DogOnPorch Posted August 22, 2011 Report Share Posted August 22, 2011 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CPCFTW Posted August 22, 2011 Report Share Posted August 22, 2011 Hey guys I just discovered this forum today, thoughts and prayers go out to Olivia and the family as well as all Canadians of all political or independent stripes I am 16 years old, male, living in Grande Prairie, Alberta, but am a political and historical junkie. This forum was made for me! I look forward to posting from now on, this forum also appears extremely active RIP Jack A 16 year old socialist.. Why am I not surprised? Jack certainly managed to warp the minds of many impressionable Canadian kids. RIP. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oleg Bach Posted August 22, 2011 Report Share Posted August 22, 2011 A 16 year old socialist.. Why am I not surprised? Jack certainly managed to warp the minds of many impressionable Canadian kids. RIP. The road to hell is paved with good intentions - No one has the ultimate political answer to the problems mankind must deal with. Those that stick to one philosophy for a life time are instutional fanatics - nothing worse than some hippy with a grey pony tail that declares himself as a Marxist - IDIOT ! RIP Jack. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oleg Bach Posted August 22, 2011 Report Share Posted August 22, 2011 Twelve string guitar hugh? Mostly old hippies play them - It makes a novice sound passable - One chord sounds like a piano - I wonder about Jacks life...I wonder how someone could hold on to an ideal for so long. During a life time a person should be a socialist when they are young and a liberal in middle age - and a conservative when they are wise and mature...frankly I don't know how Jack managed to continue being a leftist knowing that the left all over the world used deadly force to have their way. To bad that Jack did not fully mature and give up on old ideas that are proven to be flawed...why? I don't get it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Black Dog Posted August 22, 2011 Report Share Posted August 22, 2011 A 16 year old socialist.. Why am I not surprised? Jack certainly managed to warp the minds of many impressionable Canadian kids. RIP. A guy with CPCFTW as his handle is a total asshole...why am I not surprised? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Socialist in Oil Country Posted August 22, 2011 Report Share Posted August 22, 2011 A 16 year old socialist.. Why am I not surprised? Jack certainly managed to warp the minds of many impressionable Canadian kids. RIP. My mind has not been warped by Jack I am not a socialist because of Jack, though I admired the guy I am no Marxist either Quite centrist in reality Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oleg Bach Posted August 22, 2011 Report Share Posted August 22, 2011 A guy with CPCFTW as his handle is a total asshole...why am I not surprised? What does CPCFTW mean? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Socialist in Oil Country Posted August 22, 2011 Report Share Posted August 22, 2011 Twelve string guitar hugh? Mostly old hippies play them - It makes a novice sound passable - One chord sounds like a piano - I wonder about Jacks life...I wonder how someone could hold on to an ideal for so long. During a life time a person should be a socialist when they are young and a liberal in middle age - and a conservative when they are wise and mature...frankly I don't know how Jack managed to continue being a leftist knowing that the left all over the world used deadly force to have their way. To bad that Jack did not fully mature and give up on old ideas that are proven to be flawed...why? I don't get it. Dude, Jack Layton wasn't a communist or Stalin. Look at Norway, Germany, Switzerland Not all leftist roads lead to hell And this is hardly the thread to discuss these things Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Socialist in Oil Country Posted August 22, 2011 Report Share Posted August 22, 2011 (edited) What does CPCFTW mean? I'd assume it means "Conservative Party of Canada For the Win" It's important for us all to have an open mind with these things. Bashing my political beliefs before I have even really espoused those beliefs is quite comical. Edited August 22, 2011 by Socialist in Oil Country Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oleg Bach Posted August 22, 2011 Report Share Posted August 22, 2011 I'd assume it means "Conservative Party of Canada For the Win" It's important for us all to have an open mind with these things. Bashing my political beliefs before I have even really espoused those beliefs is quite comical. Number one - there is no such thing as a political belief...nor political faith - Jack had a political belief that shortened his life - You have to change and adapt constantly - For instance the second you institutionalize a belief as total fact - time marches on and you are instantly out of date. Keeping the mind flexable is what it is about - fanatics all perish early. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest American Woman Posted August 22, 2011 Report Share Posted August 22, 2011 Wow. I have to say I'm shocked to hear it - wasn't expecting it so soon - or perhaps, not at all. My condolences to the Canadians whom he stood for/fought for/represented, and to Canada as a whole, as it's never easy to lose someone who's been a major force in the politics of their country - and of course my heart goes out to his family. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrGreenthumb Posted August 22, 2011 Report Share Posted August 22, 2011 I'd assume it means "Conservative Party of Canada For the Win" It's important for us all to have an open mind with these things. Bashing my political beliefs before I have even really espoused those beliefs is quite comical. You'll find that anyone not bowing down to Harper as the new Messiah and parroting the CPC talking points loudly enough is soon branded a "commie" and worse by some on this forum. Ignore the idiots though, and you can have a pretty meaningful political discussion here. I'd list them here for you to save you time and frustration, but they will reveal themselves quickly enough. Jack's letter to Canadians brought tears to my eyes, and I am really not in the mood to argue with fools right now. Welcome to the forum. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oleg Bach Posted August 22, 2011 Report Share Posted August 22, 2011 His office is about a half a block from my place - The politicals are very reachable in Canada..He was just "Jack up the street" - As if he ran the hardware store or something. Never thought of it that way - just about anyone could go up the road and drop in and say "Is Jack in - I would like to talk to him" _ try doing that in Ameria with the leader of the opposition..Jack was never a distant public figure...just a guy who wanted to make sure that the rich did not totally screw the poor...So he was much like a condomn and a good protector. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Hardner Posted August 22, 2011 Report Share Posted August 22, 2011 No politician at that level can be much of a fanatic, and this is what I value in our national dialogue: it's a set of compromises made by intelligent people who are doing their best. Jack Layton exemplified this in his positive nature, which rewarded him with historic success for his party this year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oleg Bach Posted August 22, 2011 Report Share Posted August 22, 2011 No politician at that level can be much of a fanatic, and this is what I value in our national dialogue: it's a set of compromises made by intelligent people who are doing their best. Jack Layton exemplified this in his positive nature, which rewarded him with historic success for his party this year. He was skilled - and I am sure might have been a hot head leftie when he was a kid - but to get that far - he had to be reasonalble and diplomaitc - In other words he had grown into a true statesman - and rounded individual...I agree. He was like Moses who wandered for 40 years and then found the promised land - and like Moses the people entered in but he was not allowed to do so _ I just hope that the ones he brought this far are wise. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CPCFTW Posted August 22, 2011 Report Share Posted August 22, 2011 I'd assume it means "Conservative Party of Canada For the Win" It's important for us all to have an open mind with these things. Bashing my political beliefs before I have even really espoused those beliefs is quite comical. I called someone named "socialist in oil country" a socialist... Please explain how that is bashing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Socialist in Oil Country Posted August 22, 2011 Report Share Posted August 22, 2011 Number one - there is no such thing as a political belief...nor political faith - Jack had a political belief that shortened his life - You have to change and adapt constantly - For instance the second you institutionalize a belief as total fact - time marches on and you are instantly out of date. Keeping the mind flexable is what it is about - fanatics all perish early. I am not a political fanatic, let's get that out of the way. I follow no ideology or faith. In hindsight political belief wasn't the best word...but being immediately labelled and ostracized by people on this board is quite funny considering I haven't espoused any political opinions yet. You say Jack's political belief shortened his life... I would like to know how you justify this quote. You blame his cancer on his political belief? If so you are a nutcase Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Socialist in Oil Country Posted August 22, 2011 Report Share Posted August 22, 2011 I called someone named "socialist in oil country" a socialist... Please explain how that is bashing. I was responding to Oleg, not you Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Socialist in Oil Country Posted August 22, 2011 Report Share Posted August 22, 2011 You'll find that anyone not bowing down to Harper as the new Messiah and parroting the CPC talking points loudly enough is soon branded a "commie" and worse by some on this forum. Ignore the idiots though, and you can have a pretty meaningful political discussion here. I'd list them here for you to save you time and frustration, but they will reveal themselves quickly enough. Jack's letter to Canadians brought tears to my eyes, and I am really not in the mood to argue with fools right now. Welcome to the forum. Thank you for the welcome I would rather this thread remain non-partisan I have read the forum for a few days and decided to give it a go Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oleg Bach Posted August 22, 2011 Report Share Posted August 22, 2011 I was responding to Oleg, not you Okay I am out of here for now - Me being the old horse - it looks like the young bronks are going to start kicking - better wanter down to the pasture - don't hurt each other and have fun -----I feel sooooooooooooooooooo old - glad my reactioary days are over -------------WHAT DID YOU SAY?!!!! LOL - Love to all and fare well you bunch of lunitics...Look like some young blood is arriving at Mapleleafweb -----------------GREAT ...there is hope! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oleg Bach Posted August 22, 2011 Report Share Posted August 22, 2011 Thank you for the welcome I would rather this thread remain non-partisan I have read the forum for a few days and decided to give it a go The kid is using a term "non-partizan" - He's getting the lingo down - NOW GET OUT OF THE WAY AND LET YOUNG BLOOD HAVE THE FLOOR......... so long guys..later. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WWWTT Posted August 22, 2011 Report Share Posted August 22, 2011 All my sympathy for the Layton clan and NDP party. Jack left some big shoes to fill. WWWTT Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Black Dog Posted August 22, 2011 Report Share Posted August 22, 2011 I would like to know how you justify this quote. You blame his cancer on his political belief? If so you are a nutcase You are a quick study, kid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PIK Posted August 22, 2011 Report Share Posted August 22, 2011 Twelve string guitar hugh? Mostly old hippies play them - It makes a novice sound passable - One chord sounds like a piano - I wonder about Jacks life...I wonder how someone could hold on to an ideal for so long. During a life time a person should be a socialist when they are young and a liberal in middle age - and a conservative when they are wise and mature...frankly I don't know how Jack managed to continue being a leftist knowing that the left all over the world used deadly force to have their way. To bad that Jack did not fully mature and give up on old ideas that are proven to be flawed...why? I don't get it. ol Jack was different then the other lefties of the world, and he will be missed. He was a great canadian, not some dictator from the other side of the planet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Bandelot Posted August 22, 2011 Report Share Posted August 22, 2011 Hey guys I just discovered this forum today, thoughts and prayers go out to Olivia and the family as well as all Canadians of all political or independent stripes I am 16 years old, male, living in Grande Prairie, Alberta, but am a political and historical junkie. This forum was made for me! I look forward to posting from now on, this forum also appears extremely active RIP Jack Welcome to the forum. You'll find several members hate you just because you have the word socialist in your user name. There are quite a few jerks here, just like in most forums. But if you're patient and remember to wear your rubber boots when you come here, you'll be ok! Ps// you'll get used to the smell Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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