The Federal Republic of Canada

[500channelsurfer]

https://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/politique/2022-09-24/societe-saint-jean-baptiste/une-petition-lancee-pour-exiger-l-abolition-de-la-monarchie-au-quebec.php

The Québecois are already starting. Admittedly the SSJB is fairly radical, but PQ and QS could pick this up. We will have to see if federal leaders also pick up on this for whether there will be a reaction from the other Quebec parties. During the recent debates most Quebec candidates did not want to talk about this as they all said it is extremely low-priority and they do not want to re-open this Pandora's Box. 

[Dougie93]

6 hours ago, Zeitgeist said:

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[-TSS-]

I never really thought about it before but as I checked the geographic area of the EU is only half of that of Canada.

Yet we can't agree amongst our very different selves agree on almost anything so no wonder that even though Canada is a bit more united than the EU even Canada doesn't always work like a small country.

Btw, as canada is currently the second biggest country in the world by landmass be prepared to become the first as Russia is inevitably going to collapse and break apart into smaller countries.

[Dougie93]

On 9/30/2022 at 10:18 PM, -TSS- said:

Yet we can't agree amongst our very different selves agree on almost anything so no wonder that even though Canada is a bit more united than the EU even Canada doesn't always work like a small country.

Canada is really just divided in two

it's called : Deux Solitudes

three quarters of population are essentially a British Victorian culture,

more British than the British in the face of the American menace at the gates

then one quarter of the population are Quebecois

not like republican French

the Quebecois are royalist French, they've always been a monarchy

the House of Bourbon in Nouvelle France,  taken as a war prize by the House of Hanover

it's Wolfe vs. Montcalm forever

[August1991]

Bump.

[August1991]

BTW, I still favour a Federal Republic.

I am a federalist. But I am not a monarchist. 

[CdnFox]

4 minutes ago, August1991 said:

BTW, I still favour a Federal Republic.

I am a federalist. But I am not a monarchist. 

Then you should want a Westminster based system without a monarchy which is fine. But as we see in the states a republic as a disaster. It's a poor model that has never performed well

[August1991]

On 5/20/2020 at 11:14 AM, JohnnyCanuck said:

Wow- I have just come across this thread … I admit I have not read all of the 50 pages of serious comment interspersed with one-liner bs, but I have made a fair sampling of a random dozen postings. I find the majority opinion seems to be that the Queen herself is irrelevant, and a whole lost of posters thoughts are simply - get rid of the Queen and we become a 'free people'  ( err.. no we don't) ! However the title of the thread is The Federal Republic of Canada,  which deserves a lot more attention than just Queen bashing. Here's my take. 

The end of Canada as a constitutional monarchy is ok by me IF the replacement is a Republic in which all Canadians are equal citizens, with equal political representation. The discussion needs to be about creating a Republic in which there are 300 members of parliament each representing 123,000 citizens in equal ridings, regardless of province, and a elected senate of 80 each representing 460,000 citizens in equal ridings, regardless of province..  No longer will a resident of PEI have four times the voting power of a citizen of Victoria,  No longer will New Brunswick, whose population is the same as Vancouver Island have three to four times the political weight of the Vancouver Island representatives.

There are WAY too many opinion pieces swamping  radio and newspapers pandering to simpletons who want no more than the change of title of the Governor General to President, and have the rest of the rotten iniquitous Ottawa closed shop remain as is. 

Let the discussion be about Canada being re-defined as a fair and equal Republic. If this re-definition does not occur then Elizabeth Windsor can remain in place. This is too important a chance to finally sweep the politically privileged out. We cannot waste this chance to just get a simple-simon renaming of the GG to President, after which a certain uninformed mass will prance around shouting 'we're a free people' , while in the background the elite puppetmasters, who benefit from things the way they are now, silently snigger.

I believe the vote in Australia to change to a republic was lost, not because of a surfeit of royalty lovers, but because there were 35% for,  35% against,  and 30% in the middle who would have voted for a republic IF the redefinition of Australia as an equal and fair republic was included.  The vote there envisioned the GG changing title to president and everything remaining the same, so a majority of those in the middle voted NO, hoping that somewhere further down the road a vote on a defined republic will take place. We should learn from their example.

Thoughts anyone?

Imagine. This thread has existed longer than people reading it.

[CdnFox]

1 minute ago, August1991 said:

Imagine. This thread has existed longer than people reading it.

You think the people reading this didn't exist in 2020? I feel like most of them are older than 4 you lunatic 

[August1991]

11 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

Then you should want a Westminster based system without a monarchy which is fine. But as we see in the states a republic as a disaster. It's a poor model that has never performed well

Canada is a federal state with two official federal languages.

Canada has no official culture. Canada is a multicultural, federal state.

I would prefer that we become a federal republic.

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Iceland has survived for centuries. Quebec too. The Catholic Church longer than the word of Mohammed.

Yet, in the very long term, I think counterweigths are better.

Edited August 28, 2024 by August1991

[August1991]

This place Canada, how we define it, our culture - each province - it is our choice.

Canada has no official, federal culture. Canada has no state culture.

But we have two federal languages: for central matters, our federal government must speak to us in French or English. These are federal state languages.

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I object strongly to the US federal Civil Rights Act of 1964. It was a problematic intrusion into State's rights. Trudeau Snr got this right.

With all that said, I prefer asymmetric-federalism. I prefer Lévesque and Souverainté-Association

 

 

Edited August 28, 2024 by August1991

[CdnFox]

2 hours ago, August1991 said:

Canada is a federal state with two official federal languages.

Canada has no official culture. Canada is a multicultural, federal state.

What country has an 'official culture'?  I can think of a few with a state religion but that's not the same

You revived this thread to just spout nonsense? Do you EVER know what you're talking about?

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I would prefer that we become a federal republic.

Do you even know the difference between a republic and the westminster system? Or is this another one of your ' i heard something once, didn't understand it, but now i'm emotionally invested in it " things?

[blackbird]

6 hours ago, August1991 said:

BTW, I still favour a Federal Republic.

I am a federalist. But I am not a monarchist. 

"17  Honour all men. Love the brotherhood. Fear God. Honour the king. " 1 Peter 2:17 KJV

[August1991]

bump.