Why is mapleafweb on an American server?

[cybercoma]

I'm just curious why this website is on an American server and not a Canadian one? There are plenty of hosting companies in Canada, is it cost, logistics, or something else? Seems odd.

[M.Dancer]

A whois shows that the server is in Lethbridge.

[lily]

Lathbridge? I assumed somewhere in Newfoundland, since the site clock is out by about a half hour.

[M.Dancer]

Lathbridge? I assumed somewhere in Newfoundland, since the site clock is out by about a half hour.

You have to correct it for daylight savings time

[lily]

It is.

DST corrects by an hour. The clock here is out ~27 minutes.

[cybercoma]

The firefox extensions shows that it is in Houston, TX:

http://geotool.flagfox.net/?ip=174.132.45....apleleafweb.com

[M.Dancer]

The firefox extensions shows that it is in Houston, TX:

http://geotool.flagfox.net/?ip=174.132.45....apleleafweb.com

You may be correct. A deeper search also brings up this.

http://www.thepolitic.com/

[cybercoma]

this appears to be the host

http://www.theplanet.com/

[Greg]

MLW is hosted on a dedicate server at ThePlanet data center in Houston Texas. Due to budget considerations, we made the decision to go with the highest quality at the lowest price, and that lead us to ThePlanet.

[bush_cheney2004]

MLW is hosted on a dedicate server at ThePlanet data center in Houston Texas. Due to budget considerations, we made the decision to go with the highest quality at the lowest price, and that lead us to ThePlanet.

Go Texans!

[August1991]

I'm just curious why this website is on an American server and not a Canadian one?

Good thread. Thanks cybercoma.

MLW is hosted on a dedicate server at ThePlanet data center in Houston Texas. Due to budget considerations, we made the decision to go with the highest quality at the lowest price, and that lead us to ThePlanet.

Texas, USA? Huh?

Greg/Charles, subject to your approval, are we free to post here? Are people with free access to the Internet able to read our posts/these threads?

IOW, what do you or your hosting server do to prevent people from posting to or reading this forum? Please explain, and be explicit.

Edited July 15, 2009 by August1991

[msj]

You mean not only is this forum hosted in the US but the great unwashed masses can read our posts from, like, their taxpayer paid University computer lab?

Quelle Horreur!

[Greg]

Greg/Charles, subject to your approval, are we free to post here? Are people with free access to the Internet able to read our posts/these threads?

There are no posting restrictions applied to any sections of these forums. The only people who are restricted from posting are those who are currently suspended or banned.

IOW, what do you or your hosting server do to prevent people from posting to or reading this forum?

Nothing, we've always encouraged participation from all walks of life and regions of the world.

[cybercoma]

I suppose if the option is paid membership, or server in the states, I'm all about having the server in the states. I just find it ironically amusing that a Canadian political website and forum are hosted in the US.

[bush_cheney2004]

.....I just find it ironically amusing that a Canadian political website and forum are hosted in the US.

Yep....pretty much sums things up.....sure tickles my funny bone.

[Greg]

I suppose if the option is paid membership, or server in the states, I'm all about having the server in the states. I just find it ironically amusing that a Canadian political website and forum are hosted in the US.

You're right, Canadian data-centers on average are a lot more expensive than US based data-centers.

It was strictly an economic decision. However, consider this - over the 10 years Maple Leaf Web has been operating, we've used dozens of different contractors from all over the world. We've contracted writers, programmers, server admins, etc, and not once did I consider their geographical location as a determining factor in whether I would hire them or not.

If I need someone to do a job, I hire the best - whether they're Canadian, American, or even Swedish (our Drupal expert lives in Sweden), it's just doesn't matter.

I'm interested in providing the best quality experience possible and I think we're doing a pretty good job.

I hope this answers everyone's questions.

[bush_cheney2004]

...If I need someone to do a job, I hire the best - whether they're Canadian, American, or even Swedish (our Drupal expert lives in Sweden), it's just doesn't matter.

Clearly an unassailable position.....merit is blind to nationalism. Salute!

[Guest American Woman]

Clearly an unassailable position.....merit is blind to nationalism. Salute!

So you don't believe in "buy American?"

[Charles Anthony]

... are we free to post here? Are people with free access to ...

Nothing is free. (Heck, does "free" have any meaning anymore??)

Please be more explicit in your query.

[Radsickle]

If we were discussing national secrets, I'd be uncomfortable. But it is quite common for Canadian groups to find hosting services in the States; it's usually cheaper. Actually, it's quite Canadian to only care about who offers the best price.

Thanks for the heads up though, CyberComa. New info for me. I'll edit the anti-CIA messages from now on.

Edited July 17, 2009 by Radsickle

[bush_cheney2004]

So you don't believe in "buy American?"

Methinks that even if MLW was hosted in Canada, it would still be plenty American because of the server, operating system, and database.

If American kit is good enough for the Gun Registry.......

[Michael Hardner]

There is also the 'free speech' factor. I'm supposing that the American base means that we're not in Canadian legal jurisdiction.

[Guest American Woman]

There is also the 'free speech' factor. I'm supposing that the American base means that we're not in Canadian legal jurisdiction.

This is what I was questioning. For example, how can Canada's hate laws be enforced on an American server?

[Guest American Woman]

QUOTE=American Woman @ Jul 16 2009, 07:36 PM)

So you don't believe in "buy American?"

Methinks that even if MLW was hosted in Canada, it would still be plenty American because of the server, operating system, and database.

That doesn't answer my question, but maybe it wasn't clear. You were more or less giving a 'high five' to Greg's choosing an American server because it's cheaper. At least that was my interpretation of your comment. Our country makes a big deal about "buying American," so if the reverse were true, if an American university were hosting an American political forum off of a Canadian server, would you support that -- or would you believe in "buy American?"

I'm truly interested in how people feel about this. It's sort of like whether or not to support Wal-mart because it's cheaper but it's products are not American labor. Even American flags are made in China. How do you feel about that?

I'm of mixed emotion here. I think one should "buy American" (fill in your country). However, I've made exceptions too. I finally bought a Toyota (Camry) after having American cars my whole life, but not because it's cheaper, but because it's a better product. So I make exceptions, too.

But again. I'm truly wondering if people care one way or the other.

[bush_cheney2004]

That doesn't answer my question, but maybe it wasn't clear. You were more or less giving a 'high five' to Greg's choosing an American server because it's cheaper. At least that was my interpretation of your comment...

No, I was "high fiving" Greg for making the decision solely on merit(s). As a consumer, I am not a "buy American only" type at all, but many of my consumer goods are/were Made In USA.

Edited July 17, 2009 by bush_cheney2004