Curveball admits WMD lies, Colin Powell PO'd at CIA

Shady · July 6, 2014

The fact that Saddam purchased chemical weapons from U.S. Sources back in the 80s is common knowledge. Nobody's blowing the whistle on anything. The fact that Russia currently supplies arms to many countries in the Middle East is also common knowledge. They're also assisting Iran with its nuclear program. Monty, you're just wasting everybody's time as well as forum space.

What's your next big announcement going to be? That Reagan applied arms to the contras? That the English monarchy had ties to the nazi regime? Oh wait I know, that Spain plundered South American and Central American gold! Breaking news right!?

Shady · July 6, 2014

Old news and topic...debated years ago here at MLW. Many nations supplied chemical weapons precursors, binary agents, and munitions to Iraq, including Canada:

http://www.mapleleafweb.com/forums/topic/18101-curveball-admits-wmd-lies-colin-powell-pod-at-cia/page-3#entry632895

Yep. Next it's going to be a thread on Tianamen Square followed by the British occupation of India.

monty16 · July 6, 2014

Please read the reference to the rules of this forum which I have just posted in the applicable section for discussion of such matters. You will find that you are in violation of the rules by once again referring to me and in fact attacking me personally.

I choose to not report it this time but will in the future. Thanks for your understanding.

bush_cheney2004 · July 6, 2014

Please read the reference to the rules of this forum which I have just posted in the applicable section for discussion of such matters. You will find that you are in violation of the rules by once again referring to me and in fact attacking me personally.

I choose to not report it this time but will in the future. Thanks for your understanding.

More nonsense....please try to stay on topic.

monty16 · July 7, 2014

They're very sensible rules but if you disagree with them you should talk to one of the moderators about it. Don't complain to me.

Bob Macadoo · July 7, 2014

More nonsense....please try to stay on topic.

Nonsense....flamed and reported.

monty16 · July 7, 2014

Good work Bob! The rules are after all, the rules.

marcus · July 7, 2014

The U.S. supported Saddam with their use of chemical weapons against its own people and the Iranians. This is also out in the open, but not many people, especially the apologists, are able to acknowledge this dark truth.

http://www.foreignpolicy.com/articles/2013/08/25/secret_cia_files_prove_america_helped_saddam_as_he_gassed_iran

Edited July 7, 2014 by marcus

monty16 · July 7, 2014

The problem is marcus, US CIA agent Pelletiere investigated the gassings at Halabja and determined that the chem weapons used were only being used by the Iranians. So that makes the question one of whether he lied or not. If he lied then it was to cover up the fact that the US supplied Iraq with the weapons.

This was originally uncovered by Jude Wanniski who was an advisor to the Reagan admin.

But the point that needs to be considered is that only weapons which the US doesn't use itself on civilian populations as well as military personnel are declared weapons of mass destruction.

Everybody here can read the term and understand what it means. It means, weapons that are capable of causing mass destruction. Far too many people have been hoodwinked by US propaganda. And it's not coincidental that most of those people are those in Canada who support Harper.

Harper lies to the Canadian people in his effort to push along the US propaganda effort.

So let's get back to the basics: Which country waged a war on a relatively small and defenceless country on false pretences? Which country uses wmd's and then made up lies to say that the other smaller country possessed wmd's?

When we establish that truth then we will also know which country's ex-leader should be tried in the Hague for crimes against humanity and then hung by his heels from the nearest lamppost and shot full of holes?

bush_cheney2004 · July 7, 2014

Please don't hang former Canadian PM Jean Chretien for bombing a relatively "small and defenceless" country (in 1999).

monty16 · July 7, 2014

Hold all countries and countries' leaders to account for signing on to joining the US in their war crimes and crimes against humanity. If it is determined that Clinton's Kosovo campaign was such a crime then none should be able to escape justice.

I must have told you a hundred times now that that tactic is not a defence of a US president. I will never stoop to the level of accepting that it could be. You choose your level of personal integrity and I'll choose mine

bush_cheney2004 · July 7, 2014

It's not about you or me, and we already know about Canada's "integrity" in such matters. The only thing to settle on is the price.

GostHacked · July 8, 2014

Where are those WMDs?? Still have not found them. And now all the hardware that the US left behind, because it was too expensive to bring home, ends up in the hands of this ISIS group.

More blowback.

GostHacked · July 8, 2014

Some might like this.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qtd7o9x5uN0

Shady · July 8, 2014

Where are those WMDs?? Still have not found them. And now all the hardware that the US left behind, because it was too expensive to bring home, ends up in the hands of this ISIS group.More blowback.

I guess Saddam shouldn't have bluffed, as well as violate ceasefires and resolutions.

Blowback.

bush_cheney2004 · July 8, 2014

I guess Saddam shouldn't have bluffed, as well as violate ceasefires and resolutions.

Blowback.

Yep...Saddam was a very bad poker player. Blowback indeed !!

waldo · July 8, 2014

Some might like this.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qtd7o9x5uN0

ah yes - a Harper plagiarized speech - good times!

waldo · July 8, 2014

I guess Saddam shouldn't have bluffed, as well as violate ceasefires and resolutions.

Blowback.

blowback? See Hussein 'green lighted' by U.S. Ambassador to Iraq, April Glaspie...

Shady · July 8, 2014

blowback? See Hussein 'green lighted' by U.S. Ambassador to Iraq, April Glaspie...

Nice urban legand waldo. Sorry, but Saddam violated the ceasefire he agreed to, and then violated UN resolutions, while at the same time bluffing that he had WMDs. Actions have consequences. Bad ones for him. Blowback.

waldo · July 9, 2014

Nice urban legand waldo. Sorry, but Saddam violated the ceasefire he agreed to, and then violated UN resolutions, while at the same time bluffing that he had WMDs. Actions have consequences. Bad ones for him. Blowback.

urban legend??? She had Daddy Shrub's blessing! C'mon...

bush_cheney2004 · July 9, 2014

Nice urban legand waldo. Sorry, but Saddam violated the ceasefire he agreed to, and then violated UN resolutions, while at the same time bluffing that he had WMDs. Actions have consequences. Bad ones for him. Blowback.

Yep...I hear that April also gave Denmark the "green light" to invade Canada! :lol:

Edited July 9, 2014 by bush_cheney2004

Shady · July 9, 2014

urban legend??? She had Daddy Shrub's blessing! C'mon...

What's shrub mean? I don't understand.

Shady · July 9, 2014

Yep...I hear that April also gave Denmark the "green light" to invade Canada!

No doubt. Apparently Saddam had permission to violate his ceasefire, violate UN resolutions, refuse weapons inspections for four years, and pretend to have WMDs.

BubberMiley · July 9, 2014

What's shrub mean? I don't understand.

You were probably too young at the time to remember. It was Bush Jr.'s nickname.

On Guard for Thee · July 9, 2014

Nice urban legand waldo. Sorry, but Saddam violated the ceasefire he agreed to, and then violated UN resolutions, while at the same time bluffing that he had WMDs. Actions have consequences. Bad ones for him. Blowback.

He didn't bluff. He let teh UN search his country far and wide. They found nothing.