tango Posted April 14, 2009 Report Share Posted April 14, 2009 (edited) http://www.opednews.com/populum/diarypage.php?did=12863 April 13, 2009 at 09:32:26 Permalink 9/11 Thermite Fingerprints Diary Entry by Gene Cappa The dust of the World Trade Center Towers on 9/11 reveals irrefutable evidence of the extensive use of thermite explosives which totally demolished the buildings. :::::::: EXPLOSIVES FOUND IN WTC DUST Explosives Found in World Trade Center Dust Scientists Discover Both Residues And Unignited Fragments Of Nano-Engineered Thermitic Pyrotechnics In Debris From the Twin Towers Traces of explosives in 9/11 dust, scientists say By Elaine Jarvik Deseret News Tiny red and gray chips found in the dust from the collapse of the World Trade Center contain highly explosive materials — proof, according to a former BYU professor, that 9/11 is still a sinister mystery. Physicist Steven E. Jones, who retired from Brigham Young University in 2006 after the school recoiled from the controversy surrounding his 9/11 theories, is one of nine authors on a paper published last week in the online, peer-reviewed Open Chemical Physics Journal. Also listed as authors are BYU physics professor Jeffrey Farrer and a professor of nanochemistry at the University of Copenhagen in Denmark. For several years, Jones has theorized that pre-positioned explosives, not fires from jet fuel, caused the rapid, symmetrical collapse of the two World Trade Center buildings, plus the collapse of a third building, WTC-7. The newest research, according to the journal authors, shows that dust from the collapsing towers contained a "nano-thermite" material that is highly explosive. Although the article draws no conclusions about the source and purpose of the explosives, Jones has previously supported a theory that the collapse of the WTC towers was part of a government conspiracy to ignore warnings about the 9/11 terrorists so that the attack would propel America to wage war against Afghanistan and Iraq. The next step, Jones said in a phone interview on Monday, is for someone to investigate "who made the stuff and why it was there." I wonder if this will even make the mainstream news. Edited April 14, 2009 by tango Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
punked Posted April 14, 2009 Report Share Posted April 14, 2009 http://www.opednews.com/populum/diarypage.php?did=12863April 13, 2009 at 09:32:26 Permalink 9/11 Thermite Fingerprints Diary Entry by Gene Cappa The dust of the World Trade Center Towers on 9/11 reveals irrefutable evidence of the extensive use of thermite explosives which totally demolished the buildings. :::::::: EXPLOSIVES FOUND IN WTC DUST Explosives Found in World Trade Center Dust Scientists Discover Both Residues And Unignited Fragments Of Nano-Engineered Thermitic Pyrotechnics In Debris From the Twin Towers Traces of explosives in 9/11 dust, scientists say By Elaine Jarvik Deseret News Tiny red and gray chips found in the dust from the collapse of the World Trade Center contain highly explosive materials — proof, according to a former BYU professor, that 9/11 is still a sinister mystery. Physicist Steven E. Jones, who retired from Brigham Young University in 2006 after the school recoiled from the controversy surrounding his 9/11 theories, is one of nine authors on a paper published last week in the online, peer-reviewed Open Chemical Physics Journal. Also listed as authors are BYU physics professor Jeffrey Farrer and a professor of nanochemistry at the University of Copenhagen in Denmark. For several years, Jones has theorized that pre-positioned explosives, not fires from jet fuel, caused the rapid, symmetrical collapse of the two World Trade Center buildings, plus the collapse of a third building, WTC-7. The newest research, according to the journal authors, shows that dust from the collapsing towers contained a "nano-thermite" material that is highly explosive. Although the article draws no conclusions about the source and purpose of the explosives, Jones has previously supported a theory that the collapse of the WTC towers was part of a government conspiracy to ignore warnings about the 9/11 terrorists so that the attack would propel America to wage war against Afghanistan and Iraq. The next step, Jones said in a phone interview on Monday, is for someone to investigate "who made the stuff and why it was there." I wonder if this will even make the mainstream news. Orrrrrrrrrrrrrr it proves there was Aluminum, Iron, and burning rocket fuel. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tango Posted April 14, 2009 Author Report Share Posted April 14, 2009 (edited) Orrrrrrrrrrrrrr it proves there was Aluminum, Iron, and burning rocket fuel. indeed? That accounts for this? Scientists Discover Both Residues And Unignited Fragments Of Nano-Engineered Thermitic Pyrotechnics In Debris From the Twin Towers And ... He says there is no benign explanation for the thermite in the WTC dust. Edited April 14, 2009 by tango Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riverwind Posted April 14, 2009 Report Share Posted April 14, 2009 He says there is no benign explanation for the thermite in the WTC dust.Yet he thinks there is a plausible explanation for how a massive hoax involving hundreds of people could have been pulled of without a single whistleblower coming forward?Wake me up when someone finds a credible witness that participated in planting the alleged bombs.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eyeball Posted April 14, 2009 Report Share Posted April 14, 2009 Yet he thinks there is a plausible explanation for how a massive hoax involving hundreds of people could have been pulled of without a single whistleblower coming forward? Don't forget the improbability of this many government employees ever pulling off something of this magnitude without several blowing the cover through sheer incompetence. Wake me up when someone finds a credible witness that participated in planting the alleged bombs.... All this other malarky aside I don't think it would be prudent to take a nap just yet. There are still the root causes and aftermath to investigate not to mention reconcile. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bush_cheney2004 Posted April 14, 2009 Report Share Posted April 14, 2009 ....Wake me up when someone finds a credible witness that participated in planting the alleged bombs.... Why wait for that when there is a willing audience of suckers wanting to believe in such things without any evidence at all. Where is Polynewbie when we need him? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kimmy Posted April 14, 2009 Report Share Posted April 14, 2009 Where is Polynewbie when we need him? He was "disappeared" by sinister forces (aka, Charles.) -k Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tango Posted April 14, 2009 Author Report Share Posted April 14, 2009 without any evidence at all Look again. Tiny red and gray chips found in the dust from the collapse of the World Trade Center contain highly explosive materials Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riverwind Posted April 14, 2009 Report Share Posted April 14, 2009 Tiny red and gray chips found in the dust from the collapse of the World Trade Center contain highly explosive materialsSo? Just because they don't have a explanation for why the material is there does not mean that there is not one. We don't have a lot of experience cleaning up 100 story towers that have been hit by planes. It is hard to know what is normal. In courts this kind of inconclusive circumstantial evidence means nothing unless there is something that corroborates it. Find some corroborating direct evidence such as a person who assisted in the planting the bombs and you may have a point. Until then it is nothing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KrustyKidd Posted April 14, 2009 Report Share Posted April 14, 2009 Look again. Tiny red and gray chips found in the dust from the collapse of the World Trade Center contain highly explosive materials Red and gray chips. Hmmmmm, doesn't quite connect all the dots. I have a conspiracy theory that has a complete timeline with perpetrators, motive, planners, financing and even video. All things being equal, until anybody can provide the same evidence, I'll go with the official version. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tango Posted April 14, 2009 Author Report Share Posted April 14, 2009 Red and gray chips. Hmmmmm, doesn't quite connect all the dots. I have a conspiracy theory that has a complete timeline with perpetrators, motive, planners, financing and even video. All things being equal, until anybody can provide the same evidence, I'll go with the official version. How does "the official version" explain the presence of these highly technical and powerful explosives in different dust samples? I must have missed that! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tango Posted April 14, 2009 Author Report Share Posted April 14, 2009 (edited) So? Just because they don't have a explanation for why the material is there does not mean that there is not one. We don't have a lot of experience cleaning up 100 story towers that have been hit by planes. It is hard to know what is normal. In courts this kind of inconclusive circumstantial evidence means nothing unless there is something that corroborates it. Find some corroborating direct evidence such as a person who assisted in the planting the bombs and you may have a point. Until then it is nothing. Hard evidence like this is much more informative than unreliable eye witnesses. Witnesses can be silenced, ignored, discredited, any number of things can make human testimony unreliable. What would explain the presence of this very sophisticated, highly explosive material? Edited April 14, 2009 by tango Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riverwind Posted April 14, 2009 Report Share Posted April 14, 2009 (edited) What would explain the presence of this very sophisticated, highly explosive material?Don't know. Don't care. Without corroborating evidence it is meaningless. Important scientific point: no evidence is irrefutable. Just because this guy says it come from an explosive that does not mean it did. That is why independent corroborating evidence is key.http://www.wisegeek.com/what-is-circumstantial-evidence.htm A classic example of circumstantial evidence would be testimony from a witness who arrived at a crime scene to find someone holding a smoking gun. The person holding the gun could have committed the crime in question, but he or she could also be an innocent bystander. A piece of corroborating evidence to support a case against the person holding the gun might come from another witness who testifies to hearing a gunshot seconds before the first witness arrived on the scene, suggesting that the murder would not have had a chance to get away. In this case, all of the eye witnesses say the victim died from an 'impact with an airplane'. That makes your 'smoking gun' uninteresting. Find a witness that planted the bombs and you may have something worth looking at. Edited April 14, 2009 by Riverwind Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DogOnPorch Posted April 14, 2009 Report Share Posted April 14, 2009 How come this story isn't in the news and only on 9-11 conspiracy websites? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riverwind Posted April 14, 2009 Report Share Posted April 14, 2009 How come this story isn't in the news and only on 9-11 conspiracy websites?The media is too busy telling us how we are going die of thirst while drowing from the melting ice caps.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DogOnPorch Posted April 14, 2009 Report Share Posted April 14, 2009 The media is too busy telling us how we are going die of thirst while drowing from the melting ice caps.... It can darn well hurry up and melt all this snow. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M.Dancer Posted April 14, 2009 Report Share Posted April 14, 2009 http://www.opednews.com/populum/diarypage.php?did=12863I wonder if this will even make the mainstream news. I doubt the MSM will take notice until it is covered by a more reliable news source like National Enquirer or The Midnight Sun.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Hardner Posted April 14, 2009 Report Share Posted April 14, 2009 How does "the official version" explain the presence of these highly technical and powerful explosives in different dust samples?I must have missed that! In the absence of any other explanation - it may just be a hoax. After all, when you read the paper - the samples didn't come from official sources, but were submitted by citizens who said they gathered it on 9/11, I think. Also, there doesn't seem to be a calculation of how many explosives would have been used, calculating the percentage of mass of thermite in the samples - which is itself suspicious. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tango Posted April 14, 2009 Author Report Share Posted April 14, 2009 In the absence of any other explanation - it may just be a hoax. After all, when you read the paper - the samples didn't come from official sources, but were submitted by citizens who said they gathered it on 9/11, I think.Also, there doesn't seem to be a calculation of how many explosives would have been used, calculating the percentage of mass of thermite in the samples - which is itself suspicious. This is just the initial release of information. No doubt there will be more. I think they've done everything they could to validate the sources of the samples. It's always suspicious to me when the mainstream media ignores an issue of this importance. Very suspicious. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riverwind Posted April 14, 2009 Report Share Posted April 14, 2009 It's always suspicious to me when the mainstream media ignores an issue of this importance.I am more worried about why the media is ignoring stories like this or this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bush_cheney2004 Posted April 14, 2009 Report Share Posted April 14, 2009 This is just the initial release of information. No doubt there will be more. No doubt...we need some fresh hoaxes after all these years. I think they've done everything they could to validate the sources of the samples. Then you have seen the chain of custody documents? It's always suspicious to me when the mainstream media ignores an issue of this importance.Very suspicious. Don't worry, I am sure that Alex Jones and Infowars has picked it up by now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Hardner Posted April 15, 2009 Report Share Posted April 15, 2009 This is just the initial release of information. No doubt there will be more.I think they've done everything they could to validate the sources of the samples. It's always suspicious to me when the mainstream media ignores an issue of this importance. Very suspicious. Sorry, Tango, but without a clean source we have ample reason to doubt this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oleg Bach Posted April 15, 2009 Report Share Posted April 15, 2009 Sorry, Tango, but without a clean source we have ample reason to doubt this. Watching the collapse on TV ---- I saw what appeared to be a block or two away from the WTC - a building simply fell down for no reason - it was building 7....I thought to myself - must have been the vibration from the big collapse --- It was odd and made no sense... this like the JFK killing (facilitated by his VP and friends) has been solved - listening to President Johnstons 90 year old lawyer interviewed it was clear when he reported that during a drinking party - Kennedy's VP said "that son of a bitch won't be bother us anymore"....as for 911 - it was a combination of domestic facilitation - pure stupidity and cut throat opportunism..It was like a man wanting to be hit so he could charge and destroy his assaulter..and sue him - and generate a profit through the war on terror.....the whole thing stinks - Building 7 fell down - for no logical reason. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
punked Posted April 15, 2009 Report Share Posted April 15, 2009 Again Thermite and it's products are an easy compound to identify. If I go to a building right now I beat their is Sulfur, Iron and Aluminum in it. OK now burn it with jet fuel, I bet all these products will be found in the rubble. Now I can draw the conclusion this was caused by Thermite even though it wasn't. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oleg Bach Posted April 15, 2009 Report Share Posted April 15, 2009 Again Thermite and it's products are an easy compound to identify. If I go to a building right now I beat their is Sulfur, Iron and Aluminum in it. OK now burn it with jet fuel, I bet all these products will be found in the rubble. Now I can draw the conclusion this was caused by Thermite even though it wasn't. Me the dumbie says.. 9 11 - was a great opportunity to rule with ease - a rule by those not smart enough to run a country..If it was not for 9 11 - Cheney and Bush and the rest of the boys would be total non-entities...If it was not for 'terrorism" - The last administration would have been noted in the history books as one big NOTHING! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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