Fight the SPP / North American Union

V for Vick · May 31, 2008

Many Canadians are still unaware of the Security and Prosperity Partnership, and the emerging North American Union that is merging Canada, US, and Mexico into one country. Every Canadian should at the very least find out about the SPP and NAU, and fight it if they want to keep Canadian soverignty and independence

CANADIAN ACTION PARTY (canadianactionparty.ca)

If you want to find fault with the SPP, dont' look at the official website!!! The main glaring fault is that NONE of this was discussed during elections, and people did not give the government authority to go ahead with it. The SPP is NAFTA on steroids, it is the political and economic integration of North America. Our forefathers faught in 1812, Vimy Ridge, and many other battles to keep our independence, and these politicians are JUST GIVING IT AWAY!!!!

Another glaring fault is that the main drivers behind the SPP are mega-corporations. Indeed, a team of 48 corporations (16 from each country) are currently rewriting many of our regulations pertaining to just about everything, to suit their profit motives. What Canadians want is not being considered.

Have you heard of the NAFTA superhighway? It is currently underway, and it is linked with the SPP, and no one is telling the Canadian people about it, except for the Canadian Action Party. The superhighway, will go from Mexico to Canada; basically, cheap goods from China will arrive in Mexico, Mexicans will get the jobs for loading, transporting, and assembling the goods since their wages are much lower. The goods will then flood the US and Canadian Markets.

THE END RESULT WILL BE FURTHER LOSSES OF OUR HIGH PAYING JOBS, AND FURTHER LOWERING OF OUR STANDARD OF LIVING

CANADIAN ACTION PARTY (canadianactionparty.ca)

Topaz · May 31, 2008

I think the problem is alot of Canadians haven't heard of the Spp or the nau and some of the Canadians that have, some of them don't believe it will or could happen and IF it is going to happen the government will have no trouble bringing it in and then it will be too late! The NDP has tried to bring a bill up so it could get a debate going but so far nothing has happen. This is could be why Harper is so secretive about what he is doing and we do have the Canadian and the US military inching closer into being one. Just keep yoour eyes and ears open and watch what the government wants to change more to the US ways.

V for Vick · May 31, 2008

The Canadian Action Party is the only party that supports terminating the SPP, and we are petitioning for Canadians to demand there be a referendum on the issue. The SPP was NEVER talked about in the elections, and it just sort've happened without any voter consent. THAT IS NOT DEMOCRACY.

The NDP merely wants a vote in parliament on the issue, that is a pretty weak stance. The SPP will effect virtually every aspect of our lives, the People of Canada deserve to have an election/referendum on such a pivot issue. The Conservatives and Liberals are both on the same page here, they fully support giving away our independence without any voter approval. STOP THEM.

Michael Hardner · May 31, 2008

You know, there's already a thread about pretty much the same thing:

http://www.mapleleafweb.com/forums//index....c=11406&hl=

bush_cheney2004 · May 31, 2008

....This is could be why Harper is so secretive about what he is doing and we do have the Canadian and the US military inching closer into being one. Just keep yoour eyes and ears open and watch what the government wants to change more to the US ways.

Ha! Canada adopted "US ways" a long, long time ago. :lol:

M.Dancer · May 31, 2008

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scribblet · June 1, 2008

Many Canadians are still unaware of the Security and Prosperity Partnership, and the emerging North American Union that is merging Canada, US, and Mexico into one country. Every Canadian should at the very least find out about the SPP and NAU, and fight it if they want to keep Canadian soverignty and independence

Maybe they actually believe it is just a trade pact, and not a conspiracy to merge us all into one country :rolleyes:

eyeball · June 1, 2008

Trade pacts probably aren't worth the paper their written on when they're signed by countries that still maintain internal inter-provincial trade barriers.

Don't get me wrong, I really do suscribe to the idea 'the freer the trade the freer the people'. I just don't see that being encouraged for human people. This SPP sounds more like another agreement amongst corprations ...folks just like us but more so...or so it would seem.

Topaz · June 2, 2008

This weekend I came across this interview with Daniel Estulin who wrote the book "The true story of the Bilderberg Group" and in his book he says that the Bilderberg Group, the council of Foreign Relations and the Trilateral Commission is all run by the Bilderbery Group. They aim to to have a one world government and not a one world order. They also want to get rid of the middle-class and make it RICH-them and the poor-servants, US, the people. Money and energy is very important to them and that the Iraq war was part of their plan because of the oil and that Iran war won't happen because Russia has put too money into this country with China. The members are world leaders and the riches of the world, making it easy for them to do what they want. He said in 1996 meeting at Bilderberg Group, it was there that the NAU and the break up of Canada was planned but word out and they are having a time with it and if and when it happens its Canadians own fault for not listening to the warning now going on. He also says that the large Media corp. are members and are told what to say, that the Euro is part of it and soon the Amero will be NA`s legal tender making it easier to govern the world. When Canada held the annual meeting here, he said one topic was the creating of the UN army. He was aksed who attends this meeting and he said its head of countries, past heads, other politicians, the very rich. As far as names, it David Rockenfeller, the Clintons, Bushs, and if Obama and McCain aren`t members they soon will be. He said he`s still trying to find out who is the head guy who is control of all this. I would think it would have to be one of the riches men in the world. So, I think we as Canadians should pay very close to whatever party is in and see what they do to help bring the one world government to past like the NAU. Before you say it won`t or can`t happen, no one thought planes would fly into the WT building and come to think of it maybe the Bilderberg Group had more to do with that than OBL. and that is were the inside job cames to be.

bush_cheney2004 · June 2, 2008

...Before you say it won`t or can`t happen, no one thought planes would fly into the WT building and come to think of it maybe the Bilderberg Group had more to do with that than OBL. and that is were the inside job cames to be.

Wrong....aircraft impact into the WTC was a specific design requirement (Boeing 707). A B-25 Mitchell medium bomber crashed into the Empire State Building in July, 1945.

Drea · June 2, 2008

Wrong....aircraft impact into the WTC was a specific design requirement (Boeing 707).

HA!

Then you are admitting that those three buildings were designed to withstand (not fall, not burn to the ground) a hit by large aircraft!

OR

you admit that they were they specifically designed to fall (tickety boo into their own footprints right)?

:lol:

sharkman · June 2, 2008

Maybe they actually believe it is just a trade pact, and not a conspiracy to merge us all into one country

And we need such a trade pact desperately to regain clout lost to the EU and that which we will lose to China in the coming decade. If we stand still, we will be squeezed out.

M.Dancer · June 2, 2008

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bush_cheney2004 · June 2, 2008

HA!
Then you are admitting that those three buildings were designed to withstand (not fall, not burn to the ground) a hit by large aircraft!

OR

you admit that they were they specifically designed to fall (tickety boo into their own footprints right)?

A mind is a terrible thing to waste, but I am willing to make an exception in this case.

Michael Hardner · June 2, 2008

Ok, so is the CAP the party of the "truther" then ?

I'd like to know what stuff they're made of...

M.Dancer · June 2, 2008

Ok, so is the CAP the party of the "truther" then ?
I'd like to know what stuff they're made of...

Aluminium and toaster parts.

Topaz · June 2, 2008

Wrong....aircraft impact into the WTC was a specific design requirement (Boeing 707). A B-25 Mitchell medium bomber crashed into the Empire State Building in July, 1945.

Since I wasn't around in 1945, tell more about this. How and why didn it happen?

Topaz · June 2, 2008

Since I wasn't around in 1945, tell more about this. How and why didn it happen?

I checked it out myself and and yes you are right but there is a big difference, 9/11 was planned and I still say it was an inside job and even though 14 people were killed in 1945 crash, 2700+ were killed, people lives were destroyed, health problems for many people and the loss of liberties to the US citizen!!

M.Dancer · June 2, 2008

I checked it out myself and and yes you are right but there is a big difference, 9/11 was planned and I still say it was an inside job and even though 14 people were killed in 1945 crash, 2700+ were killed, people lives were destroyed, health problems for many people and the loss of liberties to the US citizen!!

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segnosaur · June 4, 2008

Wrong....aircraft impact into the WTC was a specific design requirement (Boeing 707)

HA!

Then you are admitting that those three buildings were designed to withstand (not fall, not burn to the ground) a hit by large aircraft!

OR

you admit that they were they specifically designed to fall (tickety boo into their own footprints right)?

This is a little off topic, but since the thread was basically created by someone spamming on behave of the Canadian action party, I don't feel too guilty about mentioning this...

The WTC was designed to handle a collision with a 707 that was low on fuel and flying slow (as in the case of it searching for the airport in a fog). It was not designed to handle a collision with larger planes (like the 767) which were flying at higher speeds, with a full load of fuel.

madmax · June 20, 2008

Ha! Canada adopted "US ways" a long, long time ago.

Not the Mexican Radio

GostHacked · June 20, 2008

http://history1900s.about.com/od/1940s/a/empirecrash.htm

Topaz, I doubt the B-25 was an inside job.

At 9:49 a.m., the ten-ton, B-25 bomber smashed into the north side of the Empire State Building. The majority of the plane hit the 79th floor, creating a hole in the building eighteen feet wide and twenty feet high. The plane's high-octane fuel exploded, hurtling flames down the side of the building and inside through hallways and stairwells all the way down to the 75th floor.

The Empire State Building is drasticly different in construction compared to the World Trade Center. Mostly reinforced concrete and steel. THE ESB is a very very solid building. A slow moving B-25 (already going slow due to weather conditions did not cause as much damage as one expected.

At 9:49 a.m., the ten-ton, B-25 bomber smashed into the north side of the Empire State Building. The majority of the plane hit the 79th floor, creating a hole in the building eighteen feet wide and twenty feet high. The plane's high-octane fuel exploded, hurtling flames down the side of the building and inside through hallways and stairwells all the way down to the 75th floor.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boeing_707

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boeing_767

767 is slower than the 707, but the 767 had a larger capacity for cargo, not sure about fuel capacity.

And I have looked into the SPP and NAU, it is happening economicaly first, then it will be one large 'country'.

Fain · June 20, 2008

Free Trade is good for business on both sides. Labour Mobility would be awesome as well. I should have the freedom to sell goods to americans, made by mexicans via Canada trucks and have none of the regulatory nightmare that is here right now.

In the end, I desire a set-up with one currency, and enough labour freedom to be able to get a job in America on whim.

Jim · July 4, 2008

Free Trade is good for business on both sides. Labour Mobility would be awesome as well. I should have the freedom to sell goods to americans, made by mexicans via Canada trucks and have none of the regulatory nightmare that is here right now.
In the end, I desire a set-up with one currency, and enough labour freedom to be able to get a job in America on whim.

One currency...go do it in Europe because it ain't gonna happen here!

Bryan · July 4, 2008

Free Trade is good for business on both sides. Labour Mobility would be awesome as well. I should have the freedom to sell goods to americans, made by mexicans via Canada trucks and have none of the regulatory nightmare that is here right now.
In the end, I desire a set-up with one currency, and enough labour freedom to be able to get a job in America on whim.

I'm all for the freedom to cross into other markets in various ways, what I oppose is restriction on what we can and can't do inside our own country. Yes, you MAY buy our resources if you want them and we want to sell them, but NO you don't have any right to them nor do you have the right to dictate what price we will charge you for them. That's a lot different than how these trade pacts usually end up.