DrGreenthumb Posted December 10, 2009 Report Share Posted December 10, 2009 The defence minister should be given a choice to resign or be fired, he has disgraced Canada with his lies, and his attempt to cover up that he was breaking international law. Conservatives are tough on crime? Not when they are the ones committing it! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JaysFan Posted December 10, 2009 Report Share Posted December 10, 2009 Fire him and turn him over to face charges for the international crimes he has committed. Same applies to Harper and any other member of the Conservatives or military. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Battletoads Posted December 10, 2009 Report Share Posted December 10, 2009 Well he is a liar, so he should be turfed out just on that. This entire situation is just getting weirder and weirder. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cybercoma Posted December 10, 2009 Report Share Posted December 10, 2009 Was he lying, or was he genuinely unaware of what was going on? The problem with bureaucracy is the lack of accountability. You can't be accountable, though, for something you know nothing about. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scribblet Posted December 10, 2009 Report Share Posted December 10, 2009 Certainly we don't know that he was lying and all of this is nothing but political opportunism. I see no reason to get of him because the opposition says we should Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eyeball Posted December 10, 2009 Report Share Posted December 10, 2009 Was he lying, or was he genuinely unaware of what was going on? The problem with bureaucracy is the lack of accountability. You can't be accountable, though, for something you know nothing about. That's a lame excuse. He should also be fired for not knowing about it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
capricorn Posted December 10, 2009 Report Share Posted December 10, 2009 That's a lame excuse. He should also be fired for not knowing about it. If you were the CEO of a company or a public service manager, should you be fired or resign because you didn't know an employee was suspected of stealing? To answer the OP, nothing so far justifies Mckay's firing or resignation. In any case, McKay isn't going anywhere soon because that would be an admission of guilt. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrGreenthumb Posted December 11, 2009 Author Report Share Posted December 11, 2009 Fire him and turn him over to face charges for the international crimes he has committed. Same applies to Harper and any other member of the Conservatives or military. I don't think that we should blame the military for doing what the government told them to do. It's the cover-up, and the way Colvin was smeared and threatened by the government that really stinks the most. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shady Posted December 11, 2009 Report Share Posted December 11, 2009 He should be given the Order of Canada. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moonbox Posted December 11, 2009 Report Share Posted December 11, 2009 He should be given the Order of Canada. and be made Governor General Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cybercoma Posted December 11, 2009 Report Share Posted December 11, 2009 That's a lame excuse. He should also be fired for not knowing about it. Who's making an excuse? I was asking a question. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JaysFan Posted December 11, 2009 Report Share Posted December 11, 2009 I don't think that we should blame the military for doing what the government told them to do. It's the cover-up, and the way Colvin was smeared and threatened by the government that really stinks the most. Clearly the military is complicit in the cover-up. Either that or Hillier and Natynczyk are two of the dumbest fucks going and incredibly ignorant and incompetent.Do you really believe Natynczyk only learned about the report upon reviewing the file after appearing before the committee ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smallc Posted December 11, 2009 Report Share Posted December 11, 2009 (edited) Why should he be fired? Why would we expect the Minister of Defence to know something that the Chief of the Defence Staff didn't know? Why would we expect either of them to be aware of everything all of the time? They aren't Gods. Edited December 11, 2009 by Smallc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wyly Posted December 11, 2009 Report Share Posted December 11, 2009 Clearly the military is complicit in the cover-up. Either that or Hillier and Natynczyk are two of the dumbest fucks going and incredibly ignorant and incompetent. Do you really believe Natynczyk only learned about the report upon reviewing the file after appearing before the committee ? if the grunts on the ground knew and were concerned they would have and did pass on the info to higher ups...if Colvin knew and warned his higher ups then everybody civilian and military knew...so if the military reported it and the government chose to do nothing then the blame rests with the government...if they Ambassador knew how plausible is it he didn't inform McKay and Harper of possible implications of War Crimes???... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smallc Posted December 11, 2009 Report Share Posted December 11, 2009 But the CDS (as well as the former CDS) didn't know. Obviously your theory is wrong. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JaysFan Posted December 11, 2009 Report Share Posted December 11, 2009 But the CDS (as well as the former CDS) didn't know. Obviously your theory is wrong. So they say...Liars is the best word to describe them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bjre Posted December 11, 2009 Report Share Posted December 11, 2009 No Canadian Politician I can trust. Because all they care about is win election. They don't work for Canadians, they work for themselves. It will be a miracle if they don't tell lie. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Bandelot Posted December 11, 2009 Report Share Posted December 11, 2009 I nominate him for next years nobel peace prize. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smallc Posted December 11, 2009 Report Share Posted December 11, 2009 So they say... Liars is the best word to describe them. Yes, that's why the CDS immediately reversed his position upon learning the truth. Some of you will go to any length to attack one party or another. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JaysFan Posted December 11, 2009 Report Share Posted December 11, 2009 Yes, that's why the CDS immediately reversed his position upon learning the truth. Some of you will go to any length to attack one party or another. Which if one were to believe to be the case, makes him incredibly incompetent.Seriously, do you honestly believe he only studied the file after giving his testimony to the committee??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M.Dancer Posted December 11, 2009 Report Share Posted December 11, 2009 Which if one were to believe to be the case, makes him incredibly incompetent. Seriously, do you honestly believe he only studied the file after giving his testimony to the committee??? Do you seriously be,ieve the Chief of Defense concerns himslef with such mundane crap unless he has to? `yawn` Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smallc Posted December 11, 2009 Report Share Posted December 11, 2009 Do you seriously be,ieve the Chief of Defense concerns himslef with such mundane crap unless he has to? `yawn` Exactly. I can't believe that people are making such a big deal out of this. One guy got tortured...by someone else....probably. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
capricorn Posted December 11, 2009 Report Share Posted December 11, 2009 No Canadian Politician I can trust. Aren't you happy you can say this publicly and not get a bullet in the head? Because all they care about is win election. By this time, you should know under out system that's the reason politicians run for office. Only after they are elected can we see if they will damage or improve the country. It will be a miracle if they don't tell lie. No disagreement here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JaysFan Posted December 11, 2009 Report Share Posted December 11, 2009 Do you seriously be,ieve the Chief of Defense concerns himslef with such mundane crap unless he has to? `yawn` When he's been called to testify at a hearing then yes, he should know what it is he's talking about.Mundane crap? Should we all just *yawn* and say who gives a crap about that mundane stuff the next time a Canadian soldier gets killed? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M.Dancer Posted December 11, 2009 Report Share Posted December 11, 2009 Should we all just *yawn* and say who gives a crap about that mundane stuff the next time a Canadian soldier gets killed? Explain the connection between one talibam being roughed up and the death of a soldier? And I'm sure the death of a soldier is what keeps him away from mundane crap. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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