Alberta in Edmonton, Alberta, where the family moved when Carney was six years old. Carney has three siblings — older brother Sean, younger brother Brian and sister Brenda. His mother Verlie was an elementary school teacher before having her children. Carney and his brothers all studied at Harvard University.[4]

Carney completed a bachelor's degree in economics from Harvard in 1988. He later attended Nuffield College, Oxford, where he received a master's in economics in 1993 and a doctorate in economics in 1995.[5]

Before joining the Canadian public service, Carney spent thirteen years with Goldman Sachs in its London, Tokyo, New York and Toronto offices. His progressively more senior positions included co-head of sovereign risk; executive director, emerging debt capital markets; and managing director, investment banking. He worked on South Africa's post-apartheid venture into international bond markets, and was involved in Goldman's work with the 1998 Russian financial crisis.[4]

Between November 2004 and October 2007 Carney was senior associate deputy minister, and G7 deputy, at the Canadian Department of Finance. He served under Liberal finance minister Ralph Goodale and Conservative finance minister Jim Flaherty. During that time Carney oversaw the government's controversial plan to tax income trusts at source.[7]

Carney was also the "point man" in the government's profitable sale of its 19 percent stake in Petro-Canada.[8][9]

Justin Trudeau, on the other hand, is cute.

Trudeau chaired the Katimavik youth program, a project started by longtime family friend Jacques Hébert, from 2002 to 2006.[18] In 2002–03, he was a panelist on CBC Radio's Canada Reads series, where he championed The Colony of Unrequited Dreams by Wayne Johnston.[19] Trudeau and his brother Alexandre inaugurated the Trudeau Centre for Peace and Conflict Studies at the University of Toronto in April 2004; the centre later became a part of the Munk School of Global Affairs.[20] In 2006, he hosted the Giller Prize for literature.[21]

Trudeau has a Bachelor of Arts degree in literature from McGill University and a Bachelor of Education degree from the University of British Columbia. After graduation, he worked as a social studies and French teacher in Sir Winston Churchill Secondary School in Vancouver, British Columbia.[10] From 2002 to 2004, he studied engineering at the Université de Montréal.[11] He also started a Master of Arts degree in Environmental Geography at McGill University before suspending his program to seek public office.[12]

[madmax]

I would love for there to be a second Pierre Trudeau appear today - someone with vision, leadership, and charisma to win who has a clear idea with how to address the particular economic problems and environmental problems of today.

The Last leader to hold those credentials would be Jack Layton. I don't think there is going to be another PET anymore then there is going to be another Layton.

I would consider it wrong to weigh this upon on a new leader, and even moreso to hold the younger Trudeau to such a standard.

PET, like him or hate him, their isn't going to be another one on the horizon anytime soon.

And only people in their late 40s and up even remember that era.

[Fletch 27]

His credentials sound like he should be a supply-teacher for a high-school instead of a member of parliament! Just look how far that last name got him to date! Never mind the complete lack of policy or ideas! Good for him

[Topaz]

I have mixed feeling with Justin jumping into the leaders now but if he thinks he's ready, so be it. I don't expect Justin to be like his dad, I expect him to be Justin and I hope other people don't, either. He has a good shot of winning the leadersship but it all depends on the party. The NDP have a good leader and if Justin is elected leader, then that put Harper is a bad situation in Quebec and he's already losing his Reform base with retirements and who knows, maybe the old PC will return.

[Boges]

<------My response to this news

[Tilter]

I just heard this on CBC Radio One.

My thoughts on this are that it's a bad idea for the Liberals, that he may actually win, and that it may set the Liberals back another 5 to 10 years.

It's a bad idea because Justin hasn't come up with admirable ideas, that I have seen. He's had admirable opinions - if you're a liberal, that is - and when I hear people support him, it seems to be because he is a left-centre liberal with heartfelt opinions. What else, I wonder, makes him leadership material ? Oh, right... his pedigree.

He may actually win the leadership because he seems to have the touchstones of marketability that wins elections: good looking, young, and fluffy he's the theoretical antidote to our current PM: stuffy, middle-aged, experienced and able.

It would set the Liberals back because they may give him 2 elections to try to win: the first one would be a loss, but it would be chalked up to his youth - assuming he didn't completely drop the ball - and he would continue forward rebuilding the party.

Please, Liberals, the time is now to revitalize. Stephen Harper is finding new ways to move to the middle, and is using a full suite of ideas (stimulus package, Euro free trade) - don't counter this with a Teen Beat cover boy...

Oh--- wow, what beautiful news --- fantastic --- whooda thot that that great experienced man would consider giving Canadians another chance to see another Phideaux Trudeaux battling for the almost defunct liberals. How gracious can a person of his great stature be

Edited September 26, 2012 by Tilter

[August1991]

Justin Trudeau is the Ted Kennedy of Canadian politics. Or as Jimmy Carter famously said, "If Kennedy runs, I'll whip his ass."

Trudeau Jnr will split the anti-Harper vote, ensuring that Harper gets another majority.

[Michael Hardner]

Justin Trudeau is the Ted Kennedy of Canadian politics. Or as Jimmy Carter famously said, "If Kennedy runs, I'll whip his ass."

Trudeau Jnr will split the anti-Harper vote, ensuring that Harper gets another majority.

I concur with your point. Judging by early excitement among my facebook friends (not scientific... ) he will ignite liberal excitement like a one-off firecracker, then will play out my metaphor in the election.

[PIK]

Mark Carney:

Justin Trudeau, on the other hand, is cute.

LOL Why would he give up the gig he has now to run for the libs?

[Fletch 27]

GEnetics Pik, Its all about having "Power" for any liberal. The sheer THOUGHT of dictating like his father did is far to great.. The Liberal gene (located in the DNA string just above the sphincter gene and below the rectum chromasome) is far to great in this one...

LOL Why would he give up the gig he has now to run for the libs?

[PIK]

GEnetics Pik, Its all about having "Power" for any liberal. The sheer THOUGHT of dictating like his father did is far to great.. The Liberal gene (located in the DNA string just above the sphincter gene and below the rectum chromasome) is far to great in this one...

I meant carney, I forgot to get rid of the trudeau reference.

[Fletch 27]

Carney would be great but he's far to fiscally responsible and honourable to run for the Libs. And he's a Conservative..

I meant carney, I forgot to get rid of the trudeau reference.

[Newfoundlander]

Justin Trudeau is the Ted Kennedy of Canadian politics. Or as Jimmy Carter famously said, "If Kennedy runs, I'll whip his ass."

Trudeau Jnr will split the anti-Harper vote, ensuring that Harper gets another majority.

I guess Layton should have never run for NDP leader then?

[Newfoundlander]

Carney would be great but he's far to fiscally responsible and honourable to run for the Libs. And he's a Conservative..

Yes because the Liberals did such a horrible job being fiscally conservative in the 90's, unlike Harper now.

[Fletch 27]

I think your forgetting it was your "coallition of the mindless" that threatened to call an election and hold Canadians hostage unless Harper dolled out the Billions of Dollars.. The screaming of the NDP for Federal dollars to keep the "Big 3 alive".. Um yea, Do i need to call up the Millions and kzillions in th esponsorship scandal? Ta-Dah! YEs, Indeed they did

Yes because the Liberals did such a horrible job being fiscally conservative in the 90's, unlike Harper now.

[PIK]

Yes because the Liberals did such a horrible job being fiscally conservative in the 90's, unlike Harper now.

How much money did harper have to spend to fix up old problems the libs ignored. Miltary , isotopes....

[Newfoundlander]

I think your forgetting it was your "coallition of the mindless" that threatened to call an election and hold Canadians hostage unless Harper dolled out the Billions of Dollars.. The screaming of the NDP for Federal dollars to keep the "Big 3 alive".. Um yea, Do i need to call up the Millions and kzillions in th esponsorship scandal? Ta-Dah! YEs, Indeed they did

You must stimulate the economy during recessions. Harper didn't do it properly in IMO and isn't doing enough now to balance the budget.