CBC cuts 650 jobs and wants to advertise now

[kraychik]

I read that 64% of the CBC's budget is from the Feds. Now I've been told none of the sports get gumint money. So Don Cherry's wages don't come from Ottawa. But I'd venture people like Strombo and Jian Ghomeshi's do.

Astral's beef is that they're playing both sides of the game. If they want to be fully funded by the government then don't show ads. Like TVO, but now CBC 2 wants to compete with them in ad sales. I'm sure they still get some of their money from the government though. As I said it's an unfair advantage.

The big problem with the CBC we don't know exactly where the government money goes. On how much of it actually goes to fulfilling their nebulous mandate.

Don Cherry would be still be successful in the private sector. George Stroumboulopoulos and Jian Gomeshi would not survive in the private sector.

[guyser]

George Stroumboulopoulos and Jian Gomeshi would not survive in the private sector.

really? YOu want to match your 'private sector' success w Geo Strombo's ?

Heres a hint, you'd lose, horribly.Actually, you already lost.

Unless you have, hosted 10 shows, of which only two are on the CBC.

Too funny. Typical righty**** shooting his mouth off without a shred of knowledge.

(***** since every ill is a lefty prob, then righty is the 'shoot mouth off'whilst looking dumb equal)

Edited July 9, 2012 by guyser

[Boges]

really? YOu want to match your 'private sector' success w Geo Strombo's ?

Heres a hint, you'd lose, horribly.Actually, you already lost.

Unless you have, hosted 10 shows, of which only two are on the CBC.

Too funny. Typical righty**** shooting his mouth off without a shred of knowledge.

(***** since every ill is a lefty prob, then righty is the 'shoot mouth off'whilst looking dumb equal)

What are some of these shows? Were these Post-Much Music?

[guyser]

What are some of these shows? Were these Post-Much Music?

He did an American reality show (that bombed) called The One. He was also on many stations short list to move down to the US but he turned them down , wanting instead to work in Canada. (Prior to his current show)

He hosted a nationally syndicated , radio show(s) for many years.

He hosted 4 shows on Much.

And finally his two shows on CBC, The Hour and a special re The 10 Greatest Canucks. Throw in the hosting duties for Juno or Gemini (cant recall) and there ya go. (CBC tends to recycle so I dont put much stock in the hosting of award shows, but they are a well paying gig)

So , the point is he has made a lot of dough in the private sector, contrary to our new resident bloviating sillyness. Funny how he seems to have lost this thread. But I too would skunk away from the odour of his post.

Edited July 10, 2012 by guyser

[kraychik]

really? YOu want to match your 'private sector' success w Geo Strombo's ?

Heres a hint, you'd lose, horribly.Actually, you already lost.

Unless you have, hosted 10 shows, of which only two are on the CBC.

Too funny. Typical righty**** shooting his mouth off without a shred of knowledge.

(***** since every ill is a lefty prob, then righty is the 'shoot mouth off'whilst looking dumb equal)

George Stroumboulopoulos' political shows would not survive in the private sector. His show The Hour only exists due to the federal government's underwriting of the CBC with taxpayer money. I should have clarified that.

[kraychik]

He did an American reality show (that bombed) called The One. He was also on many stations short list to move down to the US but he turned them down , wanting instead to work in Canada. (Prior to his current show)

He hosted a nationally syndicated , radio show(s) for many years.

He hosted 4 shows on Much.

And finally his two shows on CBC, The Hour and a special re The 10 Greatest Canucks. Throw in the hosting duties for Juno or Gemini (cant recall) and there ya go. (CBC tends to recycle so I dont put much stock in the hosting of award shows, but they are a well paying gig)

So , the point is he has made a lot of dough in the private sector, contrary to our new resident bloviating sillyness. Funny how he seems to have lost this thread. But I too would skunk away from the odour of his post.

The Hour would not survive in the private sector. More broadly, George Stroumboulopoulos could not survive in the private sector as a political commentator or newsperson.

[guyser]

The Hour would not survive in the private sector. More broadly, George Stroumboulopoulos could not survive in the private sector as a political commentator or newsperson.

But but but...you said he wouldnt survive, now it is his show,

Tomorrow you'll say guys w long names dont make it in private sector. And then youll be proven wrong on that too.

I dont know....you could just say " I was wrong" and move one. But noo...

The fact is buttercup, you talked out your butt and have been pantsed. GS has done far more than you ever will and jealousy is bitch. Have a nice day

Edited July 10, 2012 by guyser

[kraychik]

But but but...you said he wouldnt survive, now it is his show,

Tomorrow you'll say guys w long names dont make it in private sector. And then youll be proven wrong on that too.

I dont know....you could just say " I was wrong" and move one. But noo...

The fact is buttercup, you talked out your butt and have been pantsed. GS has done far more than you ever will and jealousy is bitch. Have a nice day

Considering this is a thread about the CBC and I was also referncing Jian Gomeshi, I thought it was clear that I was speaking about Stroumboulopoulos' career with the CBC, which is primarily his work with The Hour. I am not a leftist, I do not resent successful people. I enjoy seeing people succeed. The politics of envy and jealousy are not a part of political DNA. In the case of Stroumboulopoulos, I just wish he'd make a living in the private sector, and not bleed the taxpayer for content that wouldn't survive without political masterminds funding it.

Edited July 10, 2012 by kraychik

[guyser]

Considering this is a thread about the CBC and I was also referncing Jian Gomeshi, I thought it was clear that I was speaking about Stroumboulopoulos' career with the CBC, which is primarily his work with The Hour.

Dance will ya?

Want to talk about Jian and his accomplishments, once again, far exceeding yours? Why you denigrate those who have succeeded long before they hit the CBC is your problem.

Jian has a wonderful career and makes lots of dough. Your jealousy is palpable

When pantsed one should slink away, but hey, you come on back for more .

I am not a leftist, I do not resent successful people. I enjoy seeing people succeed. The politics of envy and jealousy are not a part of political DNA.

Obviously I hit dead on a nerve. Your post reeks of jealousy , or ignorance, you tell us which.

In the case of Stroumboulopoulos, I just wish he'd make a living in the private sector, and not bleed the taxpayer for content that wouldn't survive without political masterminds funding it.

He made a living in the private sector, pocketed lots of money. Was offered a job with his own show and took it.

Dont be hatin'

[bush_cheney2004]

CBC sinks to new low with Jun Lin parents interview....with commercials!

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/montreal/story/2012/07/16/jun-lin-murder-parents-grief-china.html

[Boges]

Losing the rights to HNIC has obviously really hurt the CBC.

http://www.thestar.com/entertainment/2014/04/08/cbc_faces_more_cuts_this_week_watchdog_warns.html

The CBC will announce additional layoffs and cuts to programming this week, an advocacy group warns.

Ian Morrison, the spokesperson for Friends of Canadian Broadcasting, an independent watchdog group, said a shortfall in advertising revenue will result in cuts to jobs and programming on both the French- and English-language sides of the Canadian broadcaster.

“This is going to damage everything that people see and hear,” said Morrison, citing personal sources.

CBC President Hubert Lacroix is scheduled to announce details of the public broadcaster’s finances at a town hall meeting with employees on Thursday.

“The focus of that meeting will be about financial pressures CBC-Radio Canada is facing, and how we’re going to move forward,” said CBC spokesperson Chuck Thompson. “Beyond that though, I cannot comment any more.”

Under no circumstances should their subsidy be increased because they were outbid by a private media organization that took their #1 rated show away from them.

[overthere]

“This is going to damage everything that people see and hear,” said Morrison, citing personal sources.

This news won't make the slightest bit of difference to anything I see and hear. About the only CBC I watched was HNIC and I'll get the same games on Sportsnet now.

I wonder if Mr Morrisons pources included info he pulled directly from his own colon?

[Topaz]

I knew that the CBC, being a public service, receives its entire zillion dollar budget from tax money, Topaz. However, it's news to me that the other private broadcasters get money too!

How much do they get? Is it anywhere near what the CBC gets? Would it buy a case of beer?

Seriously, I'd like to know. Perhaps you could be good enough to tell me just how much money we're talking here.

When the CEO of Sun TV appeared before a parl.committee, he was asked if he received money from the government and he said yes.

[Boges]

http://www.thestar.com/entertainment/2014/04/10/cbc_employees_brace_for_layoffs.html

CBC News says CBC/Radio Canada is eliminating 657 positions over 2 years.

It's part of $130 million in budget cuts.

The public broadcaster announced Thursday it would no longer compete for the rights to broadcast professional sports and cancelled planned expansions into new regions.

The clawbacks come as a Senate committee calls on the public broadcaster to do more to deliver francophone programming across the country.

Edited April 10, 2014 by Boges

[Black Dog]

I hope they look at this as an opportunity to re-tool the CBC into something that focuses on Canadian cultural programming and news instead of trying to compete with the private sector with garbage like Dragon's Den.

[WestCoastRunner]

Don Cherry would be still be successful in the private sector. George Stroumboulopoulos and Jian Gomeshi would not survive in the private sector.

Stroumboulopoulos worked for CNN on the short-lived series "Stroumboulopoulos," which aired last summer but was not renewed. I hear he will be hosting Saturday night hockey on CBC now.

[eyeball]

In addition to retaining the National, I'd like to see more focus on our economy, our environment, our natural resources and how these interconnect and form such a important part of our culture.

Above all else though I'd like to see a good thorough in depth educational series about our democratic system of governance - it's history, it's present and it's possible future. I trust anyone who makes the oft repeated lament that too many Canadians are ignorant about how our government works would agree that doing something about that should comprise a fundamental part of the CBC's core vision and mission statement. Of course I'm assuming the lament and concern are real and genuine, but if it isn't, then all the more reason why we should do this.

Edited April 10, 2014 by eyeball

[On Guard for Thee]

Please tell me we are not headed down the road to be subjected to the brain dead, commercial laden, short attention span shyte from south of the border. How many more Jerry Springers and Jimmy Swaggarts can we stand?

[bush_cheney2004]

Please tell me we are not headed down the road to be subjected to the brain dead, commercial laden, short attention span shyte from south of the border. How many more Jerry Springers and Jimmy Swaggarts can we stand?

Based on present Canadian audience share of American television programming, lots...lots more. The Liberals cut Canada's state sponsored and controlled broadcaster even more.

Edited April 11, 2014 by bush_cheney2004

[waldo]

Canada's state sponsored and controlled broadcaster even more.

your purposeful wording is noted - once again!

you persist in continuing to label/claim the CBC as being government controlled. You have done this incessantly in spite of your labeling/claim being repeatedly challenged... you have been directly challenged to support your labeling/claim. Unless you're able to update me, my recollection of your last intentional foray into this labeling/claim, was one that had you claiming you supported that label/claim in prior posts. Again, either repeat your support for that label/claim or provide links to your claimed prior posts.

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[bush_cheney2004]

....Again, either repeat your support for that label/claim or provide links to your claimed prior posts.

.

Why ? The "support" is obviously provided above:

"The clawbacks come as a Senate committee calls on the public broadcaster to do more to deliver francophone programming across the country."

Canada's state sponsored and controlled broadcaster will have to do more with less.

[waldo]

nice try! Your ongoing charade has been to imply CBC content is directly and ideologically tied/reflective of the respective ruling government of the day... with the infused bias you (and others) quite "liberally" attach to CBC political coverage. You've never, as I recall, couched your nattering "controlled labeling" within the confines of the Broadcasing Act.

on edit: more pointedly, perhaps you'd like to offer a/the distinctions you hold between "Canadian government control of the CBC" and "American government control of U.S. public broadcasting", vis-a-vis American government funding and content control per legislation through the Corporation for Public Broadcasting... public broadcasting of televison and radio that reaches 98% of the American populace.

Edited April 11, 2014 by waldo

[bush_cheney2004]

Off topic....the scope and breadth of CBC government control has been discussed in other threads (e.g. CRTC, CanCon rules, bilingual programming, etc.). Many Canadians actually advocate for a PBS funding model that relies far less on government funding and more public / membership support and corporate sponsorships for local stations and programming.

Canada has a state broadcaster...regardless of ruling party....and all the baggage that entails.

Edited April 11, 2014 by bush_cheney2004

[waldo]

Off topic....the scope and breadth of CBC government control has been discussed in other threads (e.g. CRTC, CanCon rules, bilingual programming, etc.).

apparently so "off topic" that you have to purposely repeat the "government controlled" labeling... over, and over, and over again. And, again, you're now wildly reaching for cover away from your real/prior implications of government imposed political ideological bias in CBC content.

Canada has a state broadcaster...regardless of ruling party....and all the baggage that entails.

baggage? I'll presume on your claimed baggage... in my prior post, I pointedly asked you to provide "baggage distinction". You refused. I pointedly asked you to provide 'distinctions you hold between Canadian government control of the CBC" and "American government control of U.S. public broadcasting", vis-a-vis American government funding and content control per legislation through the Corporation for Public Broadcasting... public broadcasting of televison and radio that reaches 98% of the American populace.

there must be some distinction to press you forward in continuing to natter on about "Canadian government control of the CBC".

[waldo]

Canada has a state broadcaster...

nice loaded phrasing there, hey! But no... the CBC... is a public broadcaster. From a few posts back, per your own provided link that referenced Canada's Broadcasting Act:

"(l) the Canadian Broadcasting Corporation, as the national public broadcaster, should provide radio and television services incorporating a wide range of programming that informs, enlightens and entertains;"

why... that's comparitively like the U.S. Congressional legislation that mandates the U.S. Corporation for Public Broadcasting... you know, the U.S. state corporation funding/controlling U.S. public telecommunications.