Rampant antisemitism remains prevalent

[eyeball]

Nope, there are some pretty solid treaties where I live. They're probably the biggest economic driver hereabouts too.

And I still get shit for supporting them.

[Michael Hardner]

11 hours ago, Rue said:

This is why I consider your words on this forum nothing but ejaculate an you keep good company.

All words are ejaculated, but some ejaculate is best left on the floor for others to clean up.

The hyperbolics on this site enjoy claiming that their opponents "love terrorists" or "celebrate the bombing of innocents".  I have never seen a post on here that supports those views.  If you want to demonize and feed your own ego with your posts as HE for one does, then why even come here ?  

A better model is to discuss, listen and understand others' views.  If you don't change your views, then at least you will be challenged to state them in a way that withstands scrutiny from others, and eventually presumably reflects some kind of logical consistency.  

But you would have to at least listen to others to do so.

[eyeball]

3 minutes ago, GostHacked said:

So the last few posts prove my point about trolling ..  And it ain't Eyeball doing it.

They prove my point too - that right-wingers, especially of the North American variety, are the slimiest bullshitters on the planet.

Bar none.

[bush_cheney2004]

5 minutes ago, eyeball said:

Nope, there are some pretty solid treaties where I live.

 

Again, it is not just about you.  "British" Columbia is a very large, occupied place.

Treaties are just another weapon for Canada.

[eyeball]

STFU you ridiculous moron.

[bush_cheney2004]

1 minute ago, eyeball said:

STFU you ridiculous moron.

 

Don't get upset....it's not only you living with "progressive" cognitive dissonance on occupied land.

 

[eyeball]

It's living with the moral and ethical dissonance of a world filled with your type that gives pause to consider.

[bush_cheney2004]

3 minutes ago, eyeball said:

It's living with the moral and ethical dissonance of a world filled with your type that gives pause to consider.

 

I know....must be a terrific burden to be an ethical "progressive" in such a real world.  

Oh the humanity !!!

Edited August 2, 2017 by bush_cheney2004

[Michael Hardner]

7 minutes ago, bush_cheney2004 said:

 

I know....must be a terrific burden to be an ethical "progressive" in such a real world.  

 

Nothing in recent history is as "progressive" as creating a government built on something called the "Bill of Rights", guaranteeing freedom of expression and religion, and giving people the power to govern themselves.  Your mocking of "progressives" belies the moral imperative that has co-existed with self-interest in the history of American hegemony.

Denying your morality is an act of stubbornness and forum grandstanding, and it is as unrealistic as declaring America as not acting in its own interests at the same time. 

[bush_cheney2004]

2 minutes ago, Michael Hardner said:

Nothing in recent history is as "progressive" as creating a government built on something called the "Bill of Rights", guaranteeing freedom of expression and religion, and giving people the power to govern themselves. 

 

Sure....for free, property owning men (not women) who also owned slaves.   Reality bites that way...then...and now.

Edited August 2, 2017 by bush_cheney2004

[Michael Hardner]

Just now, bush_cheney2004 said:

Sure....for free, property owning men (not women) who also owned slaves.   Reality bites that way...then...and now.

They were also brilliant enough to allow for amendments, without which you or I would never have got the vote.   If I were American that is

[Rue]

6 hours ago, Michael Hardner said:

All words are ejaculated, but some ejaculate is best left on the floor for others to clean up.

The hyperbolics on this site enjoy claiming that their opponents "love terrorists" or "celebrate the bombing of innocents".  I have never seen a post on here that supports those views.  If you want to demonize and feed your own ego with your posts as HE for one does, then why even come here ?  

A better model is to discuss, listen and understand others' views.  If you don't change your views, then at least you will be challenged to state them in a way that withstands scrutiny from others, and eventually presumably reflects some kind of logical consistency.  

But you would have to at least listen to others to do so.

Your point has to be deferred to by me given the spirit it was said but to a point but don't mistake me for a good Christian. I don't have the luxury of turning my cheek or back. The people I am dealing with aren't exactly good Christians.

" I met a good Christian once, he offered me a beer and said, " always check to see I didn't spit in it, I just can't help myself."

Rue 11.45

" I met a good Muslim once, he offered me four wives and then he said,  hey now I don't have to kill you, they'll do that for me..."

Rue 11.46 

" I met a good Conservative once, he offered me a membership in his golf course, then he said, don't kid yourself, now at least I found someone worse than me to beat.."

Rue 11.47

"I met a good Liberal once, he smiled at me, then he said, that's not a smile, I have rabies."

Rue 11.48

" I met a good woman once, she said to me,  I won't tell anyone how small it is if you don't say how big mine is."

Rue 11.49

" I met a pathological liar once, he then denied he met me."

Rue 11.50

 

" I met a good Jew once, he said, I don't care, you can' t marry my daughter unless can take out my brain tumor and stop me from drooling."

Rue 11.51

Edited August 2, 2017 by Rue

[Rue]

On ‎2017‎-‎07‎-‎31 at 0:18 PM, SpankyMcFarland said:

The non-Israeli land in question has been under Israeli control for fifty years so it is very like Israeli territory now. The Israelis may choose to prolong this legal limbo indefinitely as they continue to expand settlements and segregate the population.  

I don't want to go off on a tangent but in fact Israeli Supreme Court decisions have shown the above is not necessarily the case in their decisions. Let's keep it that short and say it presents a mnumentaly HUGE or complex issue which no one on this board is prepared to look at.

  

[Rue]

7 hours ago, GostHacked said:

I don't mind debate. But it's this name calling (like yourself with the anti-semite) makes it impossible to have a proper dialogue. And BC_2004 is a troll, like you, and like DogonPorch. 

If I was Iran I'd be doing the same thing telling the USA to screw off. If Iran was patrolling off USA waters, you'd BET there would be a huge stink about it. But this war on terror is not making me any safer. Because of the foreign policies of Canada, the USA, ext, is actually making my chances rise of being affected by terrorism in Canada. The more we screw up things there, the more chance of things getting screwed up here.

I don't read Hot Enough's posts. Well actually I kind of just glaze over posts now because, none of you are presenting anything new to talk about these days. I look at yours, I see the anti-semite card thrown down in the first sentence, then I simply ignore the rest.

Because I am sure you don't to be called names every time you post. I am sure you don't like other people telling you , that you have an agenda. I am sure you don't like having words put in your mouth.  So why do you do that to others if for no other reason than to troll?

You've been a pain in my ass for a few years now. Like you and DogonPorch, i have to clarify my stance that I am no anti-semtie. But you never let that get in the way of calling me anti-Semite.

So when you grow up, we can talk. Otherwise, go sit with your boys over there in the sandbox. Let the grown ups talk.

Your refusal to acknowledge you engaged in deliberate parsing and chose the title of your thread to smeer all Israelis as enjoying terrorism speaks o your refusal to acknowledge what you did. A child is defined as someone who won't take responsibility for his actions.

ASs for the continued patronizing tone and  fantasize you are the Pharoah Ramses scolding Moses is hilarious.

That's no throne its a toilet seat and you need to evolve past potty training and your obsession of not letting it go.

 

 

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Edited August 2, 2017 by Rue

[The_Squid]

9 hours ago, bush_cheney2004 said:

"British" Columbia is a very large, occupied place.

New "England" is small and crowded.

Edited August 2, 2017 by The_Squid

[The_Squid]

3 hours ago, Rue said:

A child is defined as someone who won't take responsibility for his actions.

I've never seen that as a definition....   usually it's about age.  

[GostHacked]

3 hours ago, Rue said:

Your refusal to acknowledge you engaged in deliberate parsing and chose the title of your thread to smeer all Israelis as enjoying terrorism speaks o your refusal to acknowledge what you did. A child is defined as someone who won't take responsibility for his actions.

ASs for the continued patronizing tone and  fantasize you are the Pharoah Ramses scolding Moses is hilarious.

That's no throne its a toilet seat and you need to evolve past potty training and your obsession of not letting it go.

Thanks for 'speaking' for me. It's really appreciated.

Again, I am no anti-semite. And I am not pissing all over ALL Jews/Isrealis. I have not got the time NOR the money to travel there to piss on each and every one of them.

Fuck off.

[marcus]

Rue is a perfect example of a Zionist who tries to shut down criticism of Israel's actions, by screaming anti-semite. 

Unfortunately there are people who think that all Jews are like Rue. They're not. Some of the leading critics of Israel and their treatment of Palestinians are Jewish or Jewish Israeli.

The Rues attack, when someone goes off script. Goes off the narrative. For example, the following, which describes some of the myths about Israel and Zionism, will make most of the Rues foam at the mouth:

The “Running Gag” of the Zionist historical narrative is the story of the “empty land” of Palestine, into which people without a land had finally returned after 2000 years of exile. The slogan of a country without a people, for people without a country, is the most prominent expression of the Zionist mythology. For Pappe, it’s less important whether the Jews existed as a people, rather than that the Zionists deny the existence of a Palestinian population but simultaneously claim that the State of Israel represents all the Jews of the world and does everything for their benefit and acts for them. Such a claim is just as daring as the identification of Zionism with Judaism because it takes Jews hostage for Israel’s despising policy.

The Zionists presented the colonization of Palestine with biblical rhetoric; this served only as a means to an end. The highest prophet of Zionism, Theodor Herzl, even considered Uganda and other places instead of the Zionist Promised Land. Finally, they found their roots in Palestine. “From then on, the Bible became both the justification and the guideline of the Zionist colonization of Palestine,” writes Pappe. He describes Zionism as a “colonial settler movement” and Israel as a “Settler Colonial State.”

The author points out that the expulsion of the Palestinians in 1947/48 was “ethnic cleansing.” Likewise, the 1967 June war, which is also called the Sixth Day War, was not an act of self-defense of the “little David” against an overpowering “Goliath,” but an Israeli attack on which the Israeli security establishment has minutely prepared for years.

Source

Here is a book, by Jewish Israeli Historian, Ilan Pappe called "10 Myths About Israel"

 

[GostHacked]

On 8/2/2017 at 3:18 PM, Rue said:

Your refusal to acknowledge you engaged in deliberate parsing and chose the title of your thread to smeer all Israelis as enjoying terrorism speaks o your refusal to acknowledge what you did. A child is defined as someone who won't take responsibility for his actions.

ASs for the continued patronizing tone and  fantasize you are the Pharoah Ramses scolding Moses is hilarious.

That's no throne its a toilet seat and you need to evolve past potty training and your obsession of not letting it go.

 

 

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Holy fuck, really?  The child is you. I've told you my stance, and you won't accept it and cry like a little fucking baby every time something is posted about Israel giving you this nice opportunity to call others anti-semites.  Fuck you to the core Rue. So once you drop this toddler tantrum act we MIGHT be able to have a conversation.

I might have accepted your notions on your first reply, but the way it started I knew right away this thread would continue down this path. So you can be helpful to the conversation or you can keep on acting like a child yourself.

Only idiots and children use those stupid analogies like you do.

[Rue]

On ‎2017‎-‎08‎-‎02 at 7:03 PM, The_Squid said:

I've never seen that as a definition....   usually it's about age.  

Horse crap. You are fully aware our legal system differentiates minors from adults when it comes to the sentences and treatment we dispense to them in criminal courts and how we deal with them in civil courts precisely because we don't think they have the ability to be responsible for their actions.

You are well aware of that.  You are also quite aware that biological age is not the only factor in determining someone's sense of maturity and responsibility and there are thousands of psychology books on how to raise children to become responsible.

Go play that game of idiocy or ignorance with someone else. If you don't want to respond to me, don't, but don't feign ignorance with what I say, we already have other jack asses doing that shtick on this forum and it only belittles them and you...

[Rue]

16 hours ago, marcus said:

Rue is a perfect example of a Zionist who tries to shut down criticism of Israel's actions, by screaming anti-semite. 

Unfortunately there are people who think that all Jews are like Rue. They're not. Some of the leading critics of Israel and their treatment of Palestinians are Jewish or Jewish Israeli.

The Rues attack, when someone goes off script. Goes off the narrative. For example, the following, which describes some of the myths about Israel and Zionism, will make most of the Rues foam at the mouth:

The “Running Gag” of the Zionist historical narrative is the story of the “empty land” of Palestine, into which people without a land had finally returned after 2000 years of exile. The slogan of a country without a people, for people without a country, is the most prominent expression of the Zionist mythology. For Pappe, it’s less important whether the Jews existed as a people, rather than that the Zionists deny the existence of a Palestinian population but simultaneously claim that the State of Israel represents all the Jews of the world and does everything for their benefit and acts for them. Such a claim is just as daring as the identification of Zionism with Judaism because it takes Jews hostage for Israel’s despising policy.

The Zionists presented the colonization of Palestine with biblical rhetoric; this served only as a means to an end. The highest prophet of Zionism, Theodor Herzl, even considered Uganda and other places instead of the Zionist Promised Land. Finally, they found their roots in Palestine. “From then on, the Bible became both the justification and the guideline of the Zionist colonization of Palestine,” writes Pappe. He describes Zionism as a “colonial settler movement” and Israel as a “Settler Colonial State.”

The author points out that the expulsion of the Palestinians in 1947/48 was “ethnic cleansing.” Likewise, the 1967 June war, which is also called the Sixth Day War, was not an act of self-defense of the “little David” against an overpowering “Goliath,” but an Israeli attack on which the Israeli security establishment has minutely prepared for years.

Source

Here is a book, by Jewish Israeli Historian, Ilan Pappe called "10 Myths About Israel"

 

...and you provide a perfect example of a one trick pony who comes on this forum  engaging in the latest form of anti Semitism trying to justify your hatred of Jews by replacing the word Jew with Zionist.

You smeer me for being a Jew but use the term Zionist you do it repeatedly to hijack any or all threads regardless of the topic to question the right of Jews to be  a political collective identity and to justify making comments that smeer Jews for choosing to have a political identity.

You come on this board to engage in t he latest recycle form of  anti-Semitism because your comments do not speak to Israeli state policies and criticize those policies, and instead are made to negatively stereotype all Israelis for being Jews and Israeli.

Your comments are anti-Semite precisely because you show hatred at any Jew if they believe they have the same right to nationality your fellow Muslims and Christians have if they feel they should defend themselves against Islamic terrorism.

Like GhostHacked you try smeer any Jew that disagrees with you as a bad Jew not just a bad Zionist. Your words are on the forum in past responses for all to read who you challenge and why and how you describe the people you challenge. You have a problem with a Jew not knowing his place, and that place is the place of a dhimmi, a second class infidel inferior to a Muslim and not capable of owning land let alone having any legal rights the same as a Muslim let alone a  nation.

You are a bigot because you condone and support people like Ghost who take an example of a questionable business and use that issue to create a title calling all Israelis blod thirsty i.e., accusing all Israelis of enjoying war, fighting terrorists.

GhostHacked is a passive aggressive bigot who when caught engaging in misrepresentations by parsing parts of an article to misrepresent them in a false quote, then once he's exposed by me  spends the next 10 or so responses posing himself as a victim. He shows precisely because I am a Jew calling him an anti-Semite for what he did, he is an anti-Semite. Its the very notion of me being a Jew he attacked in his response by portraying me as a bad Jew.

You come on this thread which is about anti Semitism to cheer on his smeer of Israelis.

The accusation of Israelis being blood thirsty is a nasty, anti semitic attack at Jews for defending themselves from terrorism designed not  just to wipe them out as Israelis but because they are Jews.

You have made it clear in your wording in past posts  you  agree with terrorist tactics against Israel and have rephrased them as defensive reactions or liberation or freedom fighting. You and Ghost claim when an Israeli defends themselves against terrorism it makes them terrorists and blood thirsty.

For me that makes anything you two  say anti-Semitic hateful and a joke.

I consider the source.

Your words come from a sewer whose essence is hatred of Jews because you were brought up to believe we can not be equal to Muslims ever and that includes not just having or own nation but any rights on the same level as a Muslim and that is why you embrace Sharia Law precisely because it defines Jews as dhimmi and khafir, inferiors.

Save your agenda for someone else. The English sounding name means nothing to me.

.You want to get in my face and question my Jewish identity, I do the same with yours only I don't hide what I am.

I again state anti-semitism is alive and being used under the pretext of criticizing Israel to justify what it actually is:

 

https://www.gatestoneinstitute.org/10492/anti-semitism-tolerance

http://www.newantisemitism.org/

http://www.myjewishlearning.com/article/anti-semitism-in-the-21st-century/

http://www.thewhig.com/2015/07/09/rise-of-the-new-anti-semitism

 

Edited August 5, 2017 by Rue

[The_Squid]

52 minutes ago, Rue said:

You are fully aware our legal system differentiates minors from adults...

Yes...  based on age.  Not your definition.

[Rue]

20 minutes ago, The_Squid said:

Yes...  based on age.  Not your definition.

No not just based on age. The biological age is but one factor and not its not my definition.

The fact that you even responded pretending you think the concept of law of minors is  only based on biological  age isn't something I would come on this forum and brag about. There is a reason certain 16 to 18 year olds despite being defined as minors, are treated as adults. Zip over your head.

As well if your brain can't conceive that certain children of the same biological age are quite different in their ability to accept responsibility and how some children are forced to grow up fast and become adults despite their biological age precisely because they had to take on responsibilities and that makes them adults  or more on the level of adults, is pretty sad,

Your   negative attention seeking  ends now with me.

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Edited August 5, 2017 by Rue

[GostHacked]

20 hours ago, Rue said:

...and you provide a perfect example of a one trick pony who comes on this forum  engaging in the latest form of anti Semitism trying to justify your hatred of Jews by replacing the word Jew with Zionist.

You smeer me for being a Jew but use the term Zionist you do it repeatedly to hijack any or all threads regardless of the topic to question the right of Jews to be  a political collective identity and to justify making comments that smeer Jews for choosing to have a political identity.

You come on this board to engage in t he latest recycle form of  anti-Semitism because your comments do not speak to Israeli state policies and criticize those policies, and instead are made to negatively stereotype all Israelis for being Jews and Israeli.

Your comments are anti-Semite precisely because you show hatred at any Jew if they believe they have the same right to nationality your fellow Muslims and Christians have if they feel they should defend themselves against Islamic terrorism.

Like GhostHacked you try smeer any Jew that disagrees with you as a bad Jew not just a bad Zionist. Your words are on the forum in past responses for all to read who you challenge and why and how you describe the people you challenge. You have a problem with a Jew not knowing his place, and that place is the place of a dhimmi, a second class infidel inferior to a Muslim and not capable of owning land let alone having any legal rights the same as a Muslim let alone a  nation.

You are a bigot because you condone and support people like Ghost who take an example of a questionable business and use that issue to create a title calling all Israelis blod thirsty i.e., accusing all Israelis of enjoying war, fighting terrorists.

GhostHacked is a passive aggressive bigot who when caught engaging in misrepresentations by parsing parts of an article to misrepresent them in a false quote, then once he's exposed by me  spends the next 10 or so responses posing himself as a victim. He shows precisely because I am a Jew calling him an anti-Semite for what he did, he is an anti-Semite. Its the very notion of me being a Jew he attacked in his response by portraying me as a bad Jew.

You come on this thread which is about anti Semitism to cheer on his smeer of Israelis.

The accusation of Israelis being blood thirsty is a nasty, anti semitic attack at Jews for defending themselves from terrorism designed not  just to wipe them out as Israelis but because they are Jews.

You have made it clear in your wording in past posts  you  agree with terrorist tactics against Israel and have rephrased them as defensive reactions or liberation or freedom fighting. You and Ghost claim when an Israeli defends themselves against terrorism it makes them terrorists and blood thirsty.

I put in bold every incorrect statement in your post.

People don't smear you because you are a Jew, people smear you because you act like an asshole. You come on this board and think everything is anti-semetic.

Passive aggressive? Fuck how much more do I need to get in your face and tell you to fuck off because you are wrong?

There was another thread where Rue admits that not everything is anti-semetic when criticizing Israel, but that's not stopping rue from crying foul every step of the way.

I am a victim of your abuse, Rue. I made a post and you went off with the antisemitism. I clarified my position yet again, but you keep going.

The main question is why do you keep going when I have stated clearly my views. I am no fan of Israel, but I am also not a fan of many other nations.

Fuck off Rue,

 

[eyeball]

59 minutes ago, GostHacked said:

 

Fuck off Rue,

 

What he said.