Chrisitne O'donnell wins Delaware

[Pliny]

ha! See... here's the thing Pliny... wiki has an edit audit/history and a feature that allows you to compare versions... you can also report/flag concerns you may have with editing... and, of course, you can add your own edits. Now, the Coons wiki page I've just scanned, states that shortly after college, "He then worked as a volunteer for the South African Council of Churches and as a relief worker in Kenya". Did you add it back in Pliny? (of course, if you're reluctant to state you edited Coons wiki page to correct a most egregious omission (/snarc), as I stated, you could be very precise (to the respective id/edit#) to support your claim that it was edited out... and put back in. You could do that, hey Pliny? Or we can just accept another example of "Pliny facts" are on display!

I don't look at wikipedia that often, waldo. Thanks for the information. See. Though banal and pedantic you can serve a purpose.

Edited September 18, 2010 by Pliny

[waldo]

ha! See... here's the thing Pliny... wiki has an edit audit/history and a feature that allows you to compare versions... you can also report/flag concerns you may have with editing... and, of course, you can add your own edits. Now, the Coons wiki page I've just scanned, states that shortly after college, "He then worked as a volunteer for the South African Council of Churches and as a relief worker in Kenya". Did you add it back in Pliny? (of course, if you're reluctant to state you edited Coons wiki page to correct a most egregious omission (/snarc), as I stated, you could be very precise (to the respective id/edit#) to support your claim that it was edited out... and put back in. You could do that, hey Pliny? Or we can just accept another example of "Pliny facts" are on display!

I don't look at wikipedia that often, waldo. Thanks for the information. See. Though banal and pedantic you can serve a purpose.

hey - thanks buddy... you can be sure any attention to detail (I may have, as you suggest) will most certainly rise to any occasion (call it predictable, as you suggest) to show your deep, deep insights!

[punked]

She was pretty young then, but she didn't say she wanted it outlawed or banned that is just no true.

No,I wouldn't vote for her but she's going to need really broad shoulders because she's going to have to endure a lot of attacks, just as with Sara Palin. The politics of demonization.

She did say this, which is true

Read more: http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0910/42348.html#ixzz0ztE0z5gL

She however did say she believes in legislating morality and if you don't you would just be legislating the other sides morality.

[scribblet]

What she said was:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/09/16/christine-odonnell-slams-_n_719201.html

"misconception that you, quote unquote, can't legislate morality."

"The reality of that statement is that if you don't legislate one morality then you are legislating somebody else's morality," she said. "So you can't get around legislating morality."

To her point, she offered a lengthy denunciation of the government's implementation of welfare and food stamps, blaming the two programs for fostering laziness and encouraging drug use.

"I think that drug use is out of control here and there is something called tough love and what has happened with the liberal welfare program implemented in the last decade is they have cultivated an attitude of dependency," O'Donnell said. "The reality is, especially in my own city here in D.C., is that a lot of those people who do deal drugs are using federal money that they get from welfare programs. We need to implement a tough love program.

She's not exactly advocating that we outlaw anything, which would be pretty darned stupid if she did. She's right actually, if you legislate that abortion is illegal you support the anti-abortion crowd's morality but if you legalize it, then you are legislating in favour of pro-choice morality. Usually what you give to one, is taken from another, hopefully there's a middle ground, and I don't mean specifically abortion, that was just an example of legislating morality.

[Shady]

We legislate morality all the time. Having laws against murder, theft, even animal abuse is legislating morality.

[BubberMiley]

We legislate morality all the time. Having laws against murder, theft, even animal abuse is legislating morality.

That's true. Homosexuality was illegal for many years. The Montana GOP would even like to make it so again.

[punked]

We legislate morality all the time. Having laws against murder, theft, even animal abuse is legislating morality.

Those are issues which hurt others Shady. That is not Morality it is Freedom. You have the freedom to not be effected adversely by someone else and when their actions do effect you we make that illegal.

[Jack Weber]

Jack - Frightened? That's impossible!

Frightened of a kook like O'Donnell???

Not likely...She is,frankly,laughable...

A mass movement gathering around kooks like O'Donnell???

That should frighten any sane person....

[bloodyminded]

Now were using this to start cloning humans. … They are they are doing that here in the United States. American scientific companies are cross-breeding humans and animals and coming up with mice with fully functioning human brains. [O'Reilly Factor, 10/16/07]

Now too many people are blindly accepting evolution as fact. But when you get down to the hard evidence, its merely a theory. … Well, creationism, in essence, is believing that the world began as the Bible in Genesis says, that God created the Earth in six days, six 24-hour periods. And there is just as much, if not more, evidence supporting that. [New York Magazine, 9/15/10

Edited September 18, 2010 by bloodyminded

[Jack Weber]

Look...I'm a Christian,but I'm not a biblical literalist...Some of The Bible is not to be taken literally,particularily things that any sane person can see.And frankly,anyone that does think like this is not fit for public office...Ever....

[Shady]

Those are issues which hurt others Shady. That is not Morality it is Freedom.

Yeah, how about drug laws? How about assisted suicide? How about statutory rape? We legislate morality all the time.

[BubberMiley]

It's true that given the existing drug laws, banning masturbation isn't much of a stretch.

[BubberMiley]

Stretch....heh.

[Shady]

It's true that given the existing drug laws, banning masturbation isn't much of a stretch.

That would be a stretch. But nobody's suggesting banning any such thing.

[Pliny]

Frightened of a kook like O'Donnell???

Not likely...She is,frankly,laughable...

A mass movement gathering around kooks like O'Donnell???

That should frighten any sane person....

You're the one who said it was frightening.

[ToadBrother]

They obsess with it it in order to paint her as a wild eyed radical, I read on another site that she wanted to 'outlaw' masturbation and adultery. She's never said any such thing, she just feels that it's wrong, words said when she was much younger.

This is typical Alinsky politics of demonization and for the most part it works, look what they did and are doing to Sarah Palin.

Oh come on. Whatever else Palin is, she's a bloody moron. Her claim to fame is that McCain needed someone with social conservative credentials, but a bit of an outsider so as not to have another Dick Cheney. Of course it got out of hand for McCain, but I figure he was doomed anyways. As to the woman herself, she's a moron. She ran a state that has much bloody oil and mineral revenue flowing in that a brain-damaged lemur would find it all but impossible to spend it all. She is a profoundly stupid woman who has been adopted by the wing-nut end of the Republican spectrum, who have themselves lost control to a bunch of Tea Party crazies. At best, she's George W. Bush Part 2, or more frighteningly, possibly an even more manipulable halfwit than the faux-Texan New England frat 'tard.

You don't have to love Democrats, goodness knows Obama has been an enormous disappointment, to the point where even a lot of very dedicated Democrats are not so silently muttering under their breath that whatever promise he showed in the election, he doesn't have it now.

But support that half-witted gas bag, Palin? She deserves every bloody insult thrown at her. She's a moron that's going through some sort of Politics Extreme Makeover. But it's all just ideological lipstick and implants. There's got to be better people for the GOP to bring forward, but of course that Tea Party will run over anyone that doesn't dance to the Beck-Limbaugh-Palin Goosestep.

[Shady]

At best, she's George W. Bush Part 2, or more frighteningly, possibly an even more manipulable halfwit than the faux-Texan New England frat 'tard.

Or even worse, she's Obama Part 2. A pure celebrity, no-nothing politician, that gets vaulted into power by a wave of idiotic voters chanting lame platitudes like "yes we can." Basically an affirmative-action candidate, shallow, void of substance, and a total lack of experience. That could be her, minus the experience part. She actually has some of that.

[Pliny]

Oh come on. Whatever else Palin is, she's a bloody moron. Her claim to fame is that McCain needed someone with social conservative credentials, but a bit of an outsider so as not to have another Dick Cheney. Of course it got out of hand for McCain, but I figure he was doomed anyways. As to the woman herself, she's a moron. She ran a state that has much bloody oil and mineral revenue flowing in that a brain-damaged lemur would find it all but impossible to spend it all. She is a profoundly stupid woman who has been adopted by the wing-nut end of the Republican spectrum, who have themselves lost control to a bunch of Tea Party crazies. At best, she's George W. Bush Part 2, or more frighteningly, possibly an even more manipulable halfwit than the faux-Texan New England frat 'tard.

You don't have to love Democrats, goodness knows Obama has been an enormous disappointment, to the point where even a lot of very dedicated Democrats are not so silently muttering under their breath that whatever promise he showed in the election, he doesn't have it now.

But support that half-witted gas bag, Palin? She deserves every bloody insult thrown at her. She's a moron that's going through some sort of Politics Extreme Makeover. But it's all just ideological lipstick and implants. There's got to be better people for the GOP to bring forward, but of course that Tea Party will run over anyone that doesn't dance to the Beck-Limbaugh-Palin Goosestep.

A typical fan of Saul Alinsky, I presume?

Let's talk political issues since that is the present concern of most Americans and really, I think the whole tea party movement is to remove those in Washington who think they have the power and return it to the people.

I recently heard Pelosi say she didn't have time to hear what the media was saying about her. She is so busy she really doesn't have time to listen to anybody and hasn't since she was elected.

If Sarah Palin is a moron at least she is a good moron. Pelosi is an arrogant moron. Nyana-na-na-na-na!

[Jack Weber]

You're the one who said it was frightening.

Well...I've effectively qualified myself then,have'nt I?

[Shady]

If Sarah Palin is a moron at least she is a good moron. Pelosi is an arrogant moron. Nyana-na-na-na-na!

Good call. Nancy Pelosi is the biggest moron I've ever seen in politics, anywhere in the world.

[capricorn]

Final Score: Bringing Down the Elites

This week's upset victories by candidates battling the establishment are not just about politics. They're about culture. They're about a culture of arrogance by an elite group that includes politicians, media elite, union thugs, Wall Street billionaires and a lot of other powerful folks who've been getting a free ride off of tax payers for too long.

The absurdity of the financial bailouts, where billionaire bankers got paid off with middle-class tax dollars, epitomized how anti-democratic the collusion among the elites has become.

But as significant as the bailouts were in galvanizing our frustration and anger, the popular revolt against the establishment, is less against any one, particular group than it is against the entire lot of them, and the way they work together.

That's why things like the ground zero mosque have been folded into this popular uprising. Wherever the established elite think they know better than the majority, wherever they try to characterize the views of the majority as extremist or racist, that's where you'll find the revolt. This isn't Democrat vs. Republican. It's the people versus the establishment.

That's why the establishment of both the Republican and the Democratic Party were overruled by voters, in New York, Delaware and even Washington, D.C. itself. Because the people don't like being told their opinion doesn't count. They don't like be told how they're supposed to vote.

The people are fed up with the establishment telling us that our views on health care, or taxes, or radical Islam are extremist. The elite have been in power so long, they thought they could get away with this crap of painting ordinary, common sense views as radical, but they can't. That's why they're losing at the polls. And folks are not only voting against the elite at the ballot box, they're also voting with their wallets. That's why magazines like Newsweek and Time, which have catered to these views, are dying. They've lost touch with the people. And the people have stopped buying their nonsense.

Of course, the Internet, and organizations like Fox News have also broken the ideological monopoly by which the elite maintained control over the public dialogue. And in the past year, the entire apparatus by which the elite have been using our tax dollars to cover their bad decisions and lousy management show how desperate and full of contempt the elite is about the rest of us. But contempt for the majority has a very short half-life in a democracy like ours. And we are in the midst of a monumental shift in power among those who pull the levers in this land of ours.

The election in November won’t signify an end of the power hold that an interventionist elite has had on this country for decades. But it may very well be the beginning of the end.

http://www.foxbusiness.com/markets/2010/09/16/final-score-bringing-elites/

If this Tea Party I'm reading about forces Democrats and Republicans to do some real soul searching, I think it's a good thing that can only benefit US citizens.

[ToadBrother]

A typical fan of Saul Alinsky, I presume?

Let's talk political issues since that is the present concern of most Americans and really, I think the whole tea party movement is to remove those in Washington who think they have the power and return it to the people.

I recently heard Pelosi say she didn't have time to hear what the media was saying about her. She is so busy she really doesn't have time to listen to anybody and hasn't since she was elected.

If Sarah Palin is a moron at least she is a good moron. Pelosi is an arrogant moron. Nyana-na-na-na-na!

I don't think Palin is a good moron, I think she's a dangerously manipulable moron. She won't return anything to the people, she'll simply be like GWB, a half-wit doing what she's told. I think Obama is preferable to her. Hell, I think Rush Limbaugh would be preferable to her. I think he's a gasbag to, but at least the guy has some brains.

A moron can probably make a good president if he or she has good advisers (I tend to lump Reagan into this department), but look at the people Palin is hanging around with. These are not good people, they're rather ruthless people using her and a pack of deluded Tea Partiers to pretty much overthrow the Republican Party. I'll admit the irony of the GOP being run over by the same people it had so long manipulated is in and of itself a delicious irony, but it's always better the devil you know than the devil you don't.

Imagine a bunch of Trotskyites taking over the Democratic Party, and looking at at least some short term political successes. How happy would you be about that?

[Shady]

(I tend to lump Reagan into this department

If you think Reagan was a moron, than you're a moron. Either that, or you just like to call people you disagree with morons. Regardless, perhaps you should resort to more intellectual arguments instead of tossing the term moron every other sentence. Because you're starting to sound like a complete moron.

[bush_cheney2004]

I don't think Palin is a good moron, I think she's a dangerously manipulable moron. She won't return anything to the people, she'll simply be like GWB, a half-wit doing what she's told. I think Obama is preferable to her. Hell, I think Rush Limbaugh would be preferable to her. I think he's a gasbag to, but at least the guy has some brains.

Return what "to the people"? Compared to which other "gasbags" disguised as politicians? What do you expect? Winston Churchill?

[bush_cheney2004]

If you think Reagan was a moron, than you're a moron. Either that, or you just like to call people you disagree with morons. Regardless, perhaps you should resort to more intellectual arguments instead of tossing the term moron every other sentence. Because you're starting to sound like a complete moron.

Of course....that's just intellectually lazy. Competing for, winning, and maintaining political power takes a lot more than "morons".