Smallc Posted February 24, 2011 Report Posted February 24, 2011 I don't understand what needs to be excused? People have the freedom to have opinions. And people have the freedom to call out idiots with stupid opinions. I'm calling out Limbaugh's...and yours. Quote
Smallc Posted February 24, 2011 Report Posted February 24, 2011 I can hardly believe that you would defend Limbaugh here Shady... seriously. I believe it. Without Hannity and Limbaugh, he'd have no where to get his talking points. Quote
BubberMiley Posted February 24, 2011 Report Posted February 24, 2011 What are the differences between Wisconsin protesters calling Walker Hitler, Mussolini, Mubarak, and drawing gun targets over him and the few signs at Tea Party protests? Please enlighten us. The difference would be that Walker has already confessed to "looking into" planting fake protesters to make them look bad. Quote "I think it's fun watching the waldick get all excited/knickers in a knot over something." -scribblet
bush_cheney2004 Posted February 24, 2011 Report Posted February 24, 2011 Limbaugh, Hannity, and Stern have significant market share in Canada. There is no similar Canadian radio personality dominance in US markets. Now why is that? Is the CRTC asleep at the wheel..again? Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
Shady Posted February 24, 2011 Report Posted February 24, 2011 And people have the freedom to call out idiots with stupid opinions. I'm calling out Limbaugh's...and yours. Fair enough. And my opinion is that it's fine for the first lady to promote healthy food. But in this case, she's going a bit beyond just promotion. I guess we can agree to disagree. Quote
Shady Posted February 24, 2011 Report Posted February 24, 2011 Pfft. Government subsidies to industry have actually done more to effectively limit real food choice in the marketplace than any of the measures proposed by FLOTUS, yet I don't hear you crying about that. That's a completely seperate issue. Sure, end subsidies. Quote
Shakeyhands Posted February 24, 2011 Author Report Posted February 24, 2011 Fair enough. And my opinion is that it's fine for the first lady to promote healthy food. But in this case, she's going a bit beyond just promotion. I guess we can agree to disagree. and Nancy told us to just say no to drugs... what is the difference again? Quote "They muddy the water, to make it seem deep." - Friedrich Nietzsche
GWiz Posted February 24, 2011 Report Posted February 24, 2011 Because that's how you get to be and maintain #1 Arbitron ratings in American radio markets for many, many years. Not to mention FauxNews ratings... Quote There are none so blind, deaf and dumb as those that fail to recognize, understand, and promote TRUTH...- GWiz
waldo Posted February 24, 2011 Report Posted February 24, 2011 I can hardly believe these Republicans. Why must the discourse always seem to be dragged to this sort of level. I don't think there is any question that obeisity is a huge and growing issue in the US (North America actually) and this is the sort of response we get from the right? Political points at any cost?Comments from the rights health posterboy RW wingnuts have been playing out this, "Michelle is fat" theme, for some time now... well before she escalated her 'healthy eating campaign'... haters hatin! It sort of ramped up when she had the audacity, the nerve... to create a White House vegetable garden - just imagine! The wingnuts ratcheted it up even further when this pic came forward, showing a somewhat unflattering "comparison" between Carla Bruni-Sarkozy, Princess Letizia and Michelle Obama... more haters hatin! Quote
GWiz Posted February 24, 2011 Report Posted February 24, 2011 I remember when some people compared George Bush to a chimpanzee...still do. Yeah, but only because he talked like one and had a simular mentality... Totally different, he was a President, Michelle is just married to one... No one picked on Laura, and if you think they did please provide the LINK for us to examine the link... Get real bud... This is making you look bad and putting you in company I don't think you want to keep... Quote There are none so blind, deaf and dumb as those that fail to recognize, understand, and promote TRUTH...- GWiz
ToadBrother Posted February 24, 2011 Report Posted February 24, 2011 It's a response to Michelle Obama's insistence on telling everyone what they can eat and what they cannot eat. She's the definition of nanny-state. Last time I checked she was in no position to pass laws. How can that possibly be an example of a nanny state? I mean, do you think Betty Ford was part of the nanny state because she spoke out against substance abuse? Quote
Shady Posted February 24, 2011 Report Posted February 24, 2011 and Nancy told us to just say no to drugs... what is the difference again? Promoting no to drugs, or even to healthy food is completely different than seeking to change public policy, and seeking to "meet" with private businesses to change their practices. Do you think these businesses and restaurants want to have to sit down with the first lady? I think they'd rather be conducting their day to day business. I think they know much more about what their client/customer base wants then some lady who's never run a business in her life. She should stick to the PSAs and school lunch programs, and speaking to children. Quote
Black Dog Posted February 24, 2011 Report Posted February 24, 2011 Fair enough. And my opinion is that it's fine for the first lady to promote healthy food. But in this case, she's going a bit beyond just promotion. I guess we can agree to disagree. Okay: what is the line between promotion and food fascism in your books? What would be an acceptable level? I mean, I'm sure if she just asked nicely, the industry would get right on that, just like the cigarette industry voluntarily decided to limit their advertising and scale back their health claims, right? That's a completely seperate issue. Sure, end subsidies. It's not really a separate issue at all, since production and consumption are (duh) linked. Quote
ToadBrother Posted February 24, 2011 Report Posted February 24, 2011 Promoting no to drugs, or even to healthy food is completely different than seeking to change public policy, and seeking to "meet" with private businesses to change their practices. Do you think these businesses and restaurants want to have to sit down with the first lady? I think they'd rather be conducting their day to day business. I think they know much more about what their client/customer base wants then some lady who's never run a business in her life. She should stick to the PSAs and school lunch programs, and speaking to children. Let me repeat. The First Lady is in no position to alter policy. This idea that somehow because she says "eat better" that somehow this is state intrusion is idiotic... which is why no one should be shocked that you think it. Quote
bush_cheney2004 Posted February 24, 2011 Report Posted February 24, 2011 Yeah, but only because he talked like one and had a simular mentality... Thank God for that...think of the money we saved on Oval Office cleaning! Totally different, he was a President, Michelle is just married to one... No one picked on Laura, and if you think they did please provide the LINK for us to examine the link... Yes they did....ditto Nancy Reagan. Get real bud... This is making you look bad and putting you in company I don't think you want to keep... No matter....you will find that I am not beholden to anyone. I am just here to have a good time....American style. Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
Jack Weber Posted February 24, 2011 Report Posted February 24, 2011 Let me repeat. The First Lady is in no position to alter policy. This idea that somehow because she says "eat better" that somehow this is state intrusion is idiotic... which is why no one should be shocked that you think it. COMMUNIST!!!! Quote The beatings will continue until morale improves!!!
Black Dog Posted February 24, 2011 Report Posted February 24, 2011 Promoting no to drugs, or even to healthy food is completely different than seeking to change public policy, and seeking to "meet" with private businesses to change their practices. Do you think these businesses and restaurants want to have to sit down with the first lady? I think they'd rather be conducting their day to day business. I think they know much more about what their client/customer base wants then some lady who's never run a business in her life. She should stick to the PSAs and school lunch programs, and speaking to children. Upon reading this, it's pretty clear you don't have any specific objections here or a real sense of why you think its wrong. You just see a ostensibly liberal figure making a play to get business to change its destructive ways and so you default to outrage mode. Quote
Jack Weber Posted February 24, 2011 Report Posted February 24, 2011 Upon reading this, it's pretty clear you don't have any specific objections here or a real sense of why you think its wrong. You just see a ostensibly liberal figure making a play to get business to change its destructive ways and so you default to outrage mode. Pretty much.... Quote The beatings will continue until morale improves!!!
Black Dog Posted February 24, 2011 Report Posted February 24, 2011 Let me repeat. The First Lady is in no position to alter policy. This idea that somehow because she says "eat better" that somehow this is state intrusion is idiotic... which is why no one should be shocked that you think it. It is state intrusion. The real question is if it is unwarranted or excessive. Quote
Shady Posted February 24, 2011 Report Posted February 24, 2011 Let me repeat. The First Lady is in no position to alter policy. This idea that somehow because she says "eat better" that somehow this is state intrusion is idiotic... which is why no one should be shocked that you think it. No, but her husband is, and in a pretty powerful position at that. It's not that she's just saying eat better. If that's all it was, there wouldn't be a problem. Upon reading this, it's pretty clear you don't have any specific objections here or a real sense of why you think its wrong. I've already discussed why I think she's wrong. It's one thing to promote healthy food. But it's another thing to get involved in private businesses where she has no businesses being at all. You just see a ostensibly liberal figure making a play to get business to change its destructive ways and so you default to outrage mode. The fact that you characterize restaurants serving food their customers want as "destructive ways" is frightening. Are you gonna start telling us what we can and cannot eat too? And if these restaurants change their menus and end up going out of business. Is the first lady gonna be there to provide financial support? She needs to butt the hell out of other people's affairs and stick to promoting healthy foods. Quote
Black Dog Posted February 24, 2011 Report Posted February 24, 2011 (edited) I've already discussed why I think she's wrong. It's one thing to promote healthy food. But it's another thing to get involved in private businesses where she has no businesses being at all. What specific measures are you objecting to here? The fact that you characterize restaurants serving food their customers want as "destructive ways" is frightening. I really don't understand how the fact customers want to hoover up artery-clogging slop makes the slop any less damaging. Are you gonna start telling us what we can and cannot eat too? If only she actually was telling Americans what they can and cannot eat. Maybe they wouldn't be such a nation of Limbaughs. And if these restaurants change their menus and end up going out of business. Is the first lady gonna be there to provide financial support? Again: what are the specific measures is Obama promoting that could lead to this outcome? She needs to butt the hell out of other people's affairs and stick to promoting healthy foods. Yeah, just like anti-drug or cigarette messages worked fine on their own without any sort of legislative teeth behind them, right? The more I think about it, the more I have to laugh at the idea that the food industry is being dragged kicking and screaming into making the minor changes Obama is asking for. Given the level of awareness around obesity and the increasingly crappy image of fast food and agribusiness, this is really a golden marketing opportunity for these guys. What would be the food equivalent of greenwashing? Edited February 24, 2011 by Black Dog Quote
Shakeyhands Posted February 24, 2011 Author Report Posted February 24, 2011 Promoting no to drugs, or even to healthy food is completely different than seeking to change public policy, and seeking to "meet" with private businesses to change their practices. Do you think these businesses and restaurants want to have to sit down with the first lady? I think they'd rather be conducting their day to day business. I think they know much more about what their client/customer base wants then some lady who's never run a business in her life. She should stick to the PSAs and school lunch programs, and speaking to children. Well that sneaky B**ch!! Imagine the gall! Sneaky B**ch plans to doom restaurants!!! You are ridiculous Shady. Quote "They muddy the water, to make it seem deep." - Friedrich Nietzsche
Shakeyhands Posted February 24, 2011 Author Report Posted February 24, 2011 Yeah, just like anti-drug or cigarette messages worked fine on their own without any sort of legislative teeth behind them, right? Not to mention what the "War on Drugs" has cost the US. Quote "They muddy the water, to make it seem deep." - Friedrich Nietzsche
Jack Weber Posted February 24, 2011 Report Posted February 24, 2011 (edited) Well that sneaky B**ch!! Imagine the gall! Sneaky B**ch plans to doom restaurants!!! You are ridiculous Shady. Yeah,but his ridiculousness is pure comedy... You'd think the guy would learn when to really be outraged and not... But he just goes off on these self-serving,sanctimonious,Fox News driven,ideological rants for the sake of doing it...I guess?? I remember last year Olbermann used Lewis Black's "NAZI Tourettes" bit to go after Glenn Beck..He was right to do so,but he said ,"Beck keeps Bringin' The Stupid!" so he kinda brings it on himself... Shady (The Professor) is our Glenn Beck!! Watch him make an Olbermann comment to try to nullify all of the above.... With the patented,"Professor Selective Quoting" option in full effect!!!! Edited February 24, 2011 by Jack Weber Quote The beatings will continue until morale improves!!!
Shakeyhands Posted February 24, 2011 Author Report Posted February 24, 2011 Yeah,but his ridiculousness is pure comedy... I would agree... but he gets to vote here. Quote "They muddy the water, to make it seem deep." - Friedrich Nietzsche
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