stopstaaron Posted March 27, 2012 Report Share Posted March 27, 2012 "It" is a person, just like you. Are you an "It"? There was a Cousin Itt many years ago....before your time. I really don't care what I'm called. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bush_cheney2004 Posted March 27, 2012 Author Report Share Posted March 27, 2012 I really don't care what I'm called. Great, but other people may not be as flexible. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stopstaaron Posted March 27, 2012 Report Share Posted March 27, 2012 Great, but other people may not be as flexible. So they are supposed to change the rules just for that person? That is being too politically correct Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jacee Posted March 27, 2012 Report Share Posted March 27, 2012 So they are supposed to change the rules just for that person? That is being too politically correct I'm sure it will occur to a transgender male - a "maturally born female - that he can enter the contest. Then what are they gonna do ! I object to your derogatory use of the word "it". Perhaps this will be the challenge that finally blows such stupid pageants away. Good riddance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stopstaaron Posted March 27, 2012 Report Share Posted March 27, 2012 I'm sure it will occur to a transgender male - a "maturally born female - that he can enter the contest. Then what are they gonna do ! I object to your derogatory use of the word "it". Perhaps this will be the challenge that finally blows such stupid pageants away. Good riddance. They should have their own pageants. They probably already do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stopstaaron Posted March 27, 2012 Report Share Posted March 27, 2012 I will stop calling the person an it" but will not consider that person a female Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moonlight Graham Posted March 27, 2012 Report Share Posted March 27, 2012 he/she has horrible legs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Black Dog Posted March 27, 2012 Report Share Posted March 27, 2012 I will stop calling the person an it" but will not consider that person a female But she is a female. And you're an ass. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
g_bambino Posted March 27, 2012 Report Share Posted March 27, 2012 (edited) But she is a female. But never had most of the requisite parts to be considered one... [ed.: c/e] Edited March 27, 2012 by g_bambino Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stopstaaron Posted March 27, 2012 Report Share Posted March 27, 2012 But she is a female. And you're an ass. Not according to the persons birth records Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stopstaaron Posted March 27, 2012 Report Share Posted March 27, 2012 (edited) But she is a female. And you're an ass. so you would date this person?! and possibly have sex with a male who turned themselves into a female?! highly unlikely Edited March 27, 2012 by stopstaaron Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jacee Posted March 27, 2012 Report Share Posted March 27, 2012 But never had most of the requisite parts to be considered one... [ed.: c/e] We all have the parts to be either male or female. Whether we develop into one or the other is hormonal and can be changed. Sometimes nature gets it wrong, and it can be corrected. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stopstaaron Posted March 27, 2012 Report Share Posted March 27, 2012 (edited) We all have the parts to be either male or female. Whether we develop into one or the other is hormonal and can be changed. Sometimes nature gets it wrong, and it can be corrected. That doesn't give that person the right to enter any pageant they want. Rules are there for a reason. That person LIED on their application knowing full well they did not meet the requirements to enter this privately funded competition. That is the bottom line. This is not a government funded event, They make their own rules The charter does not apply here Edited March 27, 2012 by stopstaaron Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jacee Posted March 27, 2012 Report Share Posted March 27, 2012 (edited) so you would date this person?! and possibly have sex with a male who turned themselves into a female?! highly unlikely Oh I think I see your problem: Mis Universe Canada should be sexually attractive to you, but she's not f***able enough for you. The pageant is ostensibly about exterior physical beauty, not sexual gratification. If you're not attracted to her, use the picture of another contestant for your 'gratification'. You've just clarified why pageants are stupid crap. Edited March 27, 2012 by jacee Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bonam Posted March 27, 2012 Report Share Posted March 27, 2012 We all have the parts to be either male or female. Whether we develop into one or the other is hormonal and can be changed. Sometimes nature gets it wrong, and it can be corrected. Whether an individual is male or female is a genetic difference. Hormone therapy won't let a female grow male reproductive organs, or vice versa, that can only be done with surgery. Yes, people can be modified, altering their body chemistry, adding and removing various organs, to make some kind of mutilated being that can call themselves the other gender. But it is no more than that, a mutilation. Now, people can do what they want to themselves, they have that freedom in our society. But the rest of us have the freedom to consider or not to consider these surgically modified entities to be the gender they claim to be. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stopstaaron Posted March 27, 2012 Report Share Posted March 27, 2012 Oh I think I see your problem: Mis Universe Canada should be sexually attractive to you, but you but she's not f***able enough for you. The pageant is ostensibly about physical beauty, not sexual gratification. If you're not attracted to her, use the picture of another contestant for your 'gratification'. I expect my Miss Universe Canada to be a woman, not a manwoman, this is not Maury & jerry springer here Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Black Dog Posted March 27, 2012 Report Share Posted March 27, 2012 (edited) Whether an individual is male or female is a genetic difference. Hormone therapy won't let a female grow male reproductive organs, or vice versa, that can only be done with surgery. Yes, people can be modified, altering their body chemistry, adding and removing various organs, to make some kind of mutilated being that can call themselves the other gender. But it is no more than that, a mutilation. Now, people can do what they want to themselves, they have that freedom in our society. But the rest of us have the freedom to consider or not to consider these surgically modified entities to be the gender they claim to be. I see you're another one of those benighted dopes who doesn't understand the difference between sex and gender. Edited March 27, 2012 by Black Dog Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bush_cheney2004 Posted March 27, 2012 Author Report Share Posted March 27, 2012 I expect my Miss Universe Canada to be a woman, not a manwoman, this is not Maury & jerry springer here OK...would you support a Miss Universe Canada contestant who was a female that has undergone a gender change to become a male? Just checking on your bigoted logic here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stopstaaron Posted March 27, 2012 Report Share Posted March 27, 2012 OK...would you support a Miss Universe Canada contestant who was a female that has undergone a gender change to become a male? Just checking on your bigoted logic here. Hell no I would not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Black Dog Posted March 27, 2012 Report Share Posted March 27, 2012 so you would date this person?! and possibly have sex with a male who turned themselves into a female?! highly unlikely Not really refuting my "you're an ass" comment, eh? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bush_cheney2004 Posted March 27, 2012 Author Report Share Posted March 27, 2012 Hell no I would not. But you said the rules allow any "natural born" female to compete in the pageant, right? So why are you changing your tune? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boges Posted March 27, 2012 Report Share Posted March 27, 2012 But you said the rules allow any "natural born" female to compete in the pageant, right? So why are you changing your tune? The pics I've seen of this girl. You wouldn't be able to tell he/she was a male unless you had a closer look or he/she told you. I guess in a purely beauty/body/personality competition her gender of birth gives her no advantage. BUT transgendered people have tried to compete in women's sports where their genetics do give him/her an advantage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stopstaaron Posted March 27, 2012 Report Share Posted March 27, 2012 Not really refuting my "you're an ass" comment, eh? If I am an ass to you I am an ass, it's okay with me, can't please everybody Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boges Posted March 27, 2012 Report Share Posted March 27, 2012 If I am an ass to you I am an ass, it's okay with me, can't please everybody The "I know you are, but what am I" defense is always very effective. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stopstaaron Posted March 27, 2012 Report Share Posted March 27, 2012 But you said the rules allow any "natural born" female to compete in the pageant, right? So why are you changing your tune? Why would that person want to be in a miss universe pageant anyway if they don't even consider themselves a female? come on B.C, you're smarter than this!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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