BubberMiley Posted February 11, 2009 Report Posted February 11, 2009 You voted for McCain? Really? Quote "I think it's fun watching the waldick get all excited/knickers in a knot over something." -scribblet
Shady Posted February 11, 2009 Author Report Posted February 11, 2009 You voted for McCain? Really? No. But I really liked the idea for a bumper sticker or t-shirt, and better yet, a signature. Quote
GostHacked Posted February 11, 2009 Report Posted February 11, 2009 January 28th is a new poll? It takes the government over a year to say that we are in a recession ... so yeah, that is pretty recent. Quote
Shady Posted February 11, 2009 Author Report Posted February 11, 2009 It takes the government over a year to say that we are in a recession ... so yeah, that is pretty recent. No, it's not recent. Polls don't take years to conduct. The poll is more than 2 weeks old, so pretty much useless. Quote
GostHacked Posted February 11, 2009 Report Posted February 11, 2009 No, it's not recent. Polls don't take years to conduct. The poll is more than 2 weeks old, so pretty much useless. Come on all polls are useless, why the hell are we still posting about them on MLW anyways ?? Most of us already know polls don't mean diddly. Quote
Moonlight Graham Posted February 11, 2009 Report Posted February 11, 2009 Come on all polls are useless, why the hell are we still posting about them on MLW anyways ?? Most of us already know polls don't mean diddly. Polls are useful is you have a large enough sample-size. Quote "All generalizations are false, including this one." - Mark Twain Partisanship is a disease of the intellect.
Shady Posted February 11, 2009 Author Report Posted February 11, 2009 (edited) More "change we can believe in." Raytheon Lobbyist Lynn Confirmed as Deputy Defense Secretary Feb. 11 (Bloomberg) -- Raytheon Co. executive William Lynn was confirmed today by the U.S. Senate to become the Defense Department’s second-highest-ranking civilian. He was a registered lobbyist until March 2008. Bloomberg So much for Obama's promise. Hope n change. "When I'm President, Lobbyists won't find a job in my White House." -- Barack Obama, during campaign. Edited February 11, 2009 by Shady Quote
punked Posted February 12, 2009 Report Posted February 12, 2009 I noticed you liked the old Rasmussen poll on the stimulus how about a new one. http://tpmdc.talkingpointsmemo.com/2009/02...bad-numbers.php Quote
Shady Posted February 12, 2009 Author Report Posted February 12, 2009 I noticed you liked the old Rasmussen poll on the stimulus how about a new one. http://tpmdc.talkingpointsmemo.com/2009/02...bad-numbers.php Yes I do. 44%, so still less than half of those polled oppose the porkulus bill. Again, you really need to actually read the polls before you post them as some sort of argument backer. Quote
punked Posted February 12, 2009 Report Posted February 12, 2009 Yes I do. 44%, so still less than half of those polled oppose the porkulus bill. Again, you really need to actually read the polls before you post them as some sort of argument backer. I read it you didn't. 40% opposed 44% for. 44>40. Just incase you forget math or use crazy right wing math. Quote
Shady Posted February 13, 2009 Author Report Posted February 13, 2009 I read it you didn't. 40% opposed 44% for. 44>40. Just incase you forget math or use crazy right wing math. That's within the margin of error. Again, you might want to actually site a source that backs up your argument, not undermines it. And it's a little different then the 70% you suggested just 3 days ago, don't you think? Quote
GostHacked Posted February 13, 2009 Report Posted February 13, 2009 More "change we can believe in."Raytheon Lobbyist Lynn Confirmed as Deputy Defense Secretary Feb. 11 (Bloomberg) -- Raytheon Co. executive William Lynn was confirmed today by the U.S. Senate to become the Defense Department’s second-highest-ranking civilian. He was a registered lobbyist until March 2008. Bloomberg So much for Obama's promise. Hope n change. "When I'm President, Lobbyists won't find a job in my White House." -- Barack Obama, during campaign. I wonder if Cheney will head back to Haliburton...... hmmmm.... Quote
bush_cheney2004 Posted February 13, 2009 Report Posted February 13, 2009 I wonder if Cheney will head back to Haliburton...... hmmmm.... ...Vice President Cheney never left Haliburton. Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
punked Posted February 13, 2009 Report Posted February 13, 2009 That's within the margin of error. Again, you might want to actually site a source that backs up your argument, not undermines it. And it's a little different then the 70% you suggested just 3 days ago, don't you think? Well considering 55% is a good number becuase at least 3 polling places cam up with that number independently I think I will go with. Numbers do change though although show me where it lost the support of the majority please. I think however we need to talk of your hypocrisy you are ready to declare victory over the same poll I just cited with the numbers reversed but now it is "with in the margin of error?" Yes crazy right wing math. Quote
Shady Posted February 14, 2009 Author Report Posted February 14, 2009 I wonder if Cheney will head back to Haliburton...... hmmmm.... I'm not sure, but how many more promises will Obama break? The list of lies he told during the campaign, just to get elected, is ever growing. Quote
BubberMiley Posted February 15, 2009 Report Posted February 15, 2009 No. But I really liked the idea for a bumper sticker or t-shirt, and better yet, a signature. So you didn't vote for McCain, but you claim to have voted for him in your signature? Doesn't that cause an alarm bell to ring in the "truth detector" on the side of your profile, or does that just work with facts or otherwise that don't suit your ideology? Quote "I think it's fun watching the waldick get all excited/knickers in a knot over something." -scribblet
Shady Posted February 16, 2009 Author Report Posted February 16, 2009 Doesn't that cause an alarm bell to ring in the "truth detector" on the side of your profile, or does that just work with facts or otherwise that don't suit your ideology? Nope. It's just something I feel like many American's will be thinking and saying, in a short period of time. However, an alarm bell does begin to ring when a President makes a public statement, about a CEO claiming he's going to re-hire workers once said President's stimulus bill is passed, but said CEO actually says the exact opposite shortly after. And an alarm bell does begin to ring, when a President, during the campaign, promises not to appoint lobbyists to his Administration, and then goes on to waive that promise and appoint said lobbyists to position after position. And an alarm bell does begin to ring, when a President claims that he's going to make all legislation available 48 hours before voting begins, so that the public can examine said legislation, but then makes the stimulus bill available to read at midnight of the day it's suppose to be voted on by members of congress (a 1000+ page bill of almost a trillion dollars). Hope n change! Quote
Oleg Bach Posted February 16, 2009 Report Posted February 16, 2009 Thats the part I don't get. You give a billion to a company and they promise to re-hire workers. This makes sense that a company can only keep going and continue to produce if they have employees to deploy...but from what I just read, it seems that some of the CEOs are saying - yes we will take the money but will not hire back the workers.....sooooo who gets the money and for what - no workers = no company...all that is left is a useless private individual playing the role of executive with no purpose other than to stay rich. Quote
punked Posted February 16, 2009 Report Posted February 16, 2009 It is like the Don't Blame me I voted for Gore line that seems to be catching on the more and more we asses the Bush presidency. Since Clinton not one net job has been created and no wealth either. http://www.nytimes.com/2009/02/16/opinion/...rss&emc=rss Quote
ironstone Posted February 17, 2009 Report Posted February 17, 2009 The difference with Obama is not that he will occasionally run into people who have issues in their past. It is that he deals with it in an open and honest manner. Obama on Reverend Wright"I never heard him say any of that stuff." Obama on William Ayers"I thought he was rehabilitated." You're joking right?.... Quote "Socialism in general has a record of failure so blatant that only an intellectual could ignore or evade it." Thomas Sowell
stevoh Posted February 17, 2009 Report Posted February 17, 2009 Obama on Reverend Wright"I never heard him say any of that stuff."Obama on William Ayers"I thought he was rehabilitated." You're joking right?.... Nope. I believe him. Quote Apply liberally to affected area.
sharkman Posted February 17, 2009 Report Posted February 17, 2009 Nope. I believe him. Stevoh, he's lying. Just like Clinton lied when he said he never had sex with Miss L. But lies are much less of a priority when he's just saddled the US with the biggest spending bill on top of the Bank bailout. The good news is, although the American voter is a sucker for a good public speaker, they will vote with their pocket books when this bill does not work. Quote
punked Posted February 17, 2009 Report Posted February 17, 2009 Stevoh, he's lying. Just like Clinton lied when he said he never had sex with Miss L. But lies are much less of a priority when he's just saddled the US with the biggest spending bill on top of the Bank bailout. The good news is, although the American voter is a sucker for a good public speaker, they will vote with their pocket books when this bill does not work. Like WMD's saddling the American Tax payer with a war that cost more and didn't give anything back to America? Quote
Oleg Bach Posted February 17, 2009 Report Posted February 17, 2009 Stevoh, he's lying. Just like Clinton lied when he said he never had sex with Miss L. But lies are much less of a priority when he's just saddled the US with the biggest spending bill on top of the Bank bailout. The good news is, although the American voter is a sucker for a good public speaker, they will vote with their pocket books when this bill does not work. By then it will be to late. More irreparable damage will have occured. This is the collapse of the American empire we are no less witnessing. Good public speakers and fine and elequent young speech writers can not save the day. The decadence and decay are to deep and to loud....The simple and tiny fact that a Clinton and or a Bush can look the nation in the face and lie - and that lie is forgiven instantly and taken as normalacy is a travesty and a blight on what was for a time a great nation. The people are so compliant and corrupted themselves that the mythical satan could rule and ask for their first born to be burned and the people would toss the kid in the flames themselves if they thought they would profit. Yes they will vote with their pocket books because they are ruled by the promise of money - that is sent only to their masters and none to them...their own money - talk about an utterly stupified nation. Quote
stevoh Posted February 18, 2009 Report Posted February 18, 2009 Stevoh, he's lying. Just like Clinton lied when he said he never had sex with Miss L. But lies are much less of a priority when he's just saddled the US with the biggest spending bill on top of the Bank bailout. The good news is, although the American voter is a sucker for a good public speaker, they will vote with their pocket books when this bill does not work. Tax breaks, infastructure investments, and increased public sector funding. Which part do you think will fail to generate or keep jobs? I know you guys think he's lying about the ayers thing. But I worked once with a person in a fireplace factory I had the misfortune of working in (on the assembly line) who had been in jail for 15 years. Did I ever ask him what he did? No. Did I assume he was rehabilitated? Well, I pretty much did. I mean, sure, a bit more wary than I would otherwise be sometimes, but otherwise, not an issue. So while you guys might feel Obama was secretly sympathizing with an ex terrorist and chuckling over the idea of bombing things over a joint and exchanging secret black panther handshakes, I believe he met the guy in the context of helping his community (honorable work, after all), and might have thought what I was, that this guy had a past but he is here now, trying to do a good thing, and I don't have a problem with that. If he's lying he has me fooled. *shrug* Quote Apply liberally to affected area.
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