Bush's Bible Prophecy:God Wants to "Erase" Mid-East foes

[Moonlight Graham]

Interesting revelations:

In 2003 while lobbying leaders to put together the Coalition of the Willing, President Bush spoke to France's President Jacques Chirac. Bush wove a story about how the Biblical creatures Gog and Magog were at work in the Middle East and how they must be defeated.

[...]

The story of the conversation emerged only because the Elyse Palace, baffled by Bush's words, sought advice from Thomas Romer, a professor of theology at the University of Lausanne. Four years later, Romer gave an account in the September 2007 issue of the university's review, Allez savoir. The article apparently went unnoticed, although it was referred to in a French newspaper.

The story has now been confirmed by Chirac himself in a new book, published in France in March, by journalist Jean Claude Maurice. Chirac is said to have been stupefied and disturbed by Bush's invocation of Biblical prophesy to justify the war in Iraq and "wondered how someone could be so superficial and fanatical in their beliefs".

In the same year he spoke to Chirac, Bush had reportedly said to the Palestinian foreign minister that he was on "a mission from God" in launching the invasions of Iraq and Afghanistan and was receiving commands from the Lord.

Absolutely frightening.

Edited May 28, 2009 by Moonlight Graham

[bush_cheney2004]

Absolutely frightening.

Why? Just took out a U.S. dollar bill...on the back is clearly printed "IN GOD WE TRUST".

[BubberMiley]

Why? Just took out a U.S. dollar bill...on the back is clearly printed "IN GOD WE TRUST".

Bush isn't the only crazy person in the U.S. But Bush and his ilk are gone now. They were insane, but they are no longer relevant.

Soon we will find them spending all of their time on Internet political forums. I think Cheney's already there.

[Shady]

Your topic thread is a lie. It was either a mistake, or a purposely crafted distortion.

Bush's Biblical Prophecy: God Wants to "Erase" Mid-East

The correct quote is God wants to erase mid-east enemies. Not that God wants to erase the mid-east. Correct your "mistake" please.

[bush_cheney2004]

Your topic thread is a lie. It was either a mistake, or a purposely crafted distortion.

The correct quote is God wants to erase mid-east enemies. Not that God wants to erase the mid-east. Correct your "mistake" please.

LOL! I think Israel and Saudi Arabia might object to Bush erasing the Mid-East, eh?

[bush_cheney2004]

Bush isn't the only crazy person in the U.S. But Bush and his ilk are gone now. They were insane, but they are no longer relevant.

Plenty more where they came from....

Psalm 23:4 (George Bush Version)

Yea, though I walk through the valley of the shadow of death, I will fear no evil: for I am the strongest son-of-a-bitch in the valley.

[bush_cheney2004]

Excerpt from President Woodrow Wilson's 1917 war message:

...But the right is more precious than peace, and we shall fight for the things which we have always carried nearest our hearts -- for democracy, for the right of those who submit to authority to have a voice in their own governments, for the rights and liberties of small nations, for a universal dominion of right by such a concert of free peoples as shall bring peace and safety to all nations and make the world itself at last free. To such a task we can dedicate our lives and our fortunes, everything that we are and everything that we have, with the pride of those who know that the day has come when America is privileged to spend her blood and her might for the principles that gave her birth and happiness and the peace which she has treasured.

God helping her, she can do no other.

Sure smells like God!

[August1991]

In case anyone is curious, here is the original article in Allez Savoir of University of Lausanne published in September 2007.

Apparently, Bush made a reference to the Bible during a conversation with Chirac who was confused and turned to his advisors who in turn went to a protestant professor in Switzerland. (Figures.)

The professor wrote a one sheet answer. Frankly, until I see Chirac's reference and context, I don't see much in this other than that Bush Jnr. reads the Bible and Chirac apparently doesn't.

The article finishes with this curious fluorish about the difference between Germans, French and Americans and their support of Israel:

Voilà qui surprendra plus d’un Européen, habitué à des analyses davantage fondées sur la géopolitique, les rapports de force, la carte des pipelines transportant du pétrole que par le religieux, quand il est question de la politique étrangère des Etats-Unis. «Cette lecture américaine échappe effectivement aux Européens, qui ont perdu ce rapport aux textes bibliques, poursuit le théologien de l’UNIL. Les Allemands comprennent plus facilement George W. Bush que les Français ou les Suisses. Pour un Américain, ces questions sont centrales. Si on oublie le religieux

dans l’analyse du soutien des Etats-Unis à Israël, on se trompe.»

Ces réflexions politiciennes figuraient-elles sur la page A4 que Thomas Römer a transmise à l’Elysée, au début 2003? «Non. J’ai envoyé une note biblique. Sur une page, j’ai situé ce texte, j’ai précisé qu’il s’agissait d’une prophétie de type apocalyptique, avec une bataille cosmique qui met en scène des peuples. J’ai parlé de Gygos et j’ai donné l’époque de sa rédaction. Et je n’ai plus eu de nouvelles, ni de Jacques Chirac, ni de ses conseillers.»

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And I thought the Left was convinced teh Iraq War was about crude oil.

Edited May 27, 2009 by August1991

[Oleg Bach]

Interesting revelations:

Absolutely frightening.

What's more disturbing is his interpretation of Revelations - a book written in code that is designed to be a warning NOT a prophecy...those that look at it as something to be seriously heeded are - how shall I say?

NUTS!

To imagine that our current state of affairs in the middle east was brought about by a few lunitics dabbling in what is no less than the occult - Hitler did that and look where it got him and us - and the lives it cost.

[bush_cheney2004]

....To imagine that our current state of affairs in the middle east was brought about by a few lunitics dabbling in what is no less than the occult - Hitler did that and look where it got him and us - and the lives it cost.

Yea...but Hitler lost!

[Oleg Bach]

Yea...but Hitler lost!

Hitler got his E U - and the fulfilment of his belated dream was not quite what he expected - gay politicals and all sorts of what he considered inferour races living under the shadow of the Eagle Nest - he lost - and BC - so did Bush - the economic collapse and total loss of American crediblity - is not a victory my dear hopeful friend...Hitler lost and Cheney failed - now he is crying like an aging baby with a bad case of constipation..while Obama the dark one that he dispises dances like a new version of a black Al Capone our of Chicago...you sure are hopeful......to be bleeding to death as a former great nation must feel like hell ---- here - I will send you a band aid - just one - use it well....

[Oleg Bach]

Interesting revelations:

Absolutely frightening.

Another thing! What the hell does any human creature know about what the will of God is? Bizzare-to understand we have leaders who see things and hear voices - how many more like this guy are prancing around bringing the world to the brink of disaster - what does the head of North Korea - or Israel for that matter think or believe - When is mankind going to understand that we are on our own and God does not have an inclination or even an interest in this little speck in the universe - the concept of God granted free will - is the ulitmate love that states - you are free - do what you must to survive - appealing to scripture to fortell the future...is sheer crazyness - there is no future..it does not exist - and any body that believes that they have a window to the non-existant is crazy and dangerous - as we see what has happened in the last years of the Bush tenure....What's next - Obama getting drunk and proclaiming he is Mohamid?

[bush_cheney2004]

Hitler got his E U - and the fulfilment of his belated dream was not quite what he expected - gay politicals and all sorts of what he considered inferour races living under the shadow of the Eagle Nest - he lost - and BC - so did Bush - the economic collapse and total loss of American crediblity - is not a victory my dear hopeful friend

Hogwash....you guys were bitching about the USA long before Bush came along. "American credibility" wasn't so great for Osama Bin Hidin' either!

...Hitler lost and Cheney failed - now he is crying like an aging baby with a bad case of constipation..while Obama the dark one that he dispises dances like a new version of a black Al Capone our of Chicago...you sure are hopeful......to be bleeding to death as a former great nation must feel like hell ---- here - I will send you a band aid - just one - use it well....

'Tis better to have been...than never at all.

[Oleg Bach]

Hogwash....you guys were bitching about the USA long before Bush came along. "American credibility" wasn't so great for Osama Bin Hidin' either!

'Tis better to have been...than never at all.

BC I could just smack you! If you weren't so endearing and entertaining. And don't call me 'you guys' - send a few hundred grand and I will be with you guys - and I will denounce the Canadain cowards for their envy of American projective power (you taught me that one) - yah - I just noticed that "Osama Bin Hindin" - whatchya trying to say there my little Polish American dwarf sausage man ----did you gain weight BC? Or is that a pack of cheap hot dogs taped to the back of your neck?

[JerrySeinfeld]

Interesting revelations:

Absolutely frightening.

Yes - being on a "mission from god" is absolutely frightening. Except of course if you're Islamic. Then you're just "misunderstood" and "more moderate than most people realize"

You know what's truly "absolutely frightening"? A double standard aimed directly at villifying a comparatively sane western world when stacked up against the goons in the middle east, then using reverse racism to elevate thugs to "equals" and relegate bold and courages US Presidents to "thugs" all in the name of leftist progressivist societal self-hatred mostly espoused by the losers in the western world who could never make it for themselves so they channel their passive aggresive bullshit into a political cause which allows you to be "better" than everyone else without ever having to achieve anything.

F*cking disgusting.

Edited May 27, 2009 by JerrySeinfeld

[Oleg Bach]

You mean that Bush wanting to be religious and righteous but not having the intellectual capacity to understand what scripture is and what it is not - makes him a victim? The cold truth is that the west - and the east when attempting to do the work of the Almighty - are infidels - All mighty means he really does not need human help - to attempt to assist God is like saying he is weak and is not the all mighty - which means you are a fraud and have no understanding of what God is - the west is stupid as is Islam - and the rest of the fanatics...

[BubberMiley]

And I thought the Left was convinced teh Iraq War was about crude oil.

You think the Left is one person? There's your problem right there.

[BubberMiley]

Yea, though I walk through the valley of the shadow of death, I will fear no evil: for I am the strongest son-of-a-bitch in the valley.

Fortunately as strong as he may be, he now only has the authority to clear brush in Crawford.

[bush_cheney2004]

Fortunately as strong as he may be, he now only has the authority to clear brush in Crawford.

But you are still afraid.....be very afraid.

[DogOnPorch]

Yes - being on a "mission from god" is absolutely frightening. Except of course if you're Islamic. Then you're just "misunderstood" and "more moderate than most people realize"

You know what's truly "absolutely frightening"? A double standard aimed directly at villifying a comparatively sane western world when stacked up against the goons in the middle east, then using reverse racism to elevate thugs to "equals" and relegate bold and courages US Presidents to "thugs" all in the name of leftist progressivist societal self-hatred mostly espoused by the losers in the western world who could never make it for themselves so they channel their passive aggresive bullshit into a political cause which allows you to be "better" than everyone else without ever having to achieve anything.

F*cking disgusting.

Well said. Virtual beer on me.

[bush_cheney2004]

.....All mighty means he really does not need human help - to attempt to assist God is like saying he is weak and is not the all mighty - which means you are a fraud and have no understanding of what God is - the west is stupid as is Islam - and the rest of the fanatics...

OK....but we have better television and 31 flavors of ice cream.

[KrustyKidd]

Bush united the world in an active campaign against terrorism, freed fifty million people, dealt a crippling blow against Qutbism, forced Saudi Arabia to confront their Qutbists, got Iraq to comply with ceasefire terms after twelve years of being in violation, ended Iraq’s WMD capability and aspirations, proved that America has the will to help allies and destroy foes, pressured other regimes in the area not to provide passive or active support to Jihadists, positioned US troops in the region in force to enable that pressure and finally, enabled the creation of two Arab democracies as an example to others.

Fifty million people free today who were in giant gulags prior to his actions. And now, rather than face this humanitarian miracle in celebration, many just try to obscure the achievements by sullying the reasons. I couldn't carre less if it was a bowliing bet he host or, if it had the sound political and strategic motivation that so far as I see, it had. In any case, two countries, fifty million people freed is akin to a miracle.

Hail Saint Bush!!!

[kuzadd]

Yes - being on a "mission from god" is absolutely frightening. Except of course if you're Islamic. Then you're just "misunderstood" and "more moderate than most people realize"

You know what's truly "absolutely frightening"? A double standard aimed directly at villifying a comparatively sane western world when stacked up against the goons in the middle east, then using reverse racism to elevate thugs to "equals" and relegate bold and courages US Presidents to "thugs" all in the name of leftist progressivist societal self-hatred mostly espoused by the losers in the western world who could never make it for themselves so they channel their passive aggresive bullshit into a political cause which allows you to be "better" than everyone else without ever having to achieve anything.

F*cking disgusting.

what goons are you talking about in the ME?

Isn't Israel on a mission from God?

God gave them the land, right Jerry?

God wants them to have the land?

God said the land is theirs.

"There is no legal claim for the land unless you read the Bible," she says. "God gave this land to the Jewish people. We are special." There is no aggression as she speaks. She has the self-righteous calm of someone convinced she is right."

fanatic!

more fanatics!

“We are not worried about American pressure,” said Aryeh Davis, a 26-year-old from the settlement of Kiryat Arba in Hebron. “It says in the Bible that this land is ours; it will stay ours and we will keep building more and more.

"All the land of Israel belongs to us. That's what God gave all of us, all of the land of Israel to us.

Biblical certainty of the Israeli settlers

Oslo’s death throes may be recognised in the United States, but Washington seems to have drawn only one conclusion: allow more time. But each day the tension rises in the still occupied territories. And each day sees more settlers move in, convinced that this is their own God-given land.

lots of fanatics!!!!

right Jerry?

So Israel is on a mission from God, to get land, that allegedly God says in a story book is theirs?

That sure sounds fanatical to me and clearly their is more then one fanatical group in the ME.

As for western wackos believing this nonsense, it goes to show quite clearly fanaticism is alive and well in more western nations then just Israel.

Why is it that the mentally ill share the same beliefs as these people?

Answer; there is something wrong with the whole lot of them

[Oleg Bach]

If God gave a home to the Jewish people - perhaps they should not have wandered away for 4000 years and returned as a genetic mix of every race and religion on earth...I would love to genetically test these returnees and find out who is fully Jewish and who is not - I suspect that there are not the same in pure form - that God granted the land too.. maybe in comparrison to the ancient Judeans and Israelites - the average Jew is about 1 20th Jew or Israelite - God gave me the planet a million years ago - and I have been on Mars fooling with the local woman - and now I am home - get out - and I have a nuke.... What a joke - when are these people going to become part of the human race instead of being exclutionary jerks - I love the holy land and would love to spend some time there - but NOOOOO......I'm just not Jewish enough...Judean blood exists in almost every human being on the planet - Israel is the homeland of all mankind - including us Goyem...oooops - that was not regliously, racially or politically correct - forgive me for I have sinned - wait - that's a Cathoic thing.....in the case of Israel - it belongs to those that were inhabitants the longest - maybe we can have a reservation called Israel and send their kids to residential schools and get the Jew out and the secularist in....but - they have already secularized the place - but just looooove - that protective blanket of Jewishness...no offence - but you are not special.

[bush_cheney2004]

....Why is it that the mentally ill share the same beliefs as these people?

Answer; there is something wrong with the whole lot of them

Gee...I don't know...maybe the Godsmack story is just as good as The Crown's when it comes to taking land in the MidEast or Norte America.