Army Guy

Call it what you want....but the majority of Canadians have spoken with their votes, and they said we should punish those pesky terrorist in the middle east.....but then again thats what happens when you stick your head in the sand the world passes you by....

Here are some Omar supporters. read the comments section and tell me these guys don't support Omar.....below are numbers of Canadians that support Omar....as for names on the forum that support Omar....i think you can find more than a few.... http://www.ctvnews.ca/canada/judge-reserves-decision-on-whether-omar-khadr-should-be-moved-to-provincial-prison-1.1466198 http://www.change.org/en-CA/petitions/free-omar-khadr

Thats the problem here....if it did not get put on the information highway for general consumption, then it did not happen period....and yet US and Canadian agencies do just that everyday but refrain from telling the public because of national security concerns... But then again it's the WWWTT's in the world that are the first to scream bloody murder when a terrorist attack does happen, and could not be prevented..Thats the problem with a democracy is'nt it , majority rules you don't have to like it just live with it....

I suppose that if you broke it down to the lowest level your statement would be true, soldiers don't fight for queen, country, etc the fight for their closest buddies....however, every soldier knows what a war crime is, and we police our own....making sure that it did not happen, or the person responsable is held accountable....case in piont the young Capt who shot the wounded taliban , that was reported by one of his soldiers....the rules are there to protect people, in an already hellish enviroment. and is only as good as the soldiers over seeing it...

The new forece test is a joke....my 5 year old grand daughter could pass it....

Below are the minimum standards for CF recruits, i think when you read them you'll understand standards are not so high. http://www.cg.cfpsa.ca/cg-pc/Winnipeg/EN/MilitaryFitness/Specialist%20Testing/CF%20Applicant%20Testing/Pages/default.aspx This is the problem, that standards have been lowered, to the piont where they are non effective.almost anyone can make them..... note that this is not only phyiscal standards but mental standards as well. On a side note if your cant make these standards as a recruit then there is fat camp, thats right a company within the recruit school that dedicates itself to putting people in shape, they place recruits on a diet, and regtimented PT plan these recruits have up to one full year to be able to make min standards....Thats one full year recruits are being paid to loss wieght.....if they can't make the standard then they are asked to leave. Because anyone is entitled to be afford every oportunity to join DND. These recruits count as part of DND membership.... Why standards need to be increased, to havest a better recruit, be it white or black, purple what ever....In Afghan within 3 days of arriving we were marching through the mountains with over 160 lbs of kit, ammo, water etc....i'm 6'3 and struggled...men smaller than that really struggled....the only female medic could not lift her own ruck...and it had to be divided amounst the rest of the platoon....don't get me wrong she was a great medic, but we were at war, and being able to phyiscally able to hump all the equipment to do our job was not a matter of having a diverse army....but rather a matter of survival not just for one self but the entire platoon..... Some have said well not everyone is in combat....bullshit, in Afghan everyone was in combat once they left the front gate...we had a female medic, an airforce FAC Forward air controler, a navy diver as our EOD guy......and once a clerk as a Radio man.. ....and those leasons learned are now being adressed.....it's not about being a male chauvinist, it's about common sense...lives are at risk.

Yes you are responsable to ensure your comunication is clear and concise and anything, that could be misrepresented is clear to everyone involved. it should also be free of anything that might be considered harrasment.....twice you suggested that old men were not of the same standard , thinking they were old and feable, then suggesting they were not educated to your standard....Harrassment is anything the reciever precieves as harrassment...So it is a double edge sword.... Yes i know your a women....i don't have a issue with that, it seems you do, and expect to be treated differently....with a softer glove. and yet you wanted to be treated as an equal....which one is it.... Your right i did twist your words around, i thought it might be funney, as that is the way i thought you meant it. Im sorry if i offended you in any way, it won't happen again.... Your right the Army is a tougher place where womens skin is not so thin. my bad once again. If you think you got what it takes walk down to the recruiting center, the CF is always looking for women to increase their numbers....you know what they say the best changes come from within.... On the other issue I've been doing this job for over 30 years, and it is very rare that i can be out soldiered by any younger model, male or female.....maybe you Might be the first.

And this was not.....sounds like something you'd here at a jello wrestling ring.....rather than a NDHQ planning conference....or debate on military manning.

If you have read them , then you know the difference between the two, who makes that decision that indiv does.... by their actions....IE if the non combatant picks up a wpn or aids the enemy they become a illigal combatant, and can be targeted at will. These laws and conventions are meant to protect non combatant's....if they are not followed, then war would become more hellish than it is... Thats a pretty big statement, although some nations have had soldiers break some rules, we can hardly paint the whole nation with the same brush, unless it has produced a policy stating such. We also have to remember some conventions have huge loop holes. I'd be curious what conventions or rules Canada broke intentionally.

Perhaps the question should read should there be consquences to breaking the laws and conventions of war. This terrorist was a non Combatant and the rules that govern non combatants are very clear, they are there to protect civilians during war....if he can break them at will why have them, why not just open the battle field up to include everyone. Yes, but what did the Canadian government do to mistreat him ? but that works both ways, his victims should have the same rights. No, not until the Liberals of this country grow a set...and treat him like the terrorist he is....he made that chioce and is now living with the consquences....Ya he was 15 , he commited adult crimes and knew what was right and wrong, and now he is serving his time. just like any other young offender in this country.... Do we pay him out , because he got his feelings hurt.....NO...it would be a slap in the face to all those that served this nation, it would be a slap in the face to the memory of those that did not come home alive.....it would be a slap in the face to all Canadians.... If the Khadrs don't like it, have them call me not only will i pay for the plane tickets, but i'll drive them to the airport..... 60 Million bucks what a joke.....when the max pay out for our own soldiers is 250 K and only in special circumstances....lets wake the F*** up.

I think we all understand perfectly....The courts are NOT doing enough to punish criminals period.....This was not an accident, it was the result of a grown man lossing control and striking a 13 year old for some stupid reason, it was meant to inflict pain and suffering to a child.....( which i thought was again'st the law).....who in this case is simply thrown away...her death not even given a second look, his providing for his family seems to be given a higher priority....the guy is 74 years old , how much can he be providing...send his ass to jail alot longer than 2 years, give him something to think about before he kills again.... How much time would he have recieved if he had done this in the public eye, and not killed her....60 days is a joke, it sends the wrong message....ridiculous indeed, that we shrug this off as a minor crime, that deserves no more attention than someone jay walking....

Is this going to involve jello....or veg oil....

So thats what this is all about, Russia ....and here i thought it was about Ukraine as an independent country, capable of making chioces in her own best interest.....Like i said before who else is going to take the stand, who has the power to do that....or do we wait until Russia decides when it's done if she is done....

Now thats funney shit right there.....

So if not the US , then who would have enough clout to make mother Russia stop....maybe the EU....maybe NATO....oh wait the US is NATO....who is going to tell mother Russia enough, or do we let her take what she wants....because the US is no better....

There are lots of stories out there, and alot of them are true, the military is made up from people all across the nation, and is a reflection of our morals and values....I'm sure if you took another big company such as GM , Ford you'll find the same problem....this is not just a military problem...although the government has put in place alot of ground breaking advances in these areas and made alot of ground up....still a ways to go....but again it is an average of all Canadians You have to remember that the military was once a mans world, and in the early 90's things began to change....thats not all that long ago....now we have women in the Infantry, Infact our Regt is going to recieve it's first female commanding officer ever....things are not perfect but they are better than in the past... As for discriminating other ethnic back grounds , ya it all happened, most of the stories are true, but again it is getting better...but just a piont not all Canada's minorities want to join the military, they are fleeing their own nations for these reasons.....they don't trust the military, or government or police....they perfer to find work else where..... But to attract these groups vital standards have been lowered , it's not the direction we should be heading in....toughen up the standards, and if you want to get in then there is the recruiting station.....pass the standards and welcome to the team....It should not have anything to do with white, black, male or female....

The government is not posting links on bad processes , they have enough problems without airing dirty laundry.....they will say they have a process in place, but i doubt you'll find dirt on them...

They cover it but it is not stressed, we want them to stay in...... at the recruit level, but it is fully explained in a SCAN seminar for members thinking about retiring. Also at job fairs that are occasionally held on the bases, or in military news papers. big companies will advertise across the nation. They just started doing this about 5 or 6 years ago, because military pers often under estamate their experience and skills , thinking well not much call for a grunt....but they have so much more to offer, leadership courses for instance are through out your carear, safety course including Nuclear safety, tech courses such as computer, advanced eletronics etc etc....all can help on a resume....there is alot more to the military than just living in a mud hole and killing shit.....

I don't think you'll find a link, but it does happen when they have issues with finding their quota's, that is the very problem with a quota system. there is lots of presure from the government to improve upon their numbers. And when the training system can only handle a select number of recruits someone has to be sliced of the end numbers. Military goes to great lengths to ensure these selected groups are harvested and trained and placed into DND ranks, lowering of standards is just one method, turning a blind eye to some standards, to ensure a sucessful graduation is another also.... Human rights and other rights groups have made it next to impossiable to ensure that DND can't look for a particular fit....getting into the forces must be avail to every citizen within reason.... what that means is if a 350 lb women comes into the recruiting office she must be afforded every oportunity to make the min standard.....they have a phyiscal training camp to assist those not in shape by that i mean those indivs that need alot of help...insiders call it fat camp...here recruits are taken out of the normal training scedule and have up to a year to make min standards, where they can then be slotted into the normal recruit training. So this soldier is getting paid by DND for more than one year, only to find out DND is not her thing....thats one postion that can not be filled until she is released....It happens alot more than you think... Recruit training is not that hard to pass, recruit standards are incredibly low....which produces another problem, standards in the units are much different than recruit standards, not as flexiable....As an inf you need to be at a high level of fitiness or lives are indangered...these indiv that had a tough time in recruit training now don't stand a chance....

Not just Private security contractors, but every company that is looking for members that have excellent work ethic, leadership, drive to get the job done regardless of circumstance, understands the importance of the Chain of command, and alot more that the military puts in time and money to ensure it's members fit into a military structure .... civilian companies look for these qualities but don't want to pay for themselfs. There are many companies that militaries around the world use in different cases, LNC here in Canada is a massive logistical company that hires alot of ex military for jobs around the world, along with some of the larger US companies that pay 5 to 10 times a soldiers wage for doing the same thing and in some cases working beside the military....The oil patch is another massive draw to the western army and airforce....

It's not just the military but everyone is struggling to meet these lofty goals... I think our forces should reflect the diversity of our nation.... just not at the cost of quality recruits ....but one also has to look at these minorities , not all of them are interested in serving in any military, or police industry, alot of them are fleeing thier homelands due to their own military or police.... NO, again, it comes down to quality. My drill instructor said it best, i don't care if your purple with warts on your D***, in the Army we all bleed the same color ...each soldier needs to know that the guy on the left and right can be counted on, to do his job, both phyiscaly and mentally..... NO, although it is part of the whole package,you still need smarts, coordination, etc etc , but our military has a job for most people, it is the life style that drives alot of people out....it's not for everyone.... Put more funding into it....why join the military to fly 30 year old planes, ships, or army vehs....when civilian companies offer so much more.... you hit the nail on the head, Canadian citizens don't wnat a rough and ready military, they want a nice looking kid to hand out teddy bears, it is a way they (politicians) can score pionts with citizens, look we have a diverse force.....regardless of the cost....that cost is standards....both phyiscal, and mental standards.....Our Military has done the studies, but they do not make up the rules.... No problem with recruitment, infact there is to many people in the forces now, for it's current budget....lots of recruits just waiting in the wings....doubling our pay is not the problem, infact we make good pay.....nobody is complaining about pay, except the the government, over 60 % of the OEM funding for DND is for PAY, what we need is equipment....the best money has to buy.... That experience and skill is fading fast....and is being soaked up by companies that value that...CF is a sinking ship and the only cure is funding, and nobody has that type of funding to get it back on her feet. we had 10 plus years of conflict and we did nearly nothing to restore our military...

Well if it was not true, why has the SC kept the security cert. there must be some evidence of something.

Current system sucks, there is enough evidence that he is a terrorist, and was planning to do bad things here, and yet we can't send him home....so why is he not behind bars why has he not been charged ...kind of a free ride, on our dime....his picture in the paper see's him getting into a nice SUV, dressed in a nice suit, where is he getting the cash....Ship his ass home and let justice be served....

Dispite all the other evidence that has come out from both sides, your saying that the Kosovo war was phoney.....Are you impling Clinton needed to scratch an ich and drop some bombs to make him presidential. because that is what i get from your post .....I've got to ask are you serbian?, where you there? or are you have you read some book or paper about it....I don't care what Eric Margolis says or claims....Mass grave sites were found and documented by the Candian military, RCMP, and forensic personal from Canada....Infact grave sites were found by other nations as well, all equiped with serveral agencies as ours.... How do i know, well sir i was there as part of the security team....that spent weeks at serveral sites while the experts uncovered your so call phoney war....I will say not every site contained kosovians some were serbs killed by the KLA, but there was mass graves the largest the Canadian contigent found contained 30 plus bodies.... I'm sure you can find those reports on goggle some where.... But the bombings had to do with more than just mass graves, it was designed to stop that conflict of ethic cleansing ...infact just before the bombings started the serbs were involved in a massive offensive to clean out the KLA, and to continue thier cleansing program.....NATO did not want to get into a ground campaign, as the first troops in were already deployed from Bosina.....it was there that the serbs perfected their cleansing practices....they knew exactly how to hide the carnage....to say it did not happen is to dishonor those men, women , children that died in that brutal period. http://www.gendercide.org/case_kosovo.html http://www.nato.int/kosovo/history.htm

And what if Nigeria asked for assistance. Nobody ever said anything about an occupation, our military forces and other western nations are there to provide assistance at the Nigerian government request... Sticking our heads in the sand is going to accomplish what exactly....you think this guy in nigeria won't attack Canadians, given the chance he'll be cutting heads off just like the rest of those scumbags. Well thats what happens when you stand behind big brother,and depend on him for everything..... when we can stand alone as a nation and defend our own then you can start throwing rocks at big brother...but i don't see that in the future... Don't kid yourself, being Canadian or waving the canadian flag on your back pack will not save you, that boat has left the docks years ago. when they say they have an axe to grind with the west that includes Canada.