Alex Moore Posted December 2, 2009 Report Share Posted December 2, 2009 http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/world/iran-says-it-will-further-enrich-uranium/article1385575/ Is anyone actually surprised? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vancouver King Posted December 2, 2009 Report Share Posted December 2, 2009 http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/world/iran-says-it-will-further-enrich-uranium/article1385575/ Is anyone actually surprised? Nuke them 'til they glow. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DogOnPorch Posted December 2, 2009 Report Share Posted December 2, 2009 When standing outside the Hell's Angels clubhouse, it's a good idea not to kick over their motorbikes. Something Iran apparently needs to figure out for itself. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jerry J. Fortin Posted December 3, 2009 Report Share Posted December 3, 2009 When standing outside the Hell's Angels clubhouse, it's a good idea not to kick over their motorbikes. Something Iran apparently needs to figure out for itself. You advocate a preemptive nuclear strike? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
punked Posted December 3, 2009 Report Share Posted December 3, 2009 Another untapped market for Canada to sell their Tech too. Where is Harper on this one? He should go there today. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DogOnPorch Posted December 3, 2009 Report Share Posted December 3, 2009 You advocate a preemptive nuclear strike? I believe Vancouver King is the fellow to ask that question to. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wild Bill Posted December 3, 2009 Report Share Posted December 3, 2009 You advocate a preemptive nuclear strike? Sadly, Israel is being put in a position where she really has no other choice. If you have reason to believe that Iran intends to nuke you sooner or later, what are you supposed to do? Israel is a very small country. How could it launch a retaliatory strike after Iran hit it with a few nuke-carrying missiles? There are no submarines in the desert. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M.Dancer Posted December 3, 2009 Report Share Posted December 3, 2009 There are no submarines in the desert. But there are in the Persian Gulf.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DogOnPorch Posted December 3, 2009 Report Share Posted December 3, 2009 But there are in the Persian Gulf.. Nice ones, too. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dolphin_class_submarine Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Weber Posted December 3, 2009 Report Share Posted December 3, 2009 Gettin' to be about time to turn that place to glass..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DogOnPorch Posted December 3, 2009 Report Share Posted December 3, 2009 Gettin' to be about time to turn that place to glass..... Iran used to be one of the West's greatest allies in the area. Since 1941, in fact. Miniskirts used to be a common sight. It could be that way again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Bandelot Posted December 3, 2009 Report Share Posted December 3, 2009 (edited) Sadly, Israel is being put in a position where she really has no other choice. If you have reason to believe that Iran intends to nuke you sooner or later, what are you supposed to do? But the whole problem could have been avoided, if Iran could be convinced to have the fuel processed elsewhere, using other people's technology so they don't need to develop their own. We are not being clearly told, why Iran does not accept it. In fact we are not being told much about it at all. News of Irans rejection of the deal actually began coming out about a month ago. Edited December 3, 2009 by Sir Bandelot Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M.Dancer Posted December 3, 2009 Report Share Posted December 3, 2009 The US has 1 uranium enrichment facility. Iran wants 10 Go figure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moonbox Posted December 3, 2009 Report Share Posted December 3, 2009 We are not being clearly told, why Iran does not accept it. In fact we are not being told much about it at all. There's no mystery to this. The Arab world has been trying since the 70's to come up with the bomb. Iran appears to be close to this objective. After this is achieved nobody can/will mess with them. They know it, we know it, the USA knows it, and there's f*** all anyone is going to do about it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bush_cheney2004 Posted December 3, 2009 Report Share Posted December 3, 2009 There's no mystery to this. The Arab world has been trying since the 70's to come up with the bomb. Iran appears to be close to this objective. After this is achieved nobody can/will mess with them. They know it, we know it, the USA knows it, and there's f*** all anyone is going to do about it. Point of order please.....Iranians are not Arabs...they are Persians. Pakistan provided a "Muslim Bomb" long ago. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DogOnPorch Posted December 3, 2009 Report Share Posted December 3, 2009 Point of order please.....Iranians are not Arabs...they are Persians. Pakistan provided a "Muslim Bomb" long ago. Any thoughts on the current capabilities of Iran's submarine fleet? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vancouver King Posted December 3, 2009 Report Share Posted December 3, 2009 A preemptive non-nuclear strike serves American interests in addition to global security. In the seemingly unending, out of control debasement of it's currency, I'm betting the administration didn't fail to notice the surprising strength of the greenback as a safe harbor - witness the near panic to buy Yankee bucks a few days ago when Dubai defaulted. It's easy to imagine a scenario where nuclear facilities, and perhaps a neighborhood or two in Tehran, are destroyed to generate the appropriate crisis atmosphere. If the generals are up to it, the military campaign can be dragged on sufficiently to not only derail the gold train - wealth that should be poured into American treasury notes - but to restore international confidence in the dollar. Scramble the jets. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jerry J. Fortin Posted December 3, 2009 Report Share Posted December 3, 2009 A preemptive non-nuclear strike serves American interests in addition to global security. In the seemingly unending, out of control debasement of it's currency, I'm betting the administration didn't fail to notice the surprising strength of the greenback as a safe harbor - witness the near panic to buy Yankee bucks a few days ago when Dubai defaulted. It's easy to imagine a scenario where nuclear facilities, and perhaps a neighborhood or two in Tehran, are destroyed to generate the appropriate crisis atmosphere. If the generals are up to it, the military campaign can be dragged on sufficiently to not only derail the gold train - wealth that should be poured into American treasury notes - but to restore international confidence in the dollar. Scramble the jets. I am not sure that Dubai actually defaulted, it was a December payment that was at issue wasn't it? Perhaps more to the point I think you are mixing apples with oranges, or dollars with nukes. I am not sure that the two equate in any way shape or form, but I can see many folks may think they do. After all the American economy is rather defense based. However in this case I am not sure that the reasoning involved is financial as much as it is security. Iran has said several times that Israel should not exist, that is problematic. I will suggest that if things continue along these lines then Israel will have no choice to act in a fashion to protect themselves. It would be in the interests of America to stay as far away from this as possible, yet since they have Israels back they are glued to the issue one way or another. This smells of a trap. Messing around with oil production in Iran is a direct threat to the economic viability of China since Iran is their main importer. This is a very complicated situation in which the potential for an unfortunate incident is written in bold letters. Everybody needs to take a step back, especially Iran because they are the ones who stand to lose the most. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Bandelot Posted December 3, 2009 Report Share Posted December 3, 2009 (edited) There's no mystery to this. The Arab world has been trying since the 70's to come up with the bomb. Iran appears to be close to this objective. After this is achieved nobody can/will mess with them. They know it, we know it, the USA knows it, and there's f*** all anyone is going to do about it. Aside from this passionate display of opinion, we know that at one point Iran seemed willing to make a deal. Were they really sincere in their interest, or was that just part of some kind of game? ie. Political theatre? And if they are offered a fair deal from the west, and just walk away, why isn't the media shouting up and down about it, like they did a few months ago. I assume because something else happened in the meantime, that screwed the deal. If the deal has been rigged to be unfair, it puts Iran in an extremely difficult position. Edited December 3, 2009 by Sir Bandelot Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moonbox Posted December 3, 2009 Report Share Posted December 3, 2009 Point of order please.....Iranians are not Arabs...they are Persians. my mistake...but largely irrelevant anyways. Pakistan provided a "Muslim Bomb" long ago. As we just discussed, 'Arab' doesn't mean the whole Muslim world. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M.Dancer Posted December 3, 2009 Report Share Posted December 3, 2009 Aside from this passionate display of opinion, .... If the deal has been rigged to be unfair, it puts Iran in an extremely difficult position. Isn't this speculation and more opinion? How exactly was the deal unfair....? Were thay asked to pay more than market rates for reactor grade uuranium? Why does Iran need 10x the amount of enrichmenty facilities than the US? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DogOnPorch Posted December 3, 2009 Report Share Posted December 3, 2009 Isn't this speculation and more opinion? How exactly was the deal unfair....? Were thay asked to pay more than market rates for reactor grade uuranium? Why does Iran need 10x the amount of enrichmenty facilities than the US? Guess #1... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Bandelot Posted December 3, 2009 Report Share Posted December 3, 2009 Isn't this speculation and more opinion? How exactly was the deal unfair....? Were thay asked to pay more than market rates for reactor grade uuranium? Why does Iran need 10x the amount of enrichmenty facilities than the US? Good questions, reasonable questions to ask. Why don't we know the answer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M.Dancer Posted December 3, 2009 Report Share Posted December 3, 2009 Good questions, reasonable questions to ask. Why don't we know the answer Because iran ain't talking. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eyeball Posted December 3, 2009 Report Share Posted December 3, 2009 So Iran is building 10 times the capacity to enrich uranium or just ten places in which to enrich it? Its obvious why they'd want more than just one place with so many people talking about attacking them. Its also just as obvious why people would try to make things sound 10 or 20 or 100 times scarier than it needs to be. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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