The President Who Hates His Country

[jbg]

Strange but apparently true. A President that hates his own country (link).

If Obama is going to succeed as President he must speak to the everyday American. The American who puts his hands on his heart at ball games when the Star Spangled Banner is played. The American who puts the flag on public bridges and lovingly attends the flag.

America is a vast, beautiful and diverse country. It has shown the world what a free people can do. It is a wonderful place, but as a location and as an example. Obama should be proud, not apologetic.

If he wants to follow in the path of Jimmy Carter, let him keep mouthing apologies for our greatness.

Excerpts below. Read on empty stomach.

The President Who Hates His Country

In the last century, the impassioned words and actions of patriots like Winston Churchill – along with America’s heroic help and sacrifice – saved Europe. The eloquence and actions of "I’ve been to the mountaintop" Martin Luther King Jr. brought America to an unprecedented level of social justice.

Bizarre and, yes, repugnant as it is to our essentially centrist country, America now has a president who has broken that time-honored tradition. Barack Obama, on the campaign trail and as the leader of the free world is the first U.S. president to proclaim to anyone within earshot that he, like his wife, is not proud of his country, and is all-too-willing to offer serial apologies – for America! – to Americans and foreigners alike.

As Ed Lasky writes: “We know that during the campaign [Obama] warned that criticism of his wife was `off-limits’. But criticism of America – well, that is fine.”

We also know that during his run for the presidency, Obama expressed sneering condescension towards all those bible-clasping, gun-owning yahoos who “cling” to those silly things, and that in Europe he consistently gave voice to America’s supposed “sins.” But all that pales in comparison to the clear contempt – looks more like hatred to me – that Obama feels for the United States of America and for its most revered founding document, the U.S. Constitution.

In just the first 100-days of his tenure, Obama’s words and actions have demonstrated that he is no friend of the country he leads. This is only a smattering of what happened on his recent three-continent trip abroad and to Mexico:

• In France, Obama told his audience that America “has shown arrogance and been dismissive, even derisive” toward Europe.
  
  
• In Prague, Obama – in true utopian-kindergarten fashion – pledged “with conviction” that America will “seek the peace and security of a world without nuclear weapons.” In other words, destroy big bad America’s ability to defend itself!
  
  
• In London, Obama made clear that the world’s financial wealth was no longer made by those inferior leaders Roosevelt and Churchill, effectively ceding America’s leading role in creating and sharing wealth to nations that have never measured up to our country’s bountiful generosity or spirit of free-market entrepreneurship.
  
  
• In Port of Spain, Trinidad and Tobago, Obama sat passively while the Marxist Chavez handed him an American-bashing book and delivered another revile-America speech, while never once rising to defend our country.
  
  
• In Port of Spain, Trinidad and Tobago, Obama again sat passively while the Marxist Ortega blamed the United States for a century of what he called terroristic U.S. aggression in Central America, again emitting not a whisper of defense on our country’s behalf.
  
  
• In Turkey, Obama said – incredibly and inaccurately – that America was not a Christian nation.
  
  
  And in his recent trip to Mexico, Obama said that the escalating border violence was essentially America’s fault.
  
  

Scan you memory. Can you think of any other leader in world history who so consistently badmouths his own country, or fails to defend it? I can’t.

Wall St. Journal writer Dorothy Rabinowitz notes that Obama “had gone to Europe not as the voice of his nation, but as a missionary with a message of atonement for its errors. No sitting American president had ever delivered indictments of this kind while abroad, or for that matter at home. When [our allies] see Obama’s moral equivalence, they realize they are on their own and must cut their own deals to survive – understanding that multicultural trendiness is now a cynical cover for moral laxity and ‘can’t we all get along?’

[CANADIEN]

Strange but apparently true. A President that hates his own country (link).

If Obama is going to succeed as President he must speak to the everyday American. The American who puts his hands on his heart at ball games when the Star Spangled Banner is played. The American who puts the flag on public bridges and lovingly attends the flag.

America is a vast, beautiful and diverse country. It has shown the world what a free people can do. It is a wonderful place, but as a location and as an example. Obama should be proud, not apologetic.

If he wants to follow in the path of Jimmy Carter, let him keep mouthing apologies for our greatness.

Excerpts below. Read on empty stomach.

The President Who Hates His Country

In the last century, the impassioned words and actions of patriots like Winston Churchill – along with America’s heroic help and sacrifice – saved Europe. The eloquence and actions of "I’ve been to the mountaintop" Martin Luther King Jr. brought America to an unprecedented level of social justice.

Bizarre and, yes, repugnant as it is to our essentially centrist country, America now has a president who has broken that time-honored tradition. Barack Obama, on the campaign trail and as the leader of the free world is the first U.S. president to proclaim to anyone within earshot that he, like his wife, is not proud of his country, and is all-too-willing to offer serial apologies – for America! – to Americans and foreigners alike.

As Ed Lasky writes: “We know that during the campaign [Obama] warned that criticism of his wife was `off-limits’. But criticism of America – well, that is fine.”

We also know that during his run for the presidency, Obama expressed sneering condescension towards all those bible-clasping, gun-owning yahoos who “cling” to those silly things, and that in Europe he consistently gave voice to America’s supposed “sins.” But all that pales in comparison to the clear contempt – looks more like hatred to me – that Obama feels for the United States of America and for its most revered founding document, the U.S. Constitution.

In just the first 100-days of his tenure, Obama’s words and actions have demonstrated that he is no friend of the country he leads. This is only a smattering of what happened on his recent three-continent trip abroad and to Mexico:

• In France, Obama told his audience that America “has shown arrogance and been dismissive, even derisive” toward Europe.
  
  
• In Prague, Obama – in true utopian-kindergarten fashion – pledged “with conviction” that America will “seek the peace and security of a world without nuclear weapons.” In other words, destroy big bad America’s ability to defend itself!
  
  
• In London, Obama made clear that the world’s financial wealth was no longer made by those inferior leaders Roosevelt and Churchill, effectively ceding America’s leading role in creating and sharing wealth to nations that have never measured up to our country’s bountiful generosity or spirit of free-market entrepreneurship.
  
  
• In Port of Spain, Trinidad and Tobago, Obama sat passively while the Marxist Chavez handed him an American-bashing book and delivered another revile-America speech, while never once rising to defend our country.
  
  
• In Port of Spain, Trinidad and Tobago, Obama again sat passively while the Marxist Ortega blamed the United States for a century of what he called terroristic U.S. aggression in Central America, again emitting not a whisper of defense on our country’s behalf.
  
  
• In Turkey, Obama said – incredibly and inaccurately – that America was not a Christian nation.
  
  
  And in his recent trip to Mexico, Obama said that the escalating border violence was essentially America’s fault.
  
  

Scan you memory. Can you think of any other leader in world history who so consistently badmouths his own country, or fails to defend it? I can’t.

Wall St. Journal writer Dorothy Rabinowitz notes that Obama “had gone to Europe not as the voice of his nation, but as a missionary with a message of atonement for its errors. No sitting American president had ever delivered indictments of this kind while abroad, or for that matter at home. When [our allies] see Obama’s moral equivalence, they realize they are on their own and must cut their own deals to survive – understanding that multicultural trendiness is now a cynical cover for moral laxity and ‘can’t we all get along?’

Love of one's country, and pride in it, sometimes includes saying "we were wrong" and "we will do better". It sometime includes being frank about how being viewed as a second class citizen has affected that pride. Wishing for a world without nuke may be naive, but it is not hatred for one's country.

[jbg]

Love of one's country, and pride in it, sometimes includes saying "we were wrong" and "we will do better". It sometime includes being frank about how being viewed as a second class citizen has affected that pride. Wishing for a world without nuke may be naive, but it is not hatred for one's country.

Unless he's prepared to "go first" in giving up self-defense rights and embolden haters of America, as Jimmy Carter did. Resulting in the 1979 Iranian Hostage crisis and Afghanistan; and ultimately his defeat at the polls.

[CANADIEN]

Unless he's prepared to "go first" in giving up self-defense rights and embolden haters of America, as Jimmy Carter did. Resulting in the 1979 Iranian Hostage crisis and Afghanistan; and ultimately his defeat at the polls.

Apart from his naive musings about nuclear disarment, not much sign of that so far.

[DogOnPorch]

A grassy knoll awaits the President who ever goes too far, I imagine.

[Leafless]

Obama is sounding more and more like a typical 'citizen of the world' rather than the president of the U.S.

In a similar way Canada currently is in a worse positon than the U.S. and is still suffering major ill effects from having a minority in power.

[lictor616]

Strange but apparently true. A President that hates his own country (link).

If Obama is going to succeed as President he must speak to the everyday American. The American who puts his hands on his heart at ball games when the Star Spangled Banner is played. The American who puts the flag on public bridges and lovingly attends the flag.

America is a vast, beautiful and diverse country. It has shown the world what a free people can do. It is a wonderful place, but as a location and as an example. Obama should be proud, not apologetic.

If he wants to follow in the path of Jimmy Carter, let him keep mouthing apologies for our greatness.

Excerpts below. Read on empty stomach.

The President Who Hates His Country

In the last century, the impassioned words and actions of patriots like Winston Churchill – along with America’s heroic help and sacrifice – saved Europe. The eloquence and actions of "I’ve been to the mountaintop" Martin Luther King Jr. brought America to an unprecedented level of social justice.

Bizarre and, yes, repugnant as it is to our essentially centrist country, America now has a president who has broken that time-honored tradition. Barack Obama, on the campaign trail and as the leader of the free world is the first U.S. president to proclaim to anyone within earshot that he, like his wife, is not proud of his country, and is all-too-willing to offer serial apologies – for America! – to Americans and foreigners alike.

As Ed Lasky writes: “We know that during the campaign [Obama] warned that criticism of his wife was `off-limits’. But criticism of America – well, that is fine.”

We also know that during his run for the presidency, Obama expressed sneering condescension towards all those bible-clasping, gun-owning yahoos who “cling” to those silly things, and that in Europe he consistently gave voice to America’s supposed “sins.” But all that pales in comparison to the clear contempt – looks more like hatred to me – that Obama feels for the United States of America and for its most revered founding document, the U.S. Constitution.

In just the first 100-days of his tenure, Obama’s words and actions have demonstrated that he is no friend of the country he leads. This is only a smattering of what happened on his recent three-continent trip abroad and to Mexico:

• In France, Obama told his audience that America “has shown arrogance and been dismissive, even derisive” toward Europe.
  
  
• In Prague, Obama – in true utopian-kindergarten fashion – pledged “with conviction” that America will “seek the peace and security of a world without nuclear weapons.” In other words, destroy big bad America’s ability to defend itself!
  
  
• In London, Obama made clear that the world’s financial wealth was no longer made by those inferior leaders Roosevelt and Churchill, effectively ceding America’s leading role in creating and sharing wealth to nations that have never measured up to our country’s bountiful generosity or spirit of free-market entrepreneurship.
  
  
• In Port of Spain, Trinidad and Tobago, Obama sat passively while the Marxist Chavez handed him an American-bashing book and delivered another revile-America speech, while never once rising to defend our country.
  
  
• In Port of Spain, Trinidad and Tobago, Obama again sat passively while the Marxist Ortega blamed the United States for a century of what he called terroristic U.S. aggression in Central America, again emitting not a whisper of defense on our country’s behalf.
  
  
• In Turkey, Obama said – incredibly and inaccurately – that America was not a Christian nation.
  
  
  And in his recent trip to Mexico, Obama said that the escalating border violence was essentially America’s fault.
  
  

Scan you memory. Can you think of any other leader in world history who so consistently badmouths his own country, or fails to defend it? I can’t.

Wall St. Journal writer Dorothy Rabinowitz notes that Obama “had gone to Europe not as the voice of his nation, but as a missionary with a message of atonement for its errors. No sitting American president had ever delivered indictments of this kind while abroad, or for that matter at home. When [our allies] see Obama’s moral equivalence, they realize they are on their own and must cut their own deals to survive – understanding that multicultural trendiness is now a cynical cover for moral laxity and ‘can’t we all get along?’

yes indeed, read this and shudder.

what a diseased creature. How could such a brazenly Marxist degenerate be permitted to hold any public office? much less as president squatting in the white house...

For those capable of resisting nausea, you should also read on his favorite ideologue, James Cone (a pint sized creature who resembles an enraged chimpanzee) who wrote a bundle of drivel called "Black liberation theology"... who teaches that (of course)"white devils" were created by a "Black scientist" named Yakub (9000 years ago near the earth's core) and that he "was determined to create, artificially, a race of debased and inferior creatures"... but "something went wrong" with the experiment...

From there, Cone attests that the ancient Israelites were sub-Saharan "negroes" and that Jesus was a black man with dark black skin and dreads, and even that China used to be a black civilization 2000 years ago...

He also predicts that whites will have to commit suicide or self exterminate in order to submit to the will of "Yakub"

If a white candidate for the presidency had as his favorite ideologue: a white racist man who wrote about how White men invented blacks near the earth,s core and called for the extermination of blacks... ask yourselves, would he have a chance at the presidency? What would the media do to him?

What more proof does one need to understand that America has passed the point of no return and is occupied by its implacable enemies?

[BubberMiley]

I can see what you meant by "read on an empty stomach."

Sore losers can look pretty desperate and unattractive.

[Oleg Bach]

So you have finally discovered that the Obama Messiah comes to destroy and not to build? Congrats...finally someone gets it - much like discovering that the Unitied Nations is in the buisness of destroying nations?

[CANADIEN]

yes indeed, read this and shudder.

what a diseased creature. How could such a brazenly Marxist degenerate be permitted to hold any public office? much less as president squatting in the white house...

For those capable of resisting nausea, you should also read on his favorite ideologue, James Cone (a pint sized creature who resembles an enraged chimpanzee) who wrote a bundle of drivel called "Black liberation theology"... who teaches that (of course)"white devils" were created by a "Black scientist" named Yakub (9000 years ago near the earth's core) and that he "was determined to create, artificially, a race of debased and inferior creatures"... but "something went wrong" with the experiment...

From there, Cone attests that the ancient Israelites were sub-Saharan "negroes" and that Jesus was a black man with dark black skin and dreads, and even that China used to be a black civilization 2000 years ago...

He also predicts that whites will have to commit suicide or self exterminate in order to submit to the will of "Yakub"

If a white candidate for the presidency had as his favorite ideologue: a white racist man who wrote about how White men invented blacks near the earth,s core and called for the extermination of blacks... ask yourselves, would he have a chance at the presidency? What would the media do to him?

What more proof does one need to understand that America has passed the point of no return and is occupied by its implacable enemies?

I'll pass on the fact that Cone is a racist. And on the fact that there is no evidence he belieces in whites being inferiors who should be exterminated, or that his past writings about Jesus bbeing Black are to be taken in any meaning that he was physiologically Black.

What I won't pass on is the fact that the entire tone of your postings remove any doubt that you are anything but a low-life despicable racist.

[ironstone]

I'll pass on the fact that Cone is a racist. And on the fact that there is no evidence he belieces in whites being inferiors who should be exterminated, or that his past writings about Jesus bbeing Black are to be taken in any meaning that he was physiologically Black.

What I won't pass on is the fact that the entire tone of your postings remove any doubt that you are anything but a low-life despicable racist.

I don't see this as a black or white issue at all.This has everything to do with a President that is perhaps the most left leaning in history.The United States has always been a beacon for the rest of the world,for those seeking a better life in the land of opportunity.Like everyone else in these forums,I'm just kind of an armchair politician/general stating an opinion that counts for little.I don't think that Obama's first 100 days have been good for the country since he is taking Americans sharply to the left.He shouldn't be badmouthing his own country in the first place.Who knows how things will be in the States at the end of his first term?I can't dismiss the fact that he is a product of the Illinois political arena,apparently one of the most politically corrupt states in the country or his association with unrepentant terrorist William Ayers.

[CANADIEN]

I don't see this as a black or white issue at all.This has everything to do with a President that is perhaps the most left leaning in history.The United States has always been a beacon for the rest of the world,for those seeking a better life in the land of opportunity.Like everyone else in these forums,I'm just kind of an armchair politician/general stating an opinion that counts for little.I don't think that Obama's first 100 days have been good for the country since he is taking Americans sharply to the left.He shouldn't be badmouthing his own country in the first place.Who knows how things will be in the States at the end of his first term?I can't dismiss the fact that he is a product of the Illinois political arena,apparently one of the most politically corrupt states in the country or his association with unrepentant terrorist William Ayers.

Admitting that one's country has been wrong is not badmouthing it.

As for this not being a black vs white thing, say that to the lowlife (pointing to lictor)

[lictor616]

I'll pass on the fact that Cone is a racist. And on the fact that there is no evidence he belieces in whites being inferiors who should be exterminated, or that his past writings about Jesus bbeing Black are to be taken in any meaning that he was physiologically Black.

What I won't pass on is the fact that the entire tone of your postings remove any doubt that you are anything but a low-life despicable racist.

Its funny how you don't see the sickening double standards in your method of judging racists... Earlier you called me a "despicable violent racist anti semite hate filled bigot" for correctly saying that Males of the royal family are circumcised by the Mohel of London.... (which again is an indisputable fact)

Yet when a black "theologian" like Cone CALLS OUT FOR THE DISAPPEARANCE OF WHITE PEOPLE, or ignominious subjugation of whites (if they do not commit suicide) your reaction is all ho-hum... and that "there is no evidence he belieces in whites being inferiors"

what a despicable and inglorious forfeit on your part...

James Cone invariably calls white people "the Enemy" ... I mean for god's sake CANADIEN tell me your not this insanely blind and devoid of logic...

If Bush had as his favorite ideologue a guy taht refered to blacks as "the enemy" what would be your reaction... like the grotesque hypocrite you are: you'd doubtless be foaming at the mouth with all the usual liberal epiteths and squeaks and squawks "racist" "fascist" "white supremacist" "bigot" etc ad infinitam nauseam...

James Cone, quoted in William R Jones, “Divine Racism: The Unacknowledged Threshold Issue for Black Theology”, in African-American Religious Thought: An Anthology, ed Cornel West and Eddie Glaube, Westminster John Knox Press, 2003, pp. 850, 856.

"Black theology refuses to accept a God who is not identified totally with the goals of the black community. If God is not for us and against white people, then he is a murderer, and we had better kill him. The task of black theology is to kill Gods who do not belong to the black community … Black theology will accept only the love of God which participates in the destruction of the white enemy. What we need is the divine love as expressed in Black Power, which is the power of black people to destroy their oppressors here and now by any means at their disposal. Unless God is participating in this holy activity, we must reject his love."

From James Cone’s own, Black Theology and Black Power, 1997, Orbis, p.150:

For white people, God’s reconciliation in Jesus Christ means that God has made black people a beautiful people; and if they are going to be in relationship with God, they must enter by means of their black brothers, who are a manifestation of God’s presence on earth. The assumption that one can know God without knowing blackness is the basic heresy of the white churches. They want God without blackness, Christ without obedience, love without death. What they fail to realize is that in America, God’s revelation on earth has always been black, red, or some other shocking shade, but never white. Whiteness, as revealed in the history of America, is the expression of what is wrong with man. It is a symbol of man’s depravity. God cannot be white even though white churches have portrayed him as white. When we look at what whiteness has done to the minds of men in this country, we can see clearly what the New Testament meant when it spoke of the principalities and powers. To speak of Satan and his powers becomes not just a way of speaking but a fact of reality. When we can see a people who are controlled by an ideology of whiteness, then we know what reconciliation must mean. The coming of Christ means a denial of what we thought we were. It means destroying the white devil in us. Reconciliation to God means that white people are prepared to deny themselves (whiteness), take up the cross (blackness) and follow Christ (black ghetto).

[Moonlight Graham]

wtf at this whole thread.

[Oleg Bach]

There are white N*********** and black ones - "The poor will always be with us" - meaning that people will breed mindlessly creating stupid people - who are not just economically poor - but spiritually and intellectually> We have to be patient with these inferiors and not make them feel uncomfortable. We must show GRACE...meaning the UNDESERVED mercy of God - to treat all as important - that is called class - noblity....to be kind not just to those that deserve reward but kind and civil to all. As far as putting the weight of embarrassment on WHITE PEOPLE....place the weight on all - or NONE! GRACE....and then power and glory results - power is not the taking of power - but granting it to all...for those that move though our streets bringing about violence - address them....and give them the choice - stay - by behaving or be removed to the place of ancestoral origin....Think big or go home!

[lictor616]

wtf at this whole thread.

don't comment then silly

[Oleg Bach]

Don't comment on the no comment double silly you..

[jbg]

I don't see this as a black or white issue at all.This has everything to do with a President that is perhaps the most left leaning in history.The United States has always been a beacon for the rest of the world,for those seeking a better life in the land of opportunity.Like everyone else in these forums,I'm just kind of an armchair politician/general stating an opinion that counts for little.I don't think that Obama's first 100 days have been good for the country since he is taking Americans sharply to the left.He shouldn't be badmouthing his own country in the first place.Who knows how things will be in the States at the end of his first term?I can't dismiss the fact that he is a product of the Illinois political arena,apparently one of the most politically corrupt states in the country or his association with unrepentant terrorist William Ayers.

He better "unlean" or he'll be at most a one-term President.

His country has a way of punishing left-leaners. Just ask Clinton in 1994 or Carter in 1980.

[Oleg Bach]

High end left wingers are the things that become dictatorial bastards - who say we are all equal - while they attempt to live like gods - look at the Clintons and our Magna people - left wing but love their money - a bit to much.

[CANADIEN]

Its funny how you don't see the sickening double standards in your method of judging racists...

At least you acknowledge you are one.

Earlier you called me a "despicable violent racist anti semite hate filled bigot"

I never used the word violent to describe you.

for correctly saying that Males of the royal family are circumcised by the Mohel of London.... (which again is an indisputable fact)

We'll ignore for a moment the fact that you were PARTLY right .That's not why your anti-Semitic bigotry is evident. It's the way you parade your half thruths and complete falsehoods like if we should feel offended by the.

Yet when a black "theologian" like Cone CALLS OUT FOR THE DISAPPEARANCE OF WHITE PEOPLE, or ignominious subjugation of whites (if they do not commit suicide) your reaction is all ho-hum

Wgat part of me calling him a racist did I miss?

what a despicable and inglorious forfeit on your part...

Coming from you, I'll laugh.

I mean for god's sake CANADIEN tell me your not this insanely blind and devoid of logic...

Insane blindless and lack of logic would be to consider him less than a racist, that is a low-life loser scumbag. It would also be to fail to see and say that you are a racist. It's just happen that Cone is not the piece of trash sitting on the other side of my screen. You are.

[lictor616]

At least you acknowledge you are one.

I never used the word violent to describe you.

We'll ignore for a moment the fact that you were PARTLY right .That's not why your anti-Semitic bigotry is evident. It's the way you parade your half thruths and complete falsehoods like if we should feel offended by the.

Wgat part of me calling him a racist did I miss?

Coming from you, I'll laugh.

Insane blindless and lack of logic would be to consider him less than a racist, that is a low-life loser scumbag. It would also be to fail to see and say that you are a racist. It's just happen that Cone is not the piece of trash sitting on the other side of my screen. You are.

you couldn't even define "racist" a few posts ago.

And the subject is Obama, and rather his ideological underpinnings- not the pooh=pooh nasty non-egalitarian anti-communist Heretic "sitting on the other side of your screen".

Again with unsupported accusations... where have I been anti-semetic? WHERE!!&!!&!&!!?!?!?!

And it follows btw that if the people who are B.O's favorite ideologues hate white people and america... that its quite right for us to suspect that Obama also hates "his" country. Right?

I mean if the US were majority black, and a country founded by blacks, and a white president had as his favorite ideologue a white supremacists who hates black people and the blackness of a countries history (as Cone and Obama and Wright do with the "white-ness" of america) ... it'd be fair to say that the white president hates the country... right?

[stevoh]

I mean if the US were majority black, and a country founded by blacks, and a white president had as his favorite ideologue a white supremacists who hates black people and the blackness of a countries history (as Cone and Obama and Wright do with the "white-ness" of america) ... it'd be fair to say that the white president hates the country... right?

I think you don't understand the difference between being critical of a countries flaws, and hating the country.

In the same sermon where Wright said "God Damn America", he also said "God Bless America". You are choosing to interpret what they say as hatred because it matches your political bias.

[CANADIEN]

And the subject is Obama, and rather his ideological underpinnings- not the pooh=pooh nasty non-egalitarian anti-communist Heretic "sitting on the other side of your screen".

Again with unsupported accusations... where have I been anti-semetic? WHERE!!&!!&!&!!?!?!?!

Shall we start with your poorly hidden aaattempt to downplay the Holocaust (if not deny it altogether), or your raving about the supposedly "half-Jewish bastard British monarchy"?

And it follows btw that if the people who are B.O's favorite ideologues hate white people and america... that its quite right for us to suspect that Obama also hates "his" country. Right?

And you know Cone is Obama's favortie ideologue why... because Cone partly influenced a pastor whose church Obama has attended in the past, a pastor whose certaon words were publicy denounced by Obama? Or is it because they are Black, and that by (you) definition Blacks are inferiors, and therefore anything bad said about Obama has to be true? Coming from you, I believe the second.

If Barack Obama shared the extreme racist ideas of that lowlife Cone, I'd say he's a racist. The man who made this speech is not a racist, and he is not someone who hates his country.

I mean if the US were majority black, and a country founded by blacks, and a white president had as his favorite ideologue a white supremacists who hates black people and the blackness of a countries history (...)

I'd call that man a racist. You'd likely slap him on the wrist for not suggesting Blacks be simply thrown out.

[CANADIEN]

I think you don't understand the difference between being critical of a countries flaws, and hating the country.

In the same sermon where Wright said "God Damn America", he also said "God Bless America". You are choosing to interpret what they say as hatred because it matches your political bias.

His bias has nothing to do with politics.

[lictor616]

I think you don't understand the difference between being critical of a countries flaws, and hating the country.

In the same sermon where Wright said "God Damn America", he also said "God Bless America". You are choosing to interpret what they say as hatred because it matches your political bias.

the "God Damn america" is not at all what i'm referring to, if you actually read on James Cone and Wright, and read about black liberation theology, you'd know that they think the US should be abolished because it's a monument to white oppression.

In their own published works: they refer to white americans as "The White Enemy" consistently.. They also liken whites generally to "Satan's Spawn" and "non-humans"... They also believe that white are albinos, and genetically defective creatures that must be exterminated for their own good and the good of humanity (ie: blacks) ...

you're just the one who is choosing to overlook unpleasant facts because you like to live in a pleasant TV world where you don't have to pain yourself with grim realities.

They really do hate, they really are racists, and they really detest America.

If you think that asking for the extermination of a entire people (white americans) and treating non blacks as sub-human "non-humans" is not equivalent to hate... then I'd like to know what is...

If Wright or Cone would have been white spewing similar venom towards non-whites... they'd be identified as hate-speech mongers and doubtlessly jailed.

Edited May 12, 2009 by lictor616