Limbaugh laughable

[Black Dog]

That's not all she's doing. If that was it, I wouldn't have a problem. But wanting to "meet" with private businesses in order to change their menu and portion sizes isn't about freedom of information.

neither is it about state coercion.

I'll repost. Since apparently nobody reads links anymore.

From the same piece, a great example of Obama's strong arm tactics at work:

Still, Mrs. Obama has been treading carefully. As part of her anti-obesity campaign, she has called on food makers to design clear “front-of-package” labels to warn consumers about ingredients like salt, sugar and fat. But after months of negotiations with the White House, the companies insisted on a plan that would also spotlight healthy ingredients, like calcium or fiber.

The administration thought the new labels confusing, and they do not meet recommendations in a recent report by experts at the nonpartisan Institute of Medicine. When the food companies announced the plan, the White House put out a tepid statement calling it “a significant first step.” Mrs. Obama said nothing.

ZOMG! Somebody stop this monster!

Let's see. Team of advisors, closed door private meetings in order to prod an industry to sign on to her agenda. And challenging restaurants to not only change their menus, but also their recipes!

And the part where all this is voluntary completely escapes you.

You guys are all apologists for smiley-faced fascism.

I'm curious where you draw the line. Would you propose the government get out of food altogether? let industry police itself? After all, who are they to tell us how much e. coli we can have in our burgers or what sort of health claims manufacturers can make about their products? Because it's really all or nothing here.

It just goes to show how unhinged the right is that minor, voluntary and collaborative measures like the ones Obama has put forward are met with such hysteria.

Edited February 25, 2011 by Black Dog

[BubberMiley]

Apparently I was apologizing for myself!

Apology warranted and accepted.

[guyser]

Is Limbaugh the first drug addict liberals don't like?

No, not at all.

What some dont like is his "string up all druggies" ....all the while he was one of them.

Hypocrisy, thy name is Limbaugh.

[bloodyminded]

The more I think about it, the more I have to laugh at the idea that the food industry is being dragged kicking and screaming into making the minor changes Obama is asking for. Given the level of awareness around obesity and the increasingly crappy image of fast food and agribusiness, this is really a golden marketing opportunity for these guys. What would be the food equivalent of greenwashing?

Exactly. Basic marketing principles, based on long and careful navigaiton of perceived public opinions.

The big box stores have saved millions of dollars by offering reusable bags as an option over plastic; and it's been good for their image, marketing-wise.

I don't quite know why some people believe that the poor little mega-corporations are being forever victimized.

[bloodyminded]

We're not talking about human rights. We're talking about rights granted under the US constitution. You know, life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness? I'm still trying to figure out where the first lady gets her authority to tell private businesses what they can and cannot serve.

She hasn't. No orders were given; no directives passed around. Private food businesses can continue to serve whatever they want, under restrictions only from pre-existing laws that are utterly unrelated in every way from Michelle Obama, the Socialist Tyrant.

[Black Dog]

So I guess Shady never could find a specific issue with Michelle Obama's overtures to the food industry.

In other food fascism news, the U.S Guv'ment is telling you what to eat!!!

Edited March 4, 2011 by Black Dog

[Shakeyhands]

So I guess Shady never could find a specific issue with Michelle Obama's overtures to the food industry.

In other food fascism news, the U.S Guv'ment is telling you what to eat!!!

BASTARDS!!!!!!

[Shady]

So I guess Shady never could find a specific issue with Michelle Obama's overtures to the food industry.

In other food fascism news, the U.S Guv'ment is telling you what to eat!!!

Actually I did find specifics, and outlined them. Your link is exactly what I think she should be doing. However, asking businesses to change their menues and recipes is micromanaging on a level that she has no businesses poking her nose in.

[BubberMiley]

However, asking businesses to change their menues and recipes is micromanaging on a level that she has no businesses poking her nose in.

You don't know the difference between "asking" and "telling", do you?

[CANADIEN]

He called me an apologist for hatred related to this thread. Apparently I was apologizing for myself!

Bubbles never ceases to entertain!

The one entertaining thing is your hatred of the Obama family. Don't worry, I do not think it's because of their skin colour. It is because they hold opinions to the left of Attila the Hun.

There is nothing in Michelle Obama's initatives that smacks of government intervention or people being dictated what to do. Nothing. Nada. rien.

[Shady]

There is nothing in Michelle Obama's initatives that smacks of government intervention or people being dictated what to do. Nothing. Nada. rien.

She should stick to advocating healthy food, and stay out of the kitchens of Restaurants. Asking them to change their recipies is none of her business. As is changing the foods they offer. That's up to them, and essentially their clients/customers.

[Smallc]

She should stick to advocating healthy food, and stay out of the kitchens of Restaurants. Asking them to change their recipies is none of her business. As is changing the foods they offer. That's up to them, and essentially their clients/customers.

IF she asks them to do something, it's still up to them. I still can't believe that you and others even think that you have an argument here.

[Shady]

IF she asks them to do something, it's still up to them. I still can't believe that you and others even think that you have an argument here.

I still can't believe so many people are being so obtuse. She's asked for a closed-door meeting. She also has the potential backing of the President of the United States. Not to mention that state governments have already started practicing kitchen police on their own. A meeting with the fist lady carries a tad more weight than a normal so-called "ask."

Like I said, advocating and campaigning for people to eat better is one thing. Asking for meetings with businesses in attempts to change their menues and recipies is entirely different. It's none of her business. Restaurants are at the service of their clients/customer's food demands, not what the first lady would like them to be.

[Smallc]

I still can't believe so many people are being so obtuse. She's asked for a closed-door meeting.

My only question is this - did she wear jack boots to the meeting?

She also has the potential backing of the President of the United States.

I'd say she's definitely getting a fronting from him, but I'm not sure how he feels about....never mind.

Not to mention that state governments have already started practicing kitchen police on their own.

You're all over the place here. What does that have to do with her or BHO?

A meeting with the fist lady carries a tad more weight than a normal so-called "ask."

Does it? If it does, who cares? It's still not an issue. The reality is, she's right.

Like I said, advocating and campaigning for people to eat better is one thing. Asking for meetings with businesses in attempts to change their menues and recipies is entirely different.

No it isn't. That's part of te campaign. If she doesn't have business on side, it becomes much harder for people to make the right choices.

It's none of her business. Restaurants are at the service of their clients/customer's food demands, not what the first lady would like them to be.

Then it actually is her business, as a customer/client.

Like I said, you're simply trying to manufacture something where nothing exists.

[waldo]

Restaurants are at the service of their clients/customer's food demands, not what the first lady would like them to be.

ya, the nerve of that Obama lady... Shady, good on ya for stepping forward and speaking up for the fat kids rights to... get fatter!

did ya hear? Obama is taking on the NRA! (uhhh... quick note to Saipan... don't worry... that's just the National Restaurants Association). Imagine, just imagine - advocating for smaller portion sizes and the substitution of healthier alternatives in place of French fries and other fatty side dishes... oh, the horror!

[CANADIEN]

She should stick to advocating healthy food, and stay out of the kitchens of Restaurants. Asking them to change their recipies is none of her business. As is changing the foods they offer. That's up to them, and essentially their clients/customers.

Advocating for restaurants to change their practices is as much her business as it is anybody else's. I wouldn't believe that your hatred for her and her husband is so deep to you would be that oblivious to that simple of a fact. But then, coming from you, it does not come as a surprise at all.

[bloodyminded]

The previous president's wife promoted literacy intiatives.

Actively promoted them.

Nancy Reagan was all about avoiding drug use.

Michelle Obama has taken on healthy eating as her project.

All of this is perfectly fine.

This is what First Ladies do.

Edited March 6, 2011 by bloodyminded

[Black Dog]

I still can't believe so many people are being so obtuse. She's asked for a closed-door meeting. She also has the potential backing of the President of the United States. Not to mention that state governments have already started practicing kitchen police on their own. A meeting with the fist lady carries a tad more weight than a normal so-called "ask."

Even now, Predator drones are circling the nation's Olive Gardens, awaiting the strike order from FLOTUS.

Like I said, advocating and campaigning for people to eat better is one thing. Asking for meetings with businesses in attempts to change their menues and recipies is entirely different.

It's actually not. What do you think advocacy means, anyway?

[Shakeyhands]

It's actually not. What do you think advocacy means, anyway?

Please hold as Mr Beck is contacted for the correct answer.

[bloodyminded]

Even now, Predator drones are circling the nation's Olive Gardens, awaiting the strike order from FLOTUS.

Nice.

[bloodyminded]

Please hold as Mr Beck is contacted for the correct answer.

Perhaps "advocacy" is equally sinister to other communist plots, like the hateful "social justice."

[CANADIEN]

Even now, Predator drones are circling the nation's Olive Gardens, awaiting the strike order from FLOTUS.

Here's the First Family proving once again that they're a bunch of secret Muslims. They should go after falafel joints. Everyone knows they're part of a Muslim plot to poison Americans.

Edited March 8, 2011 by CANADIEN

[pinko]

Here's the First Family proving once again that they're a bunch of secret Muslims. They should go after falafel joints. Everyone knows they're part of a Muslim plot to poison Americans.

I quite enjoy eating falafels.

[CANADIEN]

I quite enjoy eating falafels.

You anti-Canadian you

[Shady]

Even now, Predator drones are circling the nation's Olive Gardens, awaiting the strike order from FLOTUS.

All from The New York Times link I posted.

A team of advisers to Mrs. Obama has been holding private talks

Mrs. Obama and her team are also quietly pressing the levers of industry and government

She challenged restaurant owners to change their menus, recipes and marketing practices

That goes beyond simple advocacy. Advocating people eat healthy, and informing them of proper foods is fine. Telling Restaurants to change their recipies, and how to market them is none of her businesses.

Not only that, but can't somebody enjoy these foods in moderation? Why do recipies and menus hav to change for everyone, because some fat slob can't control themselves? What's next? Having Jack Daniels cut its alcohol percentage in half because some people can't stop drinking too much?