Oleg Bach Posted February 17, 2010 Report Share Posted February 17, 2010 Candu efficiency.... NOT FUNNY. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DogOnPorch Posted February 17, 2010 Report Share Posted February 17, 2010 eyeball: Or really stupid - it's clear our original idiocy was climbing into bed with a communist dictator to defeat a socialist one back in WW2. Then we got all close and intimate with Islamo-fascists to defeat the commies. But don't look now - here we are allied with the commies again, this time to defeat democracy of all things. Luckily for the planet, only you and other conspiracy wingnutz actually believe the revisionist crap you spew. Given that we really don't give a shit about democracy after all why we didn't just climb into bed with that socialist dictator instead of the communist one back in WW2 is a bit of a mystery. Merely your opinion. Heavy on the merely part. So...the Moon Landings were faked, I hear. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eyeball Posted February 17, 2010 Report Share Posted February 17, 2010 (edited) Luckily for the planet, only you and other conspiracy wingnutz actually believe the revisionist crap you spew. We aligned with communists to defeat fascists. Then we aligned with dictators and even radical Islamists to defeat communists. Now we're aligned with a corrupt government and communists who are apparently real experts at thwarting opposition to corrupt governments, to defeat Islamists. These are the facts and they are not in dispute. Edited February 17, 2010 by eyeball Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Hardner Posted February 17, 2010 Report Share Posted February 17, 2010 Luckily for the planet, only you and other conspiracy wingnutz actually believe the revisionist crap you spew. Have you ever heard of Stalin ? Are you one of those righties who deny that The West has ever done anything wrong ever, or are you one of the smart, pragmatic ones ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DogOnPorch Posted February 17, 2010 Report Share Posted February 17, 2010 (edited) Have you ever heard of Stalin ? Are you one of those righties who deny that The West has ever done anything wrong ever, or are you one of the smart, pragmatic ones ? Do I go around calling you a 'leftie'? 'Wrong' is rather absolute. Sort of like good and evil when used in this manner. Describe what the West did 'wrong' during the 20th century. In your opinion, of course. Then I can get an idea what 'wrong' is...in your opinion. We aligned with communists to defeat fascists. Then we aligned with dictators and even radical Islamists to defeat communists.Now we're aligned with a corrupt government and communists who are apparently real experts at thwarting opposition to corrupt governments, to defeat Islamists. These are the facts and they are not in dispute. Everything that comes out of your keyboard is in dispute. Your view of history is that of a revisionist. Tell me again about these 'evil doers'...errrrrr...'super-rogues' and their evil super-rogue plans to dominate the planet. Throw your computer out the window before it's too late. Edited February 17, 2010 by DogOnPorch Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Army Guy Posted February 17, 2010 Report Share Posted February 17, 2010 I'm pretty positive Canada has killed thousands of people through the years. Canada's history is written in blood, our blood, and the blood of our enemies. Canada has a long list of things that would make people blush or little girls pee in thier pants....in fact one would be hard pressed to find any one nation within this world of ours that has not got blood still dripping from thier hands....To sum it all up "what is the piont" ? we are not perfect, lets concede to that piont now, nobody is....All that is left is trying to better our selfs day by day, year by year....to which i think for the most part we do all right....But as long as man roams this great earth, there will be a need for wpns and there will be blood split.... We aligned with communists to defeat fascists. Then we aligned with dictators and even radical Islamists to defeat communists We do what is needed to be done for survival, to protect our current freedoms and rights, our way of life, to preserve our postion within the world, we do it for alot of reasons....we don't have to understand them all completely, and there will be times when yes our hands will get bloody, and those standing next to us will reak of death and destruction... But Canadians will continue to wake up in the mornings fill thier faces with egg mac muffins, timmies coffeee , and go to work and make very decent wages....I don't here of anyone saying holly shit look at what we've done to get here....thats it i quit i'm going to the south pole to live the clean life... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Hardner Posted February 17, 2010 Report Share Posted February 17, 2010 Do I go around calling you a 'leftie'? I don't think you have, but certainly 'rightie' isn't an insult either ? Do you think ? 'Wrong' is rather absolute. Sort of like good and evil when used in this manner. Describe what the West did 'wrong' during the 20th century. In your opinion, of course. Then I can get an idea what 'wrong' is...in your opinion. I'm reluctant to use such absolute terms, but I used them deliberately in this instance because The West supported oppression and values that are antithetical to ours as a strategy in the cold war. Some examples include support for the Contras in Nicaragua, who were documented by a Catholic rights group has having a record "bloody abuse of human rights, of murder, torture, mutilation, rape, arson, destruction and kidnapping". Now, having been alive during this period of history and having protested these abuses, it's important to note that US support for these vile terrorists (across the board) ended after the cold war ended. George HW Bush was president around the time that this happened. Everything that comes out of your keyboard is in dispute. Your view of history is that of a revisionist. Tell me again about these 'evil doers'...errrrrr...'super-rogues' and their evil super-rogue plans to dominate the planet. Throw your computer out the window before it's too late. I was ready to read loooong tracts on US covert operations history, so I was relieved to link and find out that they were just pictures. I will debate those who speak as though the US never cleaned up their act, but if you say that we never did anything shameful, then I will debate you too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oleg Bach Posted February 17, 2010 Report Share Posted February 17, 2010 The optics of left right, left right marching tends to cause a vacilating blur and befuddlement of the mind. There always has to be an us and them and a hate generated to weaken the resolve and good judgement of the people..it makes them compliant because they are confused by partizanism..the system is probably working perfectly though it's tacit design...Now if this was for real they would not have release this news of the capture to the public or Bin Laden. IF this was a real war they would have maintained absolute secrecy and captured this Bin Laden fellow. WHY WOULD ANYONE 60 YEARS AGO REVEAL THE FACT THAT THEY HAD THE LOCATION OF HITLER TO HITLER...media is traitorous. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eyeball Posted February 17, 2010 Report Share Posted February 17, 2010 We do what is needed to be done for survival, to protect our current freedoms and rights, our way of life, to preserve our postion within the world, we do it for alot of reasons....we don't have to understand them all completely, and there will be times when yes our hands will get bloody, and those standing next to us will reak of death and destruction... I imagine the spiel Omar Khadr was forced to swallow sounded pretty similar. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oleg Bach Posted February 17, 2010 Report Share Posted February 17, 2010 Media kills our own forces- we announce that such and such is going to take place..that our forces are about to do this and do that- so the Taliban who have been notified of our prospects and potential movements go out ahead of time and plant the road side bombs etc....What the hell is wrong with us..war is not a sporting event- or a PR campaign nor a popularity contest---if you want to be a victor you do not announce pubically to the brute at the bar that you are going to kick his ass- You walk up behind him and hit him unexpectedly over the head with a heavy oak chair---THUS ENSURING VICTORY! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oleg Bach Posted February 17, 2010 Report Share Posted February 17, 2010 IF THEY CAN NOT REEL IN THE REBEL SAUDI PRINCE BIN LADEN THEN THIS WHOLE THING IS A CONSPIRATORIAL FRAUD AND BETRAYAL BY THE OIL MERCHANT WANNA BE KINGS IN WAITING. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DogOnPorch Posted February 17, 2010 Report Share Posted February 17, 2010 I don't think you have, but certainly 'rightie' isn't an insult either ? Do you think ? Being that I'm neither Conservative nor 'right-wing' it isn't terribly accurate. Please don't do it again. DOP or DogOnPorch will do. I'm reluctant to use such absolute terms, but I used them deliberately in this instance because The West supported oppression and values that are antithetical to ours as a strategy in the cold war.Some examples include support for the Contras in Nicaragua, who were documented by a Catholic rights group has having a record "bloody abuse of human rights, of murder, torture, mutilation, rape, arson, destruction and kidnapping". Now, having been alive during this period of history and having protested these abuses, it's important to note that US support for these vile terrorists (across the board) ended after the cold war ended. George HW Bush was president around the time that this happened. Fire-bombing Japanese cities during WW2 is pretty 'antithetical' in itself. I wonder if the American hostages being bargained for during the Iran-Contra Affair thought America's actions 'right' or 'wrong'? I'm not sure if history records their opinions. But I think it does show that 'right' and 'wrong' are relative to one's POV. The Phoenix Program during Viet-Nam was viewed with public distaste, as well. But, it was also one of the few things that actually worked against NVA and VC terrorists operating in South Viet-Nam. I was ready to read loooong tracts on US covert operations history, so I was relieved to link and find out that they were just pictures. I will debate those who speak as though the US never cleaned up their act, but if you say that we never did anything shameful, then I will debate you too. Was I responding to you? You haven't reached the lofty wingnut-conspircy-theorist level that eyeball has achieved. When you do, I'll post you some funny pictures for you, as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eyeball Posted February 17, 2010 Report Share Posted February 17, 2010 Was I responding to you? You haven't reached the lofty wingnut-conspircy-theorist level that eyeball has achieved. When you do, I'll post you some funny pictures for you, as well. We conspired with communists to defeat fascists. Then we conspired with dictators and even radical Islamists to defeat communists. Now we're conspiring with a corrupt government and communists who are apparently real experts at thwarting opposition to corrupt governments, to defeat Islamists. I say again these are the facts and they are not in dispute. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M.Dancer Posted February 17, 2010 Report Share Posted February 17, 2010 We conspired with communists to defeat fascists. Then we conspired with dictators and even radical Islamists to defeat communists. Now we're conspiring with a corrupt government and communists who are apparently real experts at thwarting opposition to corrupt governments, to defeat Islamists. I say again these are the facts and they are not in dispute. We aligned with communists to defeat fascists. Then we aligned with dictators and even radical Islamists to defeat communists. Now we're aligned with a corrupt government and communists who are apparently real experts at thwarting opposition to corrupt governments, to defeat Islamists. These are the facts and they are not in dispute. If they were facts, they would be indispute. As it is you have clearly proven it is nothing more than spam Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DogOnPorch Posted February 17, 2010 Report Share Posted February 17, 2010 We conspired with communists to defeat fascists. Then we conspired with dictators and even radical Islamists to defeat communists. There you have it...WW2 and the Cold War according to Garp...eerrr...eyeball. Who knew we started WW2 just to be able to 'conspire' with Communist governments. Now we're conspiring with a corrupt government and communists who are apparently real experts at thwarting opposition to corrupt governments, to defeat Islamists. Oh noooooooooooo...not the corrupt governments. Maybe we should firebomb them. I say again these are the facts and they are not in dispute. So...the Moon Landings...fake or real? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eyeball Posted February 17, 2010 Report Share Posted February 17, 2010 So...the Moon Landings...fake or real? Every bit as real as anything else I've said above. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DogOnPorch Posted February 17, 2010 Report Share Posted February 17, 2010 Every bit as real as anything else I've said above. So that's a 'no' then. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eyeball Posted February 17, 2010 Report Share Posted February 17, 2010 So that's a 'no' then. That's clearly not what I said now is it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sharkman Posted February 17, 2010 Report Share Posted February 17, 2010 How about this? It's a good think the Pakistani folks have captured this guy. They don't have to worry about being censured for using waterboards to get their information ... they go right to the electrodes. Comments? I am with you on this one. Let the Pakistanis show Obama how information that saves innocent lives should be extracted from this idiot. They should extract the info, then have the guy face military justice and allow the media to record it for the world to see. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oleg Bach Posted February 17, 2010 Report Share Posted February 17, 2010 I am with you on this one. Let the Pakistanis show Obama how information that saves innocent lives should be extracted from this idiot. They should extract the info, then have the guy face military justice and allow the media to record it for the world to see. Some crushing of the testicals- maybe raping his youngest son in plain view and then some traditional water boarding topped off with some electric shock for desert? Obama is not the civilized socialist that you perceive. He sold his soul when he took office- and torture is as acceptable as stealing money form the poor to bail out the rich..it is buisness as usual and America will further damage their reputation. Those rockets that went astray and killed a bunch of civilians has just added to the notion that America is dishonourable and can never be trusted- this guy that they captured will talk without brutal and dark encouragements --- where he will mislead..time to learn to make friends- Israel lacks this skill and so do we. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sharkman Posted February 17, 2010 Report Share Posted February 17, 2010 My, my, Oleg, you do have an overactive imagination. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oleg Bach Posted February 17, 2010 Report Share Posted February 17, 2010 My, my, Oleg, you do have an overactive imagination. YES It is my job to imagine and image. If you imagine enough of them eventually you will hit upon one that is real-- and that will be your job to pick up on that vision and utilize it. It is better to have in imagination than not my friend. My grip is media and those that control it-- whether it be military actions we as a nation are involved in or those that the Americans are entrenched in....I understand one thing- If you truely want victory you must maintain secrecy...and we have the biggest mouths in the world..maybe the powers that be do not want the strife end? Or in the imaginative alternative...they are just plain stupid....You do not warn or inform an enemy..You remove him swiftly...but I guess this is sport for the rich and adventurous..not my idea of a good time or good use of time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest American Woman Posted February 17, 2010 Report Share Posted February 17, 2010 Where, other than in the opening post, does it say anyone, much less "we," is using electrodes on him?We're allies and close friends with the one's wielding the electrodes. No doubt some of us are close enough to smell the burning flesh and hear the screams but not so close we have to worry about being censured for the way our pals get our information. We're probably in the next room or just outside the chamber. To repeat my question, where does it say Pakistan is using electrodes on him? By all accounts, it could be a serious blow to the insurgency.I doubt it. And your doubt is based on what, exactly? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DogOnPorch Posted February 17, 2010 Report Share Posted February 17, 2010 That's clearly not what I said now is it? Everything else is a giant American plot to the likes of you. Why not the Moon Landings and say...9-11? So...the Moon Landings...were they faked by the evil US government to dupe the masses into believing in America's greatness or not? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oleg Bach Posted February 17, 2010 Report Share Posted February 17, 2010 MEDIA....example....Hey Bin Laden- we know where you are and we are coming to get you at twelve midnight on Tuesday....so the culprit takes up his tent and leaves for a secure location on the previous monday seeing we advised him on our plans Sunday...what the hell kind of war is this...Looks more like a game to me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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