Romney, The Inevitable Nominee

[Topaz]

Well, he's an unknown to the public, someone new, always a bright spot for voters until they are elected and find what a mistake they made. Anyway, here's some views about the new guy. http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/sns-rt-us-usa-campaign-romney-reactionbre87a0b9-20120811,0,7983759.story

Edited August 11, 2012 by Topaz

[j44]

McCain's pick made a huge difference..it reflected very poorly upon his judgment. I think it remains to be seen how Romney's choice plays out but I agree that the bold move would have been Christie and it was the one that Democrats feared the most.

It was a poor decision but he made it because he was down and needed a boost. Obama had momentum, money and 8 yrs of Bush to attack. 

Palin made McCain look bad but he was going to lose w or w/o her. 

She didn't change the outcome.

[Topaz]

Romney biggest concern is the high debt the US has of 14, 15 TRILLION. Well, one professor thinks it much higher than that and his view it comes in at 200 TRILLION. So which president of the US is going to be able to bring that down and IF, that is true, can any president fix the national debt of the US?? http://www.lewrockwell.com/rep/200-trillion-debt-cannot-be-named.html

Edited August 11, 2012 by Topaz

[waldo]

guess it was 'in the can'... waiting to release:

[punked]

Got another theory on this pick. Much like McCain maybe Rmoney made this pick so he can blame his loss on Ryan and his budget instead of his own running away from his own taxes. This pick isn't going to make the tax thing go away but it will make maybe the next week about the Ryan budget. Then the tax thing comes back, this time with Biden (a man who has his whole life been worth at most 200,000 dollars) release 20 years of taxes and demanding both Romney and Ryan do the same. I promise you if you think Obama's taxes compared to Mitts taxes are bad wait until it is Biden vs. Ryan. Jesus Mitt what are you thinking?

[j44]

Got another theory on this pick. Much like McCain maybe Rmoney made this pick so he can blame his loss on Ryan and his budget instead of his own running away from his own taxes.

I seriously doubt that this crossed any of the minds of anyone in Romney's camp. 

[punked]

I seriously doubt that this crossed any of the minds of anyone in Romney's camp.

Considering politico is reporting there was only one person in the whole camp who wanted Ryan (Romney) I don't think it has to cross anyones mind but Rmoney's.

It is like the Huntsman's have said. If Mitt knew he has to release his taxes he would have never run. So because the taxes have moved this race from a tie to Obama plus 7 and more and more undecideds are wondering what he is hiding. Mitt needs to find a fall man. He got one in Ryan and his plan to give out dollar off coupons to replace Medicare. Seriously old white voters is all Mitt has why would he make this pick?

Edited August 11, 2012 by punked

[Bitsy]

It was a poor decision but he made it because he was down and needed a boost. Obama had momentum, money and 8 yrs of Bush to attack. 

Palin made McCain look bad but he was going to lose w or w/o her. 

She didn't change the outcome.

I didn't see it like that; that pick lost him alot of Republican voters that would have voted for anyone other than Palin. He had some good options that would have refelcted better on his judgement. True Obama had the money advantage and the Bush record advantage but McCain was respected by both parties and with the right VP choice could have captured some of the Hillary supporters.

[j44]

Considering politico is reporting there was only one person in the whole camp who wanted Ryan (Romney) I don't think it has to cross anyones mind but Rmoney's.

It is like the Huntsman's have said. If Mitt knew he has to release his taxes he would have never run. So because the taxes have moved this race from a tie to Obama plus 7 and more and more undecideds are wondering what he is hiding. Mitt needs to find a fall man. He got one in Ryan and his plan to give out dollar off coupons to replace Medicare. Seriously old white voters is all Mitt has why would he make this pick?

I just don't think that someone who puts in all that work and has wanted to be president for so long would think that he should pick a VP to blame for a loss instead of one that could help him win.

[punked]

I just don't think that someone who puts in all that work and has wanted to be president for so long would think that he should pick a VP to blame for a loss instead of one that could help him win.

If your internal polling says you literally can't win with out releasing your taxes and you can't do that you do. Romney has lost a lot of elections and has won a lot as well. He knows what losing feels like.

Edited August 11, 2012 by punked

[j44]

Its not over yet.

And I'm sure there are a lot of other reasons he choose Ryan. He's not stupid.

[punked]

Its not over yet.

And I'm sure there are a lot of other reasons he choose Ryan. He's not stupid.

He could have fooled me the way is campaign is going.

[j44]

He could have fooled me the way is campaign is going.

I agree that it isn't running smoothly but I hardly think he is stupid. And I don't think he'd throw in the towel w almost 3 months to go. And I don't think he'd pick a running mate strictly on that premise.

[punked]

I agree that it isn't running smoothly but I hardly think he is stupid. And I don't think he'd throw in the towel w almost 3 months to go. And I don't think he'd pick a running mate strictly on that premise.

Maybe not but it is a weird pick for a guy who ran so close to the middle when he ran for Mass.

[Newfoundlander]

I think if the vp debates could framed as old wise middle class all his life Joe Biden who has never been with anything monetarily and knows what is like to have nothing vs young had the world handed to him Paul Ryan. I think that is a debate Joe Biden can win.

Why would you say Paul Ryan had the world handed to him?

[j44]

Maybe not but it is a weird pick for a guy who ran so close to the middle when he ran for Mass.

Running in Mass. is different than running nationwide.

[Shady]

Why would you say Paul Ryan had the world handed to him?

I think he's thinking of Ted Kennedy.

[Shady]

Smart? Probably. Maybe not the safest VP choice but it isn't bold.

I disagree. I think it's very bold. It frames the upcoming election as two distinct choices. The current status quo, with an America in decline, worst recovery since the great depression, worst deficits in the history of the country, worst debt in the history of the country, and a general malaise, which will continue for another 4 years if Obama is re-elected. Versus strong economic growth, and budget, taxes, and entitlement reform. Real reform that's necessary to avoid an upcoming American debt crisis. Paul Ryan is the only person in Washington to actually put a detailed plan together. Everybody else just sits on the sidelines and criticizes. Including the current economic illiterate-in-chief.

Anyways, I can't wait until the VP debate. An old, pretty dumb, career politician vs a young, intelligent, reform driven congressman.

[waldo]

Paul Ryan is the only person in Washington to actually put a detailed plan together.

but... but... Shady... why is the Mitt running away from your "Paul Ryan plan... budget proposals" - as fast as the Mitt can run! Why so, Shady? Why so?

[TheNewTeddy]

When Romney first ran, I backed him. He seemed like an Obama that could get Republicans to work with him.

Now he's just crazy.

Also.

Am I the only one who thinks that a Mormon with a Catholic running mate might have trouble solidifying the vote in the deep south?

[kimmy]

When Romney first ran, I backed him. He seemed like an Obama that could get Republicans to work with him.

Now he's just crazy.

Also.

Am I the only one who thinks that a Mormon with a Catholic running mate might have trouble solidifying the vote in the deep south?

The more and more I learn about Romney, the more and more I wish Santorum had won. The Ryan pick settled it in my mind.

Like many others, Santorum's extreme social conservatism put me off and made me hope that Romney would seal it. But you know what? None of that stuff matters very much in the greater scheme of things. Santorum might be a prick, but at least he was a prick who understood the importance of the poor and the middle class and young people. Romney? None of that. Paul Ryan, doubly so. But like a sucker I was cheering for Romney because I was distracted by red herrings and smoke and mirrors.

-k

[Guest Manny]

I saw Romney make the announcement speech on CNN. So Romney is running for Vice President now? Interesting strategy...

[jbg]

I think this year's election is a delicious one as the candidates can truly be considered left and right. However, it must be said that only in America of all the developed nations in the world could someone with policies and a mindset of Romney even dream of getting elected.

We are a country where we believe that hobbling individual initiative is a bad idea.

[BubberMiley]

We are a country where we believe that hobbling individual initiative is a bad idea.

That's true. Better to work together to create an environment where individual initiative can be facilitated and rewarded. Paul Ryan is just the type to destroy that.

[kimmy]

We are a country where we believe that hobbling individual initiative is a bad idea.

When people like Paul Ryan try to explain why they're willing to gut child tax credits and medicare and Pell grants and food stamps to pay for tax cuts for the wealthy, they start talking about how small business owners create most of the jobs in America (video:

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But how many of "the wealthy" are actually small business owners, and how many small business owners are wealthy?

Not many. We're not talking about giving tax cuts to people who are going to take their money and start a small business. We're talking about giving tax cuts to people who are going to take their money to Goldman Sachs and say "make me even richer".

-k