Sir Bandelot Posted November 16, 2010 Report Posted November 16, 2010 We should allow anyone to speak at our universities, including Blatchford and the chick from United States. Also people like Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, Kim Jong Il, and Ayman Al-Zawahiri. Give them all a megaphone. Quote
Michael Hardner Posted November 16, 2010 Report Posted November 16, 2010 They should have let her speak. I remember a plot line on the 70s series "The Paper Chase" that was exactly about this very thing. These people shouldn't be considered typical liberals, any more than the conservatives on this thread who want to beat them up should be considered typical. Quote Click to learn why Climate Change is caused by HUMANS Michael Hardner
Shakeyhands Posted November 16, 2010 Report Posted November 16, 2010 They should have let her speak. I remember a plot line on the 70s series "The Paper Chase" that was exactly about this very thing. These people shouldn't be considered typical liberals, any more than the conservatives on this thread who want to beat them up should be considered typical. faaaaaaaaar left fringe NDP supporters.... Quote "They muddy the water, to make it seem deep." - Friedrich Nietzsche
Bonam Posted November 16, 2010 Report Posted November 16, 2010 Are you sure it is only a disgrace to "Canadian institutions of post-secondary education as a whole?" Why not Canada as a whole? Heck, let's not stop there, how about Western Civilization as a whole? Or, by extension, all of humankind as a whole? Or all living things as a whole? How about we agree that it was a discrace to all objects and concepts in all universes as a whole? Gosh, no, that would be hyperbole. Shrug, perhaps I went too far to apply it to Canadian post-secondary institutions as a whole, though no doubt the events would have proceeded little differently at most other Canadian universities, but it is certainly a disgrace to Waterloo. Quote
Shady Posted November 17, 2010 Author Report Posted November 17, 2010 By "not at all" do you mean "precisely", or do you know nothing of the history of fascism? Your equating of the use of force to fascism is juvenile. When one fights for freedom, one isn't being fascist. Your mindset is bizarre to say the least. Quote
Wild Bill Posted November 17, 2010 Report Posted November 17, 2010 (edited) But they got their message out. Why are you trying to suppress them? Just another example of right wingers trying to shut down the free expression of ideas. And why so quick to resort to violence? And what was their message? Seems like it was "Hi! Nice to see that you've gone to a lot of time and trouble to have yourself a meeting with a speaker that interested you. However, we're here to act like douchebags to make sure that your meeting will be ruined and you will not get to hear your speaker! We're doing this as an exercise of our right to free speech. As for your right to have your own meeting, too bad, so sad, we simply don't respect that. Now, aren't all you casual observers out there in mainstream Canada impressed with us?" I mean, calling Blatchford a racist? That just shows their ignorance! Anyone who has ever followed her writings would know that to accuse her of racism is about as ridiculous as accusing Mother Theresa of the same crime! They obviously were just looking for a convenient strawman symbol and Blatchford was the only one handy. Drama queens, the lot of them! Douchebags and thugs, as well. Just parasites who seek publicity by ruining someone else's parade. It takes wit and effort to plan and organize an event. Any adolescent moron can walk in and disrupt it. God help me if one of them ever turns out to be my surgeon! Edited November 17, 2010 by Wild Bill Quote "A government which robs Peter to pay Paul can always depend on the support of Paul." -- George Bernard Shaw "There is no point in being difficult when, with a little extra effort, you can be completely impossible."
scribblet Posted November 17, 2010 Report Posted November 17, 2010 You'll love it, Scrib! Better get a copy quickly before CR and his crowd start burning it... LOL I'm heading south in a few days and found a place on line that's cheaper than Amazon so will order it when I get down there. Too bad people don't want to read a factual accounting of what happened, and too bad that issues like this cannot be discussed in a civil manner without the name calling, as evidently the name calling does work to suppress viewpoints the left doesn't like. It was a doctoral student too, sheez, but I suppose this is what the universities are churning out these days - too bad. Quote Hey Ho - Ontario Liberals Have to Go - Fight Wynne - save our province
M.Dancer Posted November 17, 2010 Report Posted November 17, 2010 I find it odd somebody bothered to protest Christie Blatchford. Agreed... Quote RIGHT of SOME, LEFT of OTHERS If it is a choice between them and us, I choose us
M.Dancer Posted November 17, 2010 Report Posted November 17, 2010 What is she famous for? I know she's a newspaper writer but I never heard of her name connected to any controversy. Not much....she was a sun "nothing" columnist in the 80s...writing about nothing before Seinfeld made it famous...her beat is justice, war....actually, he beat is what ever she wants it to be. Quote RIGHT of SOME, LEFT of OTHERS If it is a choice between them and us, I choose us
charter.rights Posted November 17, 2010 Report Posted November 17, 2010 Not much....she was a sun "nothing" columnist in the 80s...writing about nothing before Seinfeld made it famous...her beat is justice, war....actually, he beat is what ever she wants it to be. "Her beat" is whatever she can write about that doesn't require any effort. Quote “Safeguarding the rights of others is the most noble and beautiful end of a human being.” Kahlil Gibran “Great spirits have always encountered violent opposition from mediocre minds.” Albert Einstein
pfezziwig Posted November 17, 2010 Report Posted November 17, 2010 The Left are all for free speech...when it agrees with their point of view. Ironic that the Left are less tolerant than the Right, the Right sure are apathetic these days, or afraid? Quote Healthcare Reviews , rate your doctor, dentist, hospital and more
M.Dancer Posted November 17, 2010 Report Posted November 17, 2010 "Her beat" is whatever she can write about that doesn't require any effort. No of course not. Spending time in Kandahar was just like going to the spa for her... Quote RIGHT of SOME, LEFT of OTHERS If it is a choice between them and us, I choose us
g_bambino Posted November 17, 2010 Report Posted November 17, 2010 No of course not. Spending time in Kandahar was just like going to the spa for her... I wonder if Charter managed to get the bike lock off from around his neck. Quote
kimmy Posted November 17, 2010 Report Posted November 17, 2010 But they got their message out. Why are you trying to suppress them? Just another example of right wingers trying to shut down the free expression of ideas. And why so quick to resort to violence? People with differing views handed out their material to people entering the auditorium without incident, as this article explains. The same group also held a "teach-in" which was not disrupted by protesters. These morons were allowed to express themselves, without incident. If that had been all they had done, we wouldn't have a thread here, would we, Bubbles. When they took to the stage, as Marigold herself explained: “We don’t want people who are really, really racist teaching [the people we love],” said Marigold of Blatchford. “And we don’t want that person to have a public forum because it makes it dangerous for others in the public forum.” “Our goal was to not let her speak, we accomplished that.” -Tallula Marigold. It appears that some people believe that every single little event is elaborately emblematic. Well, maybe not elaborately emblematic... but there seems to be a bit of a trend. -k Quote (╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻ Friendly forum facilitator! ┬──┬◡ﾉ(° -°ﾉ)
The_Squid Posted November 17, 2010 Report Posted November 17, 2010 ...viewpoints the left doesn't like. Bullshit. I'm "the left" and I have read her columns and agreed with much of what she has said. Your attempt to make these "protestors" into mainstream leftists does your argument no good. It makes you seem like a kook. Quote
The_Squid Posted November 17, 2010 Report Posted November 17, 2010 "Her beat" is whatever she can write about that doesn't require any effort. OK... so what? Does this mean that she isn't allowed to give presentations at universities? Quote
DogOnPorch Posted November 17, 2010 Report Posted November 17, 2010 The woman has been stuck in firefights against the Taliban...that's easy-breezy effortless. Quote Nothing cracks a turtle like Leon Uris.
Who's Doing What? Posted November 17, 2010 Report Posted November 17, 2010 "Leftist Fascists" Shady you just drive home how partisan you are. Get a life. She should have been allowed to speak. To let a small group of hooligans ruin it is pathetic. Someone change the thread title because this has nothing to do with political leanings. Shame on you shady. :angry: Quote Harper differed with his party on some key policy issues; in 1995, for example, he was one of only two Reform MPs to vote in favour of federal legislation requiring owners to register their guns. http://www.mapleleafweb.com/election/bio/harper.html "You've got to remember that west of Winnipeg the ridings the Liberals hold are dominated by people who are either recent Asian immigrants or recent migrants from eastern Canada: people who live in ghettoes and who are not integrated into western Canadian society." (Stephen Harper, Report Newsmagazine, January 22, 2001)
Shady Posted November 17, 2010 Author Report Posted November 17, 2010 Someone change the thread title because this has nothing to do with political leanings. Shame on you shady. It has everything to do with political leanings. This is just another example, in a long line of examples of how leftists love to shut down free speech. Quote
The_Squid Posted November 17, 2010 Report Posted November 17, 2010 It has everything to do with political leanings. This is just another example, in a long line of examples of how leftists love to shut down free speech. I'm "leftist" and I think they should have been tossed from the event. Ergo, all leftists support free speech, just like me, no? Or is that a generalization that has no merit? Is there a spectrum from all political leanings that would rather not hav the opposition voices heard? Isn't that more accurate? Or do you stand by your statement that all leftists want to "shut down free speech"? Quote
Jack Weber Posted November 17, 2010 Report Posted November 17, 2010 (edited) Your equating of the use of force to fascism is juvenile. When one fights for freedom, one isn't being fascist. Your mindset is bizarre to say the least. So...We can take it that the above obfuscation(and who did'nt see that coming)is an essential "No" when it comes to history or any appreciable knowledge of Fascism??? Leftist Fascist/Brownshirts... You take the cake,Professor... Edited November 17, 2010 by Jack Weber Quote The beatings will continue until morale improves!!!
Jack Weber Posted November 17, 2010 Report Posted November 17, 2010 It has everything to do with political leanings. This is just another example, in a long line of examples of how leftists love to shut down free speech. Yeah,but you called them "Fascists" and "Brownshirts"... A tad incongruent... Quote The beatings will continue until morale improves!!!
scribblet Posted November 17, 2010 Report Posted November 17, 2010 In this case it does seem to be appropriate, heck doesn't it really amaze you how some protesters believe that they are defending free speech by denying the other side an opportunity to be heard. Free speech is certainly not alive and well in Canada and this is just another horrific example. What benefit is there to a university education if all it does it teach how to ignore other view points and shut them down rather than to think critically by exploring alternatives. Sad.... Quote Hey Ho - Ontario Liberals Have to Go - Fight Wynne - save our province
G.P. Lehmann Posted November 17, 2010 Report Posted November 17, 2010 (edited) One can easily see this is a reoccurring theme in post secondary institutions. As a present student I am inundated with far left views on a daily basis. The professors don't try to hide their political views and the students refuse to challenge them out of fear of retribution or possibly respect, thinking these academics are far too worldly to be questioned. Unfortunately some students mindlessly subscribe to the far left propaganda they are shown and this is the product; an attempt to silence all those who disagree with them. Edited November 17, 2010 by G.P. Lehmann Quote
Michael Hardner Posted November 17, 2010 Report Posted November 17, 2010 One can easily see this is a reoccurring theme in post secondary institutions. As a present student I am inundated with far left views on a daily basis. The professors don't try to hide their political views and the students refuse to challenge them out of fear of retribution or possibly respect, thinking these academics are far too worldly to be questioned. Unfortunately some students mindlessly subscribe to the far left propaganda they are shown and this is the product; an attempt to silence all those who disagree with them. Similarly, in the business world there is no holding back in one's views that labour is greedy, lazy, and that work is better when it's shipped to offshore countries with cheaper labour. There's only so much you can mitigate the prevailing political environment in any area of human activity. Quote Click to learn why Climate Change is caused by HUMANS Michael Hardner
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