Canada Does It Again

[Guest Derek L]

I thought you might like it. Old 8mm I guess.

After watching it a second time, with some pausing and a brief reference the other two Sea Kings, RCN # 4010 (later Stinger (12)410) and RCN # 4060 (Stinger (12)406 have been outed…………Stinger 410 was a part of the first Persian Excursion and is still flying. As to Stinger 406, she was fitted with a FLIR sometime in the 90s (after I went West), has been to the Gulf, and is now with 406 squadron, training the next generation.

As to the Trackers the video mentions a Caribbean cruise in ‘65, which after just getting off the horn with my father, I learned he was posted ashore with VU 32 squadron (Training and utility), hence missing that cruise and packed it in later that year………As to the Trackers themselves, I’ve been assured he’s probably flown most of 880 squadron’s Trackers, in both the left and right seat……..

[Guest Derek L]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a1O2QC4PO4c&feature=related

I came West shortly after MARLANT swapped Huron to MARPAC for HMCS Gatineau………If Saddam had of been a tougher nut to crack in ‘91, likely would of went with Huron (she still went post conflict), HMCS Provider and one of the older steamers…….Shaved off my semi official Robin Olds ‘stache for nothing…………Huron’s early demise, despite the RUMINT of crewing shortages, was namely due to the lacklustre TRUMP refit……..Like Joan Rivers post plastic surgery, Huron was never quite right again…….

The Good ole days:

Edited July 15, 2012 by Derek L

[bush_cheney2004]

If Saddam had of been a tougher nut to crack in ‘91, likely would of went with Huron (she still went post conflict),

Apparently some of Huron's crew visited the Road to Hell:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y-1Zrjt6JHw&feature=related

[Guest Derek L]

Apparently some of Huron's crew visited the Road to Hell:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y-1Zrjt6JHw&feature=related

You bet they did………Huron was the Pacific fleet’s flagship, and no doubt, post war, her crew members provided logistic support to the First Canadian field Hospital, which was attached to the British Armoured Division…….Her sister, HMCS Athabaskan, along with HMCS Terra Nova (post Gulf “dirty” refit) and HMCS Protecteur played a more “active role”, screening the Battlewagons mind you......Silkworms and all

Edited July 15, 2012 by Derek L

[DogOnPorch]

After watching it a second time, with some pausing and a brief reference the other two Sea Kings, RCN # 4010 (later Stinger (12)410) and RCN # 4060 (Stinger (12)406 have been outed…………Stinger 410 was a part of the first Persian Excursion and is still flying. As to Stinger 406, she was fitted with a FLIR sometime in the 90s (after I went West), has been to the Gulf, and is now with 406 squadron, training the next generation.

As to the Trackers the video mentions a Caribbean cruise in ‘65, which after just getting off the horn with my father, I learned he was posted ashore with VU 32 squadron (Training and utility), hence missing that cruise and packed it in later that year………As to the Trackers themselves, I’ve been assured he’s probably flown most of 880 squadron’s Trackers, in both the left and right seat……..

I love the sound of those piston Trackers. They were a very common sight (along with the Conair A-26s) around YXS most Summers.

Not a Tracker...but i recall it was an excellent drop.

Better angle...

Edited July 15, 2012 by DogOnPorch

[Guest Derek L]

What we’ll likely replace the Auroras with:

Boeing P-8

The per plane cost will likely be double what we’ll end up paying for the F-35 & Cyclone.

And not to be out done by Boeing, Lockheed is offering a cheaper alternative:

This might not actually be a bad idea………….Common airframe with the J-Hercs in service with the RCAF, which would translate into operational & support savings………Can be modified to be a recipient of aerial refuelling, hence an increase of range, which could also be extended with similar mods as the USCG’s aircraft……….We already operate our current and past Hercules aircraft from rough gravel strips in the arctic……..The C-130J would also make a suitable replacement for FWSAR, which would further compound the savings……….Lockheed might actually have another winner here.

Edited July 15, 2012 by Derek L

[Guest Derek L]

Just wanted to give the crew of the HMCS Victoria, currently over at RIMPAC, a big Bravo Zulu on breaking their "fish" cherry:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OfgecbxU5cs&feature=player_embedded#!

Edited July 19, 2012 by Derek L

[westguy]

You can't make this stuff up. Yet again, Canada's procurement of rotary winged aircraft is going to crash and burn in grand style:

"This is an example of how procurement can go badly wrong. This is the worst procurement in the history of Canada, including the $500-million cancellation costs that are attached to the Maritime helicopter program and then the costs of further maintenance to fly 50-year-old helicopters. They're going to go right out of aviation service and into the museum in Ottawa. And that's not a joke."

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/nova-scotia/story/2012/07/10/ns-helicopter-deal-mackay.html

What is it about helicopters that vexes Canada so? Seriously....

the decisions to which you refer were made by the Chretien govt.

[Guest Derek L]

the decisions to which you refer were made by the Chretien govt.

The previous PC Government was not much better.

[The_Squid]

And this government has shown that it cannot even buy some trucks....

[Guest Derek L]

And this government has shown that it cannot even buy some trucks....

No, the Mandarins, both civilian and military can’t buy trucks under the procurement rules established and added to by previous Governments, both PC and Liberal, for decades.

[cybercoma]

No, the Mandarins, both civilian and military can’t buy trucks under the procurement rules established and added to by previous Governments, both PC and Liberal, for decades.

No, the bureaucrats don't get a blank cheque. No matter how much you would love that, yet turn around and complain about public debt and high taxes.

[Guest Derek L]

No, the bureaucrats don't get a blank cheque. No matter how much you would love that, yet turn around and complain about public debt and high taxes.

Where did I say I'd love that?

[cybercoma]

Where did I say I'd love that?

Well then what the hell are you arguing? The bureaucrats picked a number, it was approved and now they can't meet that number. They didn't pull it out of their asses. Why don't they have this equipment yet? Why didn't they open bids? Just what the hell is going down at the DND? They need to get their crap together and the VP in charge of that division of the government (Peter MacKay) needs to be hung by his toenails.

[WWWTT]

No, the bureaucrats don't get a blank cheque. No matter how much you would love that, yet turn around and complain about public debt and high taxes.

When people start putting more importance on weapons instead of education,health care and infrastructure and when we are at no risk of invasion,you really have to start questioning the mental stability of such individuals.

WWWTT

[Guest Derek L]

Well then what the hell are you arguing? The bureaucrats picked a number, it was approved and now they can't meet that number. They didn't pull it out of their asses. Why don't they have this equipment yet? Why didn't they open bids? Just what the hell is going down at the DND? They need to get their crap together and the VP in charge of that division of the government (Peter MacKay) needs to be hung by his toenails.

That the procurement process has always been broken.

[bush_cheney2004]

That the procurement process has always been broken.

Apparently so, regardless of ruling party. The actual deliverables are secondary to a bizarre internecine game between labour interests, regionalism, bean counters, and isolationists.

Q: What's funnier than paying $430 for a mil-spec hammer?

A: Paying $430 and not getting any hammers!

[Guest Derek L]

Apparently so, regardless of ruling party. The actual deliverables are secondary to a bizarre internecine game between labour interests, regionalism, bean counters, and isolationists.

Q: What's funnier than paying $430 for a mil-spec hammer?

A: Paying $430 and not getting any hammers!

And that’s the way it was……….Our illustrious former leader, Pierre Elliot Trudeau, just prior to winning the Liberal leadership (and as Justice Minister) was the best at obtaining pork……We over purchased on the CF-5 Freedom Fighter, which just happened to be produced in the neighbouring riding as PETs…….Funny that the RCAF only wanted ~60-70 F-4E, but got instead over 130 Freedom Fighters, of which 1/3rd weren’t needed a put into storage on completion………AFAIK, we still have a portion of the later upgraded ones in storage in southern Ontario.

[Army Guy]

When people start putting more importance on weapons instead of education,health care and infrastructure and when we are at no risk of invasion,you really have to start questioning the mental stability of such individuals.

who is saying that, where would you rate our education, and our health care world wide, and where would you rate our military. And if it bothers you that much then change it, run for office, cut the military off totally i mean it does not bother you that Uncle Sam pays for and does most of it any way. Your happy free loading, but my bet is when your freedoms are threaten your the first to start whinning.....Do you even know the condition of our military, it's size, it's role.

[cybercoma]

who is saying that

When the government is cutting and slashing everywhere, then blowing up their spending on the military, they may not be saying it but that's exactly what they're doing.

[Army Guy]

When the government is cutting and slashing everywhere, then blowing up their spending on the military, they may not be saying it but that's exactly what they're doing.

I think you should recheck your facts again, the military, is being slashed,and projects have been canceled or put on hold. No new projects have been announced, and the ones that have been announce years back are still years from completion,

[Moonbox]

I am late to this thread and don't even really care about the discussion, but let me take this time to state how much I like the thread title and subject line. Well done BC. That is a charming pun.