Army Guy

And hear I thought you were Canada's favorite Cracker/ tree hugger.

Liberals have announced that it will go with EADS-CASA C295M to replace the long serving Buffalo Aircraft serving the west coast and the older C130H aircraft serving the east coast.....Good on the liberals for closing a file that has been open for more than 14 years, the same file that both the liberals and cons have kicked around for far to long.....and yet another example of how Canada can not purchase anything in short order....even when lives were on the line..... But why the C295M, is it truly the best aircraft for the job.... perhaps not, I've been told that it is the cheapest....but then again is the cheapest what we really want.....The C295M is the slowest of all the aircraft tested, it offers a smaller narrower cargo space....it's floor is not reinforced to haul heavy loads or vehicles, but it is cheaper to maintain.....The contract also covers all maintance on the aircraft for 25 years....with an option of 15 more years if needed.... The C-27J is faster, it is much wider, it's floors are reinforced to handle vehicles, or heavy cargo, it is also compatible with the C-130J, which include engines, and a vast array of other parts...so there is a savings when it comes down to parts and logistical costs.....It was the militaries favorite going into the competition because it could be used in other areas of the forces as well, such as an Airborne platform, hauling cargo into the north with skies , because it had a shorter take off and landing than the C295M.....Yes it is true the company that makes the C-27J said they would not support EX US C-27J if we purchased them....in the interests of protecting their company and products.....which may of caused some discourse among some Canadians....but then again some times we need to just get over ourselves and purchase the best machine for the job or jobs..... Another tid bit Lockmart aslo decided to offer Canada a specialized verision of the C-130J SAR, with a shorter airframe....but decided to drop that offer when Canada, or should I say the liberal party decided it would rule out the F-35 from it's fighter jet ...competition...imagine that.... It has been mentioned that sometimes the government needs to save the military from itself....at first I was not sure what the poster meant by that, as I was asking the question why is it that the government always picks the exact opposite of what the military expresses would be the best option.....Like some how, some where in the liberal cabinet there is a subject matter expert on military matters, that knows more about what our country needs than the men and women serving this great nation.....and this is the only dept that we do this with.....do this same people get involved with choosing the next RCMP squad car, or Helos....do they pick out Coast Guard ships.....That is not the role of the government, their role is to mange the file, and funding.... So while DND might need to be saved from itself , lets look at some of the choices our government has made for our Military.....lets start with the LSVW, built by western star in BC, now defunct, this vehicle had failed all of it's testing done in Canada, and was taken to the desert in the US in order to pass the basic tests...because we have so much desert here in Canada..... G-wagon, to replace the litis jeep in Afghanistan.....weeks after it's delivery an IED totally destroys a G wagon killing 2 soldiers wounding another plus taking the life of a diplomat, later it is found to be to top heavy, and prone to rolling over, which takes more lives of soldiers due to role overs.... Sea king replacement.....nice job on this one.....Britain continues to fly it's fleet of EH-101 for more than a dacade now....and we have completed delivery of how many operational aircraft ..... LAV III replacement project...intended to replace our worn out lavs out of Afghanistan plus replace the missing vehs requires at units.that were never ordered.....later the project is deemed to expensive then turns into an over haul of a large part of the lav fleet not the entire fleet....then with some saving s they purchase the TPAV intended to replace Coyote recce vehs.... The list goes on forever....the point is Our government has a long history of buying crap for our military, when they lack the experience or know how to do so......kind of like sending your wife out to buy your power tools.....yes sometimes she surprises you with wonderful things like C-130J and C-17....go thing there was no other example on the market.....but most of the time she brings home cheap shit....that does not do the job very well.....only these tools and machinery they are buying lives depend on that.....but lives don't matter....and think of this for a moment if our soldiers lives do not matter just what do you think yours is worth.....

You have a funny way of trying to make people see your issue, because it is to clouded with anger in all your posts....not addressed at the federal government but rather the English people here on this forum as if they had something to do with the current state of your culture......I get it your emotional tied to this topic.....but the rest of us are not, so much.....it is not that we don't care, it is just not in our top 10 things to care about....something you fail to understand.....as I am sure the price of lobster does not have a direct influence in your life...your taking out your frustrations at the readers here, not debating they should be directed at the federal government .,....who is a Frenchmen, with shin in the game.....why is he not making this a priority in his government ? The north of NB is the "North shore" and it is here that unless your familiar with the dialect and both languages, English , French, and Maritimer you will struggle.....so much so that even Quebecois have given up on them......see they don't fly the Quebec flag , they fly the Acadian flag.....those that I've talked to do not consider them self Quebecois.....but rather Acadian two separate cultures....in southern NB you'll find more traditional French, areas around places such as Moncton etc....not many Acadians here....It is in these areas that French schools are having issues with filling their schools with French students.....because only 25 % of the population of new students are fluent in French...The problem is not enough schools but rather finding the people to speak French....it is the culture in that part of the province , filled with small fishing industries or forestry, and farming....Not a lot of money in those industries....those that do receive higher education go on to work in other areas of the country, some in Quebec most in English Canada.....and yet they are provided with both languages and given free choice to decide.... I don't have a double standard, when I was 16 my father , who was in the military, serving in ST Hubert, at the time....I did not speak any French at the time....and to find work moved back to NB with my mother. Was I bitter NO, if one wanted to find work in Quebec one needed to speak French, that was the only solution.........I'd also like to remind you French is a minority here in New Brunswick, less than 30 % of the citizens that live here are French.....but once again you forget that.....and yet for a have not province it maintains both schools systems ....but at a cost...have you've driven on NB roads lately....we don't get big federal government contracts, nor do we have the tax base to make a real difference....and while you said it is not that expensive to do both.....I think Quebec and PEI, NB would differ with you.....here in NB both French and English schools are closing , at the rate of 15 -20 per year in order to save funding.....but enough about PEI....I find it funny that a self proclaimed Quebecois is complaining about the rest of Canada, when the only province that is bilingual is NB....New Brunswick is leading the way for both the English and French.....and not Quebec....who has declared it self unilingual..... Now if you step back for just a moment and take a look at Quebec, do you really think that French is not in danger of becoming a lost language....even English is in decline these days, take a look at western BC, where Chinese is a better language to learn than French or English....same can be said in a lot of major cities, where our grand melting pot is not so melted....and many different ethic groups still hold on to their cultures...... Our nation is evolving and what it will look like in 20 or 30 years is anyone's guess...but it will not look like anything we see today.....you either embrace change or get left behind.... NFLD stole Labrador, your funny .....man you guys don't give up......Labrador was transferred to NFLD in 1809, long time to keep a grudge.....since then Quebec's borders have changed even more.....since that date time to give it up..... I guess we have different stories.....here is the short story....in NFLD wanted to sell it's power to the outside world ...But it needed to cross Quebec first.......Quebec said NO, you'll have to sell your power to us... ....it had nothing to do with risks.....it was a project funded by NFLD and the federal government, only at the time , they did not have the funding/ tech available to bypass Quebec.....in other words, Quebec took advantage of NFLD state a poor province at the time....and forced it to sell for peanuts....what the hell it's just a bunch of English guys right..... It should be noted the second project will see under sea cable being run from Labrador to NFLD....then to NS.....Quebec will be by passed.....how's that for making friends , and promoting French culture..... Hey you want to call it poutin , call it poutin, but the rest of the world, including the UN, see's it as a province within Canada's borders....one has to win a referendum first before you get the title of nation or state.....as for the people of Quebec I think they are happy being Canadian.....they had a chance to separate and what happened....How is the Blocs power base any ways still as strong.....How much has all this talk of separation cost the country in dollars I wonder....and if you do separate I wonder what the borders will look like....id Quebec ready for a whole new look.....I briefly remember the last demands Quebec made before it said it would separate.....1/2 of everything, but none of the debt.... and do you really think the Rest of Canada will stand for no access to the Maritimes, there needs to be a land bridge.....wonder how much money will be spent sorting all that crap...not to mention the mass of people moving....major corporations moving....what will Quebec gain and what will it lose....my bet is everyone is going to come out big losers.....for what so you can call Quebec a nation.....there will consequences for all of us.....perhaps even blood spilt.....to solve them.....until then we are all Canadians, some happier than others....

There may be change coming, but as your article suggests that by 2027, electric vehs will only represent a 25 % of the market share....that means that 75 % of all vehs on the road will still be run by ICE......Not enough to drive the market in any direction.....German is making a claim that it will not be able to keep.....Besides do you really think that all the fossil fuel companies are going to just role over and die.....they are not going to try to protect their trillions of dollars of annual income......Shit by 2030 we will still be using coal....let alone fossil fuels.....

You got anger issues, over something that you and I or for that matter anyone else on this board does not have the ability to fix......your preaching to the wrong crowd....but to you anyone that is English is the right crowd....when all your doing is setting everyone on the defensive......all of us here are concerned about what is happening in our own worlds....not 1000 kms away...... My impression is your angry.....and your expressing this angry at a crowd who, can not do anything about it...... French is dying.....here in NB they are having issues filling French only schools, because the French are no longer fluent in French.....and the numbers decline every year.....and it is not a Quebecois thing.....I mean really almost all the French from Quebec I've talked to don't even consider the Acadians French..... most of the time it is to enlarge French speaking numbers....but really Acadians don't speak French it is half French, half English, and half Maritimer....they don't fly the flue de lie.....they fly the Acadian flag or flag from France.... WOW, once again with PEI, the smallest province in the nation, also one of the poorest.....where tax dollars only go so far, as they do not have the tax dollars Quebec has nor the population......SO while now in 2009 they have opened a French school, another WOW......to preserve the French language in a province that is 95% English.....now I bring this up because French is not the primary language nor is it the secondary language.....if you want a job in PEI you have to speak English.....not French, Chinese, Japanese ....but English.....just like in Quebec one has to speak French, or you don't work......If the Acadians wanted to preserve their French....they can home school their children, or move.....but at the end of the day, if they want to work in PEI, they learn English.........end of story.....now in PEI there is not much for work, one plants potatoes, fishes, or works at the fries factory....Not many NASA scientist come from PEI......or for that matter the entire maritimes.....SO while you feel slighted that it has taken 2 centuries to get a French school....it has come at a cost of something else......kind of hallow victory.....Maybe if Quebec is so concerned about it's culture declining you guys can help out in provinces like PEI....with some funding....I mean shit how much has Quebec stolen from New found land in electricity over the last 20 years..... Welcome to reality, just when everyone thinks they know the rules they change them.....not just for the French.....but for everyone......feel slighted by the government get in line because it is a long one....still have not even begun to fix the native issue yet, so it could be a while.... ....want Mr trudeau to say sorry Quebec on TV......buck up....rub some dirt on it like the rest of us do.....and get on with it.... Quebec is a province.....that likes to think it is a nation.....your big dreamers, like everyone else in Canada.....separation is not just a French thing, the west has been looking at it for decades as well, they're tired of hauling our all asses around for all this time.....But for today Quebec is a province within Canada.....and while your at home call it what ever you like....but when we step out into reality it is a province.....one of many that makes up our great nation called Canada...... That's what I think that you do not want to discuss it, but rather fight over it.....because no one here can do anything about it....we all have something we don't like about our government.....Canada is far from perfect.....but I can tell you this.....there are plenty of worse places to be.....

Not sure where all this anger comes from, Benz you seem to think ALL English people are against you and the French culture....it is simply not true....maybe you , and Quebec should take a page from NB history....you know Canada's only Bilingual province.....where the French school districts have been up and running for decades....Here in NB the whole education school system is under attack, and it is the first place they look to make cuts....both French and English schools have suffered losses... But we , in NB are not whining and complaining that the world is out to destroy us....New Brunswick is leading by example , hoping that someone will follow instead Quebec declares itself unilingual and blaming their lost culture and language on the English pig dogs .....how is that working out for you....making any progress, gaining any sympathy in English Canada Sorry to break it to you but we live in a nation Called Canada....not Quebec or anything else, Canada....and we are all Canadians....regardless of what people want to call themselves in Quebec...... Now had the French been successful on the plains of Abraham, things might be different ...So now you have to play the cards you've been dealt.....

Here's something to think about, if and when the next conflict comes about and Canada decides to send our children, what is going to scare them more.....getting into a 40 year plane, with 40 year old munitions.....and hardware...or because it has of history of killing shit...... For some reason once the conversation turns to our nations military, Canadian citizens get all red in the face, and spittle begins to form on their mouths, they begin to twitch and jerk "YOU CAN"T SPEND MONEY ON THAT SHIT"...... ...they forget....these machines they are to cheap to spend tax dollars on are manned by Canadians....who love this country as much as they do....and who are willing to step the Frig up and do something about it and serve.....Only in this nation they have to do that with no Support or funding from the masses....

3) 75% of Canadians think carbon taxes are a good thing, I'd like to see a source or cite on that, And just a question why would you want to make fossil fuels even more expensive than they already are / when our economy is so dependent on the whole fossil fuel issue....You also are making a huge assumption that fossil fuels will no longer be a huge part in our lives....Do you really think that these fuel companies are going to die that easy, the same companies that have kept green alternatives away for so long....... 4) Lets talk about BC carbon tax.....So just so I understand....the citizens of BC pay additional taxes to their fuel bill, in most cases up to 7 cents a liter......all year they pay this tax and then they are given a check back from the BC government in a form of a rebate or tax cut....So what happen is the citizens have paid out of their own pocket gave this money to the BC government to do with what it pleases, then at the end of the year they give you a tax break or rebate....which may or may not pay out what you have put into the program....and as a side benefit because fuel prices are so high it has convince some of the BC population to drive less....So question number one is What does BC do with all this extra revenue it receives, does it invest into green technologies, does it invest into alternative fuel tech, does it give rebates back on using green tech in the building process of new homes or business.....NO....it just gives the funds back in a form of rebates....to everyone....again it may or may not equal what you have put into it.....but some how your convinced it's good for the environment....because fuel is to expensive and it makes the users rethink using fossil fuels.......very little of that Carbon tax is used to spur on the development of going greener.....all it is doing is driving fossil fuel costs up so not everyone can afford to use it....mean while what are we going to do when the cost get out of reach for most people what are we going to use for heat, to move our transportation.... 5+6) I see you and Smallc use the same material , that there is truly no really limit in the near future to how much our country spends....As long as it is spent on liberals ideas....it is OK, we are good with leaving that debt for future generations to pay off....Our national debt has always managed to have grown more than it has shrunk....even a liberal can see that, so at what point do we draw a line in the sand and say....we do not borrow any more until we have paid off some of the debt.....is it a trillion.....2 trillion, what is the magic number....how much of our tax dollars must we spend just servicing debt......I know it is to far in the future for you to think about.....so screw it jack it up.....spend like mad men....because some how it is good for the economy....bad for the tax payer.... 7) yes our current finance minister has a masters, are you saying he is the first to have one, that he is the only man in Canada that has a clue in what is best for our nation ?.....or because he has a masters that he can do no wrong ?.....Was not the harper government also looked at the same way by other world nations ?....I wonder did their finance minister have a masters degree ?.....so what makes the liberals right and the cons wrong.....to completely different styles and directions.....who is right and who is wrong....

So your saying is we need change , change can be good, always more than one way to skin a cat.... Well if what you say is true, Our economy should be booming.....after all Canadians are holding on to record levels of debt.....and they got there by taking out a simple bank loan, to create your synthetic money.....But those in charge of financial matters are sending us warnings ALL Canadians need to lower their levels of debt....pay those loans off, and not take more out....and while immigration does increase growth, it is not the prime mover of growth......and population growth can be done in many forms , internally, or externally..... The economy is stagnant now, and Canadians have record levels of debt.....the fact that the nations has a huge infra structure debt also at record levels.....this has been going on for years....Immigration is also at record numbers for Canada......and we want to bring in more because history has shown that large numbers of immigrants improve these conditions....like some magic pill.....and this is what I don't get.....we tried that, bringing in over 300,000 immigrants and refugees, last year.....has the economy improved....if not why would we want to continue banging our heads again'st the wall...how more do we bring in to make a difference.....and if Immigrants are the answer.....why not rent a bunch of boats head to some of these 3 rd world countries and load them up.....bring in millions........that would get things going would it not...all of this has been going on for more years than I can remember.....and you guys are acting like we found more dead sea scrolls.....touting it as the answer.....we can spend our way out of trouble....Canadians tried that and now it's time to pay the banker.....

Unless your a white person, then your labeled a racist.

So with all this conflict in world Why has Canada chosen the Syrian people to help, why not another nation such as Columbia, Mexico, or from some African state....You say some have taken advantage of this situation and moved , all those people arriving by those boats have paid thousands of dollars, just to get to the coast, thousands more to get on those so called boats.....and then thousands of more just to live and travel within Europe...Those that can not help themselves are in the camps, the ones we were suppose to get our refugees from....But that's not where we concentrated all our numbers from....And your right the needy do slip through the cracks, like the millions of other conflict affected people around the world....people like those in Sudan who can not afford thousands of dollars to flee....The forgotten people.... I Canadian dollar might get you a coke and a smile....in Syria.... That is a pretty big gamble on Trudeau's side of the house to put numbers in front of security, quality...just one problem, and it heard around the world in the media....and yet if we where taking people from the Camps , they are already in a safe environment, why the need or rush to get them over to Canada, could it have been political damn right it was political.....So Justin could stand up and make a political point in front of the world.....Had nothing to do with Syrian refugees, they were just the tools used to make that point....So there were no heart strings attached to this decision....sure it was sold to you that way....but to the Liberals it was an opportunity...and like any Political party they jumped all over it...

My point is that not all Syrian refugees are as hard off as you think they are.....when hundreds in Europe are complaining about the food, intra net quality, and accommodations....with some returning or threating to return back to Syria..... Yes there is a lot of conflicts, Can you name 5 of them.....honestly.....and yet we as a nation stand up for a nation we truly know nothing about , let alone it's people or they're wants and needs....or if their culture will clash with western cultures.....Has our refuges been handled properly, have we corrected everything that went wrong....how are our refugees doing today.....how are they being treated.....

I wonder if you would have the same opinion if you seen these adults in action, cutting off little girls hands for going to school, killing their fathers for letting them, and raping their mother as if the first two life lessons were not enough....or how about taking the time to skin an old man then stake him to the ground so he could cook in the hot morning sun, his crime was to talk to NATO troops who stopped him for directions.........the examples are endless.....you begin to map their acts, their compassion for their cause and their total disrespect for the lives of others.....They are ruthless, they do acts, do not make sense, except to cause pain to their enemies in fact you begin to see them as they are animals....rabid animals that need to be put down.....that's when dislike turns to hate.....Not for an entire race, but for that small group that we classify as terrorists.....Because they do not want to talk to you, they HATE you and EVERYTHING YOU stand for...... there is no changing their mind.....they have already made that promise to die for their cause if asked.....they are fanatical....Now you may be de program them over a long period of time....but not in a few discussions.....ask the Capt you took an axe to the head, by a teenager.....that was what he was doing at the time....talking....and for it he has paid a very steep price.....

I should at least get a good punch in the mouth....and after getting up be ready for another....

You can join the armed forces reserve force at age 16, you can not legally go on combat operations until age 18, that is inter national law, also in the Geneva convention, and Canada's federal laws. that can not be changed to be any younger. as for older the country could set any law it wanted. However remember one needs to take into consideration the time required to train soldiers.....things have changed since WWII ,

OK so let me get this straight, the Bank of Canada owns a large share of our nations debt....and the Nation or Government owns the bank of Canada are we not paying ourselves interest on money we lend ourselves.....does that sound right....sort me out please

No the only one with a problem with freedom speech is you.....Freedom of speech does have it's limits....and consequences....you should check them out..... According to your theories we should have free reign over our months say what we want when we want, I should be able to walk up to you and your wife while your out on a dinner date and say something like "hey who is the slut", nice rack........or perhaps some racist slur....I should be able to set up in a corner of a Jewish settlement in Canada, and start selling NAZI collectables, and preaching how the NAZI never brought the war to the Jewish people was false..... No there are limits to our freedom of speech and every country is different....don't like laws in France, don't go there..... nobody is forcing you to go there....simple as that....Those laws were put into place for a reason, why don't you check into why they are there instead of running off at something you seem to not understand....

The Syrian conflict is one of just 86 conflicts ongoing right now.....And yes I have been in a conflict zone and I do feel compassion for them all, and yet I also am a realist and can't help them all.....It is time for the muslim communities around the world to stand up and start taking them in....other than those countries directly effect by the crisis....Jordan, turkey, etc.....what of Saudis, or other gulf countries...how many has Iran taken in....

I thought a percentage of that debt was held by the bank of Canada, if not what debt do they have....

Should it come down to ideology and philosophy when we are talking about a necessary expenses......I think there are some expenses that should be paid before we start looking at ideology or philosophy of one party or another.....just like we must pay the power company, or the lights get turned off.....what would happen if the government just decided it was not part of their ideology to give the provinces their share of the taxes, or pay out CPP.....Talking about military infra structure....DND has been scraping together dollars for equipment purchases, infra structure was one of those areas that were slimmed down.....while improvements to PMQ's and single quarters are still being made, most PMQ's were built in 1950's.....and no matter how much lipstick you put on a duck....it is still a duck.....DND was suppose to be creating a brand new set of modern PMQ's but that project was shelved....base Infra structure continues to grow, however, there are units in Petawawa that have been waiting for new infra structure since the mid 70's.....and even then those buildings were past due for replacement.....I can remember in the 80's our section was working out of buildings that were condemned and not fit for human occupancy....those buildings are still in service today.....still condemned and still being used..... It should not be a liberal or conservative thing.....it should be a Canadian thing.....after all we are not talking about an army that has many capabilities....we are talking about the Canadian military.....and if we as Citizens can't see that, then perhaps we don't deserve the time the men and women put into our defense.....

To whom, the Bank of Canada....and what do they do with it all....

That sir is an excellent question.....

NO....that's not reality or perspective....Not all of Canada is inhabitable.....in fact vast areas are not, and to make in habitable great amounts of resources would need to be spent....shit the north stills depends on ice roads to move supplies and people around.....get out of the city....go north see why nobody lives there in great masses....Not to mention a lot of that land is used to feed us, and people around the globe.....don't carve it up because you think we can bring in more people.....were good....

Your quote could be used for almost everything the federal government provides it's citizens, Health care, CPP, Education, you get the point..... funny how magic works.....And I did not say it was a net grower to the nations economy it does however contribute, in fact a lot of cities and towns that surround major and minor Bases depend on DND for its very survival..... Ask the Major of Pembroke Ont, who tried to band members of DND from entering his town....the Base Commander paid all the 7500 soldiers in 2 dollar bills, and within 24 hours you could not find a bill higher than a 2 dollar bill within a 60 mile radius....So the military does contribute....and while tax payers dollars are used everything in the federal government spends tax payers dollars....to say it does not contribute is false..... My point was Liberals are talking about spending massive amounts of tax payers dollars, not only on infra structure, but they have already spent 30 plus bil.....and are now talking amount 186 Bil over 12 years......but just months ago when DND approached the government on spending it was told sit down, your stuff is to expensive.....things like basic trucks to move logistics,a basic need...not a want....from my side of the bench it looks like the liberals are talking out the side of their mouths, and many items that need to be fixed have now been declared a bad word.....we don't talk about it....So much for an necessary expense....How many people put off Necessary expenses....What does necessary mean to you ? It may be Mr Trump campaign promise to force all NATO members to spend 2 % of GDP on their militaries that saves our military from totally rusting out.....

Why would you want to, just to keep up with the jones.....one of the things I like about our nation is room to move about.....not sharing a acre lot with 6 other people.....