Jack Weber Posted February 20, 2011 Report Posted February 20, 2011 And this one is guaranteed to get ugly,folks.. Col. Khaddaffi( Ghadafi,Ghaddaffi???) does'nt take dissent lightly... http://news.sympatico.ctv.ca/home/snipers_open_fire_on_mourners_in_libya_killing_15/86827d93 Quote The beatings will continue until morale improves!!!
lukin Posted February 20, 2011 Report Posted February 20, 2011 And this one is guaranteed to get ugly,folks.. Col. Khaddaffi( Ghadafi,Ghaddaffi???) does'nt take dissent lightly... http://news.sympatico.ctv.ca/home/snipers_open_fire_on_mourners_in_libya_killing_15/86827d93 The boys in Yemen don't like what is happening either. I hope to see some Human Rights protesters in the streets of Tripoli in Sana'a...those brave black bloq protesters. Quote
bloodyminded Posted February 20, 2011 Report Posted February 20, 2011 (edited) The boys in Yemen don't like what is happening either. I hope to see some Human Rights protesters in the streets of Tripoli in Sana'a...those brave black bloq protesters. The leaders of the Western democracies don't much like what's happening in Yemen either, or any uprising against tyrant allies and clients. They much prefer the oppressive dictators torturing and killing people than being overthrown by democratic forces. Edited February 20, 2011 by bloodyminded Quote As scarce as truth is, the supply has always been in excess of the demand. --Josh Billings
Topaz Posted February 20, 2011 Report Posted February 20, 2011 The leaders of the Western democracies don't much like what's happening in Yemen either, or any uprising against tyrant allies and clients. They much prefer the oppressive dictators torturing and killing people than being overthrown by democratic forces. Both, Harper and Obama have condemned the violence but I wonder how they would handle an up rise if they were face with one. Quote
bloodyminded Posted February 20, 2011 Report Posted February 20, 2011 Both, Harper and Obama have condemned the violence but I wonder how they would handle an up rise if they were face with one. The same way. Quote As scarce as truth is, the supply has always been in excess of the demand. --Josh Billings
Bryan Posted February 20, 2011 Report Posted February 20, 2011 The same way. If there were an actual armed uprising here, we'd expect and applaud it being dealt with the same way too. Heck we might even complain that they weren't doing enough. Quote
eyeball Posted February 20, 2011 Report Posted February 20, 2011 The same way. I suspect Harper would apply extreme prejudice. Crack down and get tough and all that. Quote A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding.
myata Posted February 20, 2011 Report Posted February 20, 2011 There are reports that army barracks in the city of Bengazi have been breached. Sometimes it takes what it takes to earn and defend freedom. We forget it too easily. My hopes are with the people of Bengazi, Lybia, Bahrein, Yemen. Quote If it's you or them, the truth is equidistant
bloodyminded Posted February 20, 2011 Report Posted February 20, 2011 There are reports that army barracks in the city of Bengazi have been breached. Sometimes it takes what it takes to earn and defend freedom. We forget it too easily. My hopes are with the people of Bengazi, Lybia, Bahrein, Yemen. Definitely. I'm honestly surprised (yes, I still have the capacity) that the same voices who preach forever about the wonders of freedom and democracy--going so far as to call opponents of the Iraq War anti-demnocratic (a whole other can of worms, but nevermind)--seem to be the same people preaching for the "stability" of Western backed despots. Quote As scarce as truth is, the supply has always been in excess of the demand. --Josh Billings
GostHacked Posted February 20, 2011 Report Posted February 20, 2011 Gadhafi will be the next puppet to fall on his own sword, on direction from the western rulers. Quote
Moonlight Graham Posted February 20, 2011 Report Posted February 20, 2011 And this one is guaranteed to get ugly,folks.. Col. Khaddaffi( Ghadafi,Ghaddaffi???) does'nt take dissent lightly... http://news.sympatico.ctv.ca/home/snipers_open_fire_on_mourners_in_libya_killing_15/86827d93 you think any government that isn't democratic is fascist dont you? Quote "All generalizations are false, including this one." - Mark Twain Partisanship is a disease of the intellect.
bloodyminded Posted February 20, 2011 Report Posted February 20, 2011 Gadhafi will be the next puppet to fall on his own sword, on direction from the western rulers. There's a lot going on, a lot of regimes at least potentially in trouble...and I wonder how many balls the Western leaders can keep in the air? Quote As scarce as truth is, the supply has always been in excess of the demand. --Josh Billings
Michael Hardner Posted February 20, 2011 Report Posted February 20, 2011 How much has the West invested in bringing Libya back inside the tent ? I doubt that they will throw them under the bus for killing their own people. This is realpolitik we're seeing now. Things are so complicated that it seems to me that the US cable news networks are having a difficult time editorializing as they like to do - no easy answers here. Quote Click to learn why Climate Change is caused by HUMANS Michael Hardner
GostHacked Posted February 20, 2011 Report Posted February 20, 2011 How much has the West invested in bringing Libya back inside the tent ? I doubt that they will throw them under the bus for killing their own people. This is realpolitik we're seeing now. Things are so complicated that it seems to me that the US cable news networks are having a difficult time editorializing as they like to do - no easy answers here. I beleive it is all manufactured. Just watch out for the small distractions that take away from the bigger picture. It's Lybia or Algeria. Quote
bloodyminded Posted February 20, 2011 Report Posted February 20, 2011 (edited) How much has the West invested in bringing Libya back inside the tent ? I doubt that they will throw them under the bus for killing their own people. This is realpolitik we're seeing now. Things are so complicated that it seems to me that the US cable news networks are having a difficult time editorializing as they like to do - no easy answers here. No...unless North America gets involved militarily, after which "bringing democracy" is a self-evident good. Othewise, it's dangerous, full of potential threats, and we must appreciate the nuances.... Edited February 20, 2011 by bloodyminded Quote As scarce as truth is, the supply has always been in excess of the demand. --Josh Billings
Mr.Canada Posted February 20, 2011 Report Posted February 20, 2011 (edited) And this one is guaranteed to get ugly,folks.. Col. Khaddaffi( Ghadafi,Ghaddaffi???) does'nt take dissent lightly... http://news.sympatico.ctv.ca/home/snipers_open_fire_on_mourners_in_libya_killing_15/86827d93 Have you not read the full name of Lybia? Great Socialist People's Libyan Arab Jamahiriya). It isn't a fascist state it's an Islamic socialist one. 200 protesters have been murdered by the socialist government and Obama is saying nothing about it. You see Lybia has the type of government that the socialist-Islamic alliance wants. It's Islamic and it's socialist. Edited February 20, 2011 by Mr.Canada Quote "You are scum for insinuating that isn't the case you snake." -William Ashley Canadian Immigration Reform Blog
bloodyminded Posted February 20, 2011 Report Posted February 20, 2011 (edited) Have you not read the full name of Lybia? Great Socialist People's Libyan Arab Jamahiriya). It isn't a fascist state it's an Islamic socialist one. 200 protesters have been murdered by the socialist government and Obama is saying nothing about it. You see Lybia has the type of government that the socialist-Islamic alliance wants. It's Islamic and it's socialist. Ah. So China really is a "People's" Republic. At any rate, do you think we should attack and bomb the people of Libya to quash the unrest, as you propose for Egypt? Edited February 20, 2011 by bloodyminded Quote As scarce as truth is, the supply has always been in excess of the demand. --Josh Billings
bush_cheney2004 Posted February 20, 2011 Report Posted February 20, 2011 At any rate, do you think we should attack and bomb the people of Libya to quash the unrest, as you propose for Egypt? Attack and bomb them with what? Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
GostHacked Posted February 20, 2011 Report Posted February 20, 2011 Attack and bomb them with what? You tell me Mr. USA. Quote
lukin Posted February 21, 2011 Report Posted February 21, 2011 Gadafhi's son has warned of a potential civil war. Things are going to get very nasty in Libya. http://www.winnipegfreepress.com/breakingnews/libyans-in-benghazi-mass-for-another-day-of-protests-internet-service-cut-again-116556568.html Quote
Jack Weber Posted February 21, 2011 Author Report Posted February 21, 2011 you think any government that isn't democratic is fascist dont you? I think Pan-Arab Nationalists (Ba'Athists) are indeed Fascists... Look into their historical motivations...Abmittedly,Khaddaffi is bit more amorphous than the likes of the Assad's in Syria,or Mr.Mubarak in Egypt... Quote The beatings will continue until morale improves!!!
Jack Weber Posted February 21, 2011 Author Report Posted February 21, 2011 Have you not read the full name of Lybia? Great Socialist People's Libyan Arab Jamahiriya). It isn't a fascist state it's an Islamic socialist one. 200 protesters have been murdered by the socialist government and Obama is saying nothing about it. You see Lybia has the type of government that the socialist-Islamic alliance wants. It's Islamic and it's socialist. By your (silly and simpleminded) semantic arguement,I should infer that East Germany being called the German Democratic Republic was really a paradise of democracy... Quote The beatings will continue until morale improves!!!
Jack Weber Posted February 21, 2011 Author Report Posted February 21, 2011 No...unless North America gets involved militarily, after which "bringing democracy" is a self-evident good. Othewise, it's dangerous, full of potential threats, and we must appreciate the nuances.... Agreed... In the cases of Algeria and Yemen in particular,my guess is if they are given the chance to actually have a representative democracy (which I don't think the powers that be ever allow them to do),both would most likely elect Islamofascists to power... Quote The beatings will continue until morale improves!!!
Jack Weber Posted February 21, 2011 Author Report Posted February 21, 2011 Gadafhi's son has warned of a potential civil war. Things are going to get very nasty in Libya. http://www.winnipegfreepress.com/breakingnews/libyans-in-benghazi-mass-for-another-day-of-protests-internet-service-cut-again-116556568.html Fascist totalitarians bloodthirsty??? IMPOSSIBLE!!!! Quote The beatings will continue until morale improves!!!
Mr.Canada Posted February 21, 2011 Report Posted February 21, 2011 Fascist totalitarians bloodthirsty??? IMPOSSIBLE!!!! Lybia is a socialist/Islamic state not fascist one. Quote "You are scum for insinuating that isn't the case you snake." -William Ashley Canadian Immigration Reform Blog
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