CANADIEN Posted September 17, 2008 Report Share Posted September 17, 2008 My point with the Bible, is that the First Nations should be grateful they are still around to whine and cry about their plight. Where's the First Nation alphabet? Whoever said Canada is an independent Country. Canada is still beholden to the Queen and that is a fact. Want to revisit your imbecile theory that First Nations did not have a language and that they just emitted sound because their language didn't have a written form? And that it is made clear in the Bible, along with the fact that God would have just yawned if there had been a genocide in North America? Please don't. I for one want you to make a fool of yourself in new and original ways. And like it or not, Canada is an independant country. You would prefer to be an European, move there. Just don't tell them you are Canadian; I don't want us to lose the good reputation we have over there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leafless Posted September 17, 2008 Report Share Posted September 17, 2008 And like it or not, Canada is an independant country. You would prefer to be an European, move there. Just don't tell them you are Canadian; I don't want us to lose the good reputation we have over there. Maybe Canadien can tell us how did Canada become an independent country? And I wouldn't worry to much about Canada's good reputation in Europe, not that I give a damn what Europe thinks: The Council of Europe's secretary general, Terry Davies, "likened the Harper government to Pontius Pilate, the Roman governor who 'washed his hands' of the decision to crucify Jesus Christ because a mob demanded Christ's execution."Davies said that by refusing to seek clemency for Albertan Ronald Smith, a convicted murderer facing the death penalty in Montana, Harper was essentially "subcontracting" out capital punishment, "exactly the same way the United States of America has sent people to places like Afghanistan, where they are subject to torture and inhuman and degrading treatment in order to get them to give evidence when Americans themselves couldn't do it in America and no Europeans would do it." Second, the Toronto Star is reporting today that Radhika Coomaraswamy, the UN Special Representative for Children in Armed Conflict, has complained to the U.S. secretary of state's top legal adviser, John Bellinger, about the implications of trying Omar Khadr with war crimes. "She raised her concerns about the creation of an international precedent where an individual is being tried for war crimes with regard to alleged acts committed when he was a child," said spokesperson Laurence Gerard, as reported in the Star. Canada, "has taken a hands-off approach to his case, saying he's accused of serious crimes that include spying, conspiracy, attempted murder and material support for terrorism," writes the Star. "Other western countries have intervened to get their citizens out of Guantanamo, including Britain." Finally, and this is triply embarrassing, Khadr's lawyer, U.S. navy Lt.-Cmdr. William Kuebler, having failed to convince Canada to do anything for one of its citizens languishing in the legal black hole that is Guantanamo Bay, is urging Britain to put pressure on the Harper government to intervene. http://www.canadians.org/integratethis/ins...007/Nov-21.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CANADIEN Posted September 17, 2008 Report Share Posted September 17, 2008 Maybe Canadien can tell us how did Canada become an independent country? I forgot.... You probably never heard of the Statute of Westminster. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
g_bambino Posted September 17, 2008 Report Share Posted September 17, 2008 I forgot.... You probably never heard of the Statute of Westminster. Better still, the Canada Act, 1982. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
g_bambino Posted September 17, 2008 Report Share Posted September 17, 2008 No, not all of us are immigrants. Historical Canadians were settlers from France, England, or other countries in the CommonWealth. Oh, well at least you've no problem with "historical Canadians" from: - Antigua and Barbuda - Bahamas - Bangladesh - Barbados - Belize - Botswana - Brunei - Cameroon - Cyprus - Dominica - Gambia - Ghana - Grenada - Guyana - India - Jamaica - Kenya - Kiribati - Lesotho - Malawi - Malaysia - Maldives - Malta - Mauritius - Mozambique - Namibia - Nauru - Nigeria - Pakistan - Papua New Guinea - Saint Kitts and Nevis - Saint Vincent and the Grenadines - Samoa - Seychelles - Sierra Leone - Singapore - Solomon Islands - South Africa - Sri Lanka - Swaziland - Tanzania - Tonga - Trinidad and Tobago - Tuvalu - Uganda - Vanuatu and - Zambia Is it just the Chinese you hate? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moonbox Posted September 17, 2008 Report Share Posted September 17, 2008 Whoever said Canada is an independent Country. Canada is still beholden to the Queen and that is a fact. No it's not. It's not a fact either. If the Queen commanded anything of us the Commonwealth in its entirety would laugh at her. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oleg Bach Posted September 17, 2008 Report Share Posted September 17, 2008 No it's not. It's not a fact either. If the Queen commanded anything of us the Commonwealth in its entirety would laugh at her. This is like the up and coming Obama boondoggle - supposedly he is not a citzen natural to the USA either. - and don't be laughing at the Queen or her extended family and friends that are loyal to the old traditions..she is not a mere figurehead - when you can shut down an oil pipe line because you are to cheap to fix the holes - (BP in Alaska) - well that's power - and Charely can induce famine via his seed company - so show some respect. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
g_bambino Posted September 17, 2008 Report Share Posted September 17, 2008 No it's not. It's not a fact either. If the Queen commanded anything of us the Commonwealth in its entirety would laugh at her. You sure about that? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PoliticalCitizen Posted September 17, 2008 Report Share Posted September 17, 2008 You sure about that? OMG: "Elizabeth the Second, by the Grace of God of the United Kingdom, Canada and Her other Realms and Territories QUEEN, Head of the Commonwealth, Defender of the Faith." If that doesn't insult the intelligence of a free person in a democratic society, I don't know what does... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
g_bambino Posted September 17, 2008 Report Share Posted September 17, 2008 OMG:"Elizabeth the Second, by the Grace of God of the United Kingdom, Canada and Her other Realms and Territories QUEEN, Head of the Commonwealth, Defender of the Faith." If that doesn't insult the intelligence of a free person in a democratic society, I don't know what does... Lobby to have a new law grant her a more complex title, then. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PoliticalCitizen Posted September 17, 2008 Report Share Posted September 17, 2008 Lobby to have a new law grant her a more complex title, then. Well apparently GOD gave her this title, who am I to change it... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
g_bambino Posted September 17, 2008 Report Share Posted September 17, 2008 Well apparently GOD gave her this title, who am I to change it... The parliament of Canada is god? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PoliticalCitizen Posted September 17, 2008 Report Share Posted September 17, 2008 The parliament of Canada is god? I was just using the expression from her title "by the Grace of God". A change I would lobby would be to get rid of both role and image of the UK Monarch in Canadian State and Law. But that's a different topic... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oleg Bach Posted September 17, 2008 Report Share Posted September 17, 2008 The parliament of Canada is god? God is goodness - when parliment does good for us they can play god...when they do bad for us and serve themselves - well the godless goodless parliment will face an election - to bad no one votes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
g_bambino Posted September 17, 2008 Report Share Posted September 17, 2008 I was just using the expression from her title "by the Grace of God".A change I would lobby would be to get rid of both role and image of the UK Monarch in Canadian State and Law. But that's a different topic... I know, but you were mistaken about where her title originated. Your desires also seem misled: what you want to lobby for was done already 77 years ago. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oleg Bach Posted September 17, 2008 Report Share Posted September 17, 2008 I know, but you were mistaken about where her title originated. Your desires also seem misled: what you want to lobby for was done already 77 years ago. "Grace" - literally means - The undeserved mercy of God ..translated - class! To show real and true class you must show mercy even to the nasty and stupid - that is grace and the Queen has that characteristic - maybe we should get some grace also instead of picking on those that have class - those with grace and noble qualities are persected these days because - honour is bad for buisness - as we have seen south of the boarder. This lack of grace has led to a possible depression..once there is no grace shown the populace and there is no justice - then the humans become depressed and an economic depression follows.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PoliticalCitizen Posted September 17, 2008 Report Share Posted September 17, 2008 I know, but you were mistaken about where her title originated. Your desires also seem misled: what you want to lobby for was done already 77 years ago. Oh, you may be right... Let me check my wallet... a 20 buck banknote... Oh no! She's still there Let me check the recent political process... S. Harper asked M. Jean... Governor General, elected... on no! appointed by the Queen... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
g_bambino Posted September 17, 2008 Report Share Posted September 17, 2008 Oh, you may be right...Let me check my wallet... a 20 buck banknote... Oh no! She's still there Let me check the recent political process... S. Harper asked M. Jean... Governor General, elected... on no! appointed by the Queen... You're confusing your monarchs; same person, different hats. The British hat hasn't been worn for Canada in 77 years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oleg Bach Posted September 17, 2008 Report Share Posted September 17, 2008 You're confusing your monarchs; same person, different hats. The British hat hasn't been worn for Canada in 77 years. If the Queens picture is on the money - it means it is her money and we are just using it..much like the old Roman coins - render onto Ceasar what is his....IF the Queen did not own the money someone would have taken her picture off a long time ago. So do you want to share in the common wealth - or do you want a Euro or MexiCanada buck? I prefere the old Christian free enterprise socialism that is the common purse that is our commonwealth! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
g_bambino Posted September 17, 2008 Report Share Posted September 17, 2008 If the Queens picture is on the money - it means it is her money and we are just using it..much like the old Roman coins I know. It's just that we have to remember that it is the Queen of Canada's money and not the Queen of the UK's, though they be the same woman. Her money in one of her countries is not legal tender in one of her others. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oleg Bach Posted September 17, 2008 Report Share Posted September 17, 2008 I know. It's just that we have to remember that it is the Queen of Canada's money and not the Queen of the UK's, though they be the same woman. Her money in one of her countries is not legal tender in one of her others. Well said. Her money is legal here - so what's the problem? When it is useless in Canada - then we have an issue. So far no issue...I like the steely eyed demi-gods image on our bank notes - makes me feel like we have a history and we are an established society...look at American money....not much to look at except for a balding rebel call Franklin. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whowhere Posted September 17, 2008 Report Share Posted September 17, 2008 Here's what's really happening: Canada wants to avoid investing in breeding its own people and chose to import immigrants instead. Not only they are not "rejects" - they are the best of the educated and well-off middle-class of whatever countries they come from - the cream of their societies. Do you watch the news or read the paper? Immigrants whine how their credentials are not recognized and how they are in Canada scrubbing toilets and driving cab to earn a living. Wah...... Cream of the crop hey?? Sounds like Country rejects to me. Couldn't cut the mustard wherever they came from so they come to Canada looking for the red carpet treatment but the reality is the Employers see them as cheap labour to exploit. Immigrants displace Canadians from their jobs, drive down wages, and water down Canada's democratic voice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M.Dancer Posted September 17, 2008 Report Share Posted September 17, 2008 All you have done is affirm that Canada/Canadians lack the intellect to convert resources into finished products. To fix this, the liberals and the conservatives believe bringing in other countries rejects will do something about Canada's dim wit. You mean Like Frank Stronach? Bata? K.Y. Ho? Rejects? Why do you always come to the battle of wits unarmed? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M.Dancer Posted September 17, 2008 Report Share Posted September 17, 2008 All you have done is affirm that Canada/Canadians lack the intellect to convert resources into finished products. What I have affirmed is.... Let the facts speak for themselves. The Liberals and the Conservatives have turned Canada into a resource economy You are a buffoon who rants without having the slightist grasp of any facts, and when confronted with facts you merely side step and go on another idiotic rant. You are not smart enough enough to be a troll and you are not entertaining enough to pay attention to. I'm done. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whowhere Posted September 17, 2008 Report Share Posted September 17, 2008 Want to revisit your imbecile theory that First Nations did not have a language and that they just emitted sound because their language didn't have a written form? And that it is made clear in the Bible, along with the fact that God would have just yawned if there had been a genocide in North America? Please don't. I for one want you to make a fool of yourself in new and original ways.And like it or not, Canada is an independant country. You would prefer to be an European, move there. Just don't tell them you are Canadian; I don't want us to lose the good reputation we have over there. Yes, Europe knows Canada is a joke. A modern day Canadian is enough to rile a laugh or two. Not with Canadians but at them. The fact Canada has its origins dating back into the 16th century. The Canadians of that Canada were the French Settlers not immigrants from France. These Canadians are talked about in the documented writings of George Washington. You may have heard of him?? The First president of the United States? (Yes I know you have already called him a liar) Canada and the Canadians became an occupied people by the English in 1759. This was during the 7 year war in Europe. France was blocked from sending its Warships so the colony was lost and fell under occupation. Canada and those of Canada were British Subjects up until 1955 (somewhere around there) at which point those of Canada shifted to being Citizens. Strangely in 1982 those of Canada were not treated as Citizens but treated as British Subjects when the Queen, the liberals, and the Supreme Court Unilaterally imposed a constitution on the people of Canada without a vote by the people of Canada. That said, at what point did those of Canada cease to be subjects and treated like citizens? At what point have those of Canada had a say in the broad actions imposed on them by the Liberals and Conservatives?? ZILCH. You see what makes Canada and Canadians a world wide joke is that modern Canadians are about as much Canadian as Americans are Iraqi (Because the US is in Iraq) or the Russians were German (Because they occupied East Germany), or the British were Chinese (Because they Occupied Hong Kong), or the British and French are Indian (Because they both occupied India), and the list goes on. The Canadians and Canada fell under British Occupation in 1759. The Canadians and Canada has never been Liberated or freed per say. The joke is we have the British Occupier trying to assume the identity of the Canadian. Can fungus on cheese become cheese? Can mold on fruit become fruit? Sorry Pal, a parasite never becomes its host!! So Canadien, Canadians are a modern day joke to those who have examined history. As for the bible, I will be more than happy to bring forward more quotes. It's full of lot of great stuff. Man is very lucky to have such a book. It calms the spirit and sooths the soul. I take great comfort in the God portrayed in this book. He's somewhat of a superhero, there to lead the way and fight your battles. If he likes you enough you are included in the "BOOK OF LIFE." If not, oh well, sucks to be you. Enjoy your life as cheese fungus or fruit mold Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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