Army Guy

Should it come down to ideology and philosophy when we are talking about a necessary expenses......I think there are some expenses that should be paid before we start looking at ideology or philosophy of one party or another.....just like we must pay the power company, or the lights get turned off.....what would happen if the government just decided it was not part of their ideology to give the provinces their share of the taxes, or pay out CPP.....Talking about military infra structure....DND has been scraping together dollars for equipment purchases, infra structure was one of those areas that were slimmed down.....while improvements to PMQ's and single quarters are still being made, most PMQ's were built in 1950's.....and no matter how much lipstick you put on a duck....it is still a duck.....DND was suppose to be creating a brand new set of modern PMQ's but that project was shelved....base Infra structure continues to grow, however, there are units in Petawawa that have been waiting for new infra structure since the mid 70's.....and even then those buildings were past due for replacement.....I can remember in the 80's our section was working out of buildings that were condemned and not fit for human occupancy....those buildings are still in service today.....still condemned and still being used..... It should not be a liberal or conservative thing.....it should be a Canadian thing.....after all we are not talking about an army that has many capabilities....we are talking about the Canadian military.....and if we as Citizens can't see that, then perhaps we don't deserve the time the men and women put into our defense.....

To whom, the Bank of Canada....and what do they do with it all....

That sir is an excellent question.....

NO....that's not reality or perspective....Not all of Canada is inhabitable.....in fact vast areas are not, and to make in habitable great amounts of resources would need to be spent....shit the north stills depends on ice roads to move supplies and people around.....get out of the city....go north see why nobody lives there in great masses....Not to mention a lot of that land is used to feed us, and people around the globe.....don't carve it up because you think we can bring in more people.....were good....

Your quote could be used for almost everything the federal government provides it's citizens, Health care, CPP, Education, you get the point..... funny how magic works.....And I did not say it was a net grower to the nations economy it does however contribute, in fact a lot of cities and towns that surround major and minor Bases depend on DND for its very survival..... Ask the Major of Pembroke Ont, who tried to band members of DND from entering his town....the Base Commander paid all the 7500 soldiers in 2 dollar bills, and within 24 hours you could not find a bill higher than a 2 dollar bill within a 60 mile radius....So the military does contribute....and while tax payers dollars are used everything in the federal government spends tax payers dollars....to say it does not contribute is false..... My point was Liberals are talking about spending massive amounts of tax payers dollars, not only on infra structure, but they have already spent 30 plus bil.....and are now talking amount 186 Bil over 12 years......but just months ago when DND approached the government on spending it was told sit down, your stuff is to expensive.....things like basic trucks to move logistics,a basic need...not a want....from my side of the bench it looks like the liberals are talking out the side of their mouths, and many items that need to be fixed have now been declared a bad word.....we don't talk about it....So much for an necessary expense....How many people put off Necessary expenses....What does necessary mean to you ? It may be Mr Trump campaign promise to force all NATO members to spend 2 % of GDP on their militaries that saves our military from totally rusting out.....

Why would you want to, just to keep up with the jones.....one of the things I like about our nation is room to move about.....not sharing a acre lot with 6 other people.....

No, the military does not effect the economy at all....and yet it use to employ a large chunk of our civil service employees, it drove our military industry that employs thousands of employees......it holds most of the federal infra structure which needs repair....which translates into work...one of the main reasons to build ships in Canada is jobs.....so your statement is full of shit..... You talk about spending 186 bil plus the 30 plus bil like it was nothing.....and yet when it comes to our military your tune changes, like it was a dirty word.....well it is a dirty word when it comes to the liberals.....

That's your problem Smallc you make a lot of comments.....but you can not explain them.....Just last month when we were talking about Military budgets you are quoted as saying there is NO funding , we could not afford it.....NO additional funding for that shit....and yet now your saying run it up, spend what ever we need because that is what the liberals plan .....IF that was the case why have we not invested in our military......or anything else we have huge deficits in...like infra structure....health care ,CPP, education.....

So why do we have a huge Infra structure debt, Military debt, Health Care debt, concerns about CPP....Why do we have any concerns about anything...just keep piling on the debt....it will become insignificant......or is only insignificant when it comes to liberal projects......the rest well we've been told by previous governments liberal and cons.....we could not afford it.....SO what is it.....because the rest of us are confused.....

How do you explain this comment....Because we have always done it......well lets just keep jumping off that bridge despite of the many other options available......would Japan cease to exist without immigration..... We have followed your way of doing things for a long time now has it worked.....how much debt do we have,and how much more are we planning to add..... and yet we are going to add hundreds of bils more in order to spend our way out of debt.....which has done what exactly so far.... All this coming from the Liberals that say.....we can not spend more on the military, because we can not afford it.....186 bil put away for infra structure alone....not to mention the 30 plus already spent to boost the economy.....with talk of spending more.....because we all spend our way out of debt.....it works all the time.....

Why does it have to be in a poll...is that the final level of what we except now....Are you saying that ALL muslims except Homosexuality.....because the media is full of these events happening in most muslim countries.....would Gay men be safe in countries such as Iran, Iraq, Saudi Arabia, Pakistan, or perhaps even some of the western friendly countries like Jordan, Egypt....would Gays be safe down town safe enough to show Affection for each other.. Any poll cover that question.....I've been to a lot of these countries, and trust me they have freaked out for a lot less.....Burning a Quran, was responsible for over 200 deaths .....several were burned by one American soldier.....a women was beaten to death over the acusation of damaging a quran......weeks later they proved she was innocent.....but the crowd killed her over something some said....Lets not talk about other things such as a women accusing her husband of cheating.....she is marched out in a soccer stadium and shot in the back of the head.....how many women are killed by families because they were raped by a stranger.....Can women even leave the house without a male escort.......any polls covering that stuff.....I bet I can find a u tube video about one or all the above....watch for your own eyes as these peaceful Muslims snuff out lives ....standing around and cheering during the killing.....DO we dismiss this evidence...because there are no polls.... The Quran commands a lot of things.....and it can be interrupted in lots of ways......ask your brother in law if there are any quotes in the Quran that dictate for a life to be taken.....and does he believe in these passages or does he place them aside because of the laws in NA....

http://www.tradingeconomics.com/japan/gdp-growth And yet according to this site, Japan is doing better than Canada when it comes to growth, and yet they have a restrictive immigration policy......how do you explain that....

So what your saying is Japan has never been an example to follow....or that they have no economic growth...But they do have a restrictive immigration policy......along with many other countries that follow the same policies........MY question is this how do they continue their economic growth dispite claims here that say......to have any growth one must have a robust immigration policy.....no immigration no growth.....That is what you guys a saying.....and i'm saying that is not true in all cases.....

One other question why is Micheals source quoted as saying net debt as percentage of GDP at 64 % what does that mean exactly.

A lot of numbers being thrown around which is adding to the confusion..... What we are saying is that Canadians are on the hook for 60.8 Bil dollars each year to service debt......and we brush that off as not being a whole lot of money because it represents only 8.1 % of out total income.....What has me concerned is this attitude in the last 8 years we have added 175 bil to our national debt, and according to Michaels source represents a 54.6 % increase in national debt.....The liberals have already said they are will to add another 186 bil just for infra structure over the next 12 years. that does not take into account anything else.....ARE you asking us to relax everything is going to be OK the debt is really nothing to worry about..... When would be a good time to get concerned ....when they jack up interest rates, or when they jack up me taxes....

How do other nations mange economic growth such Japan, who happens to have a very restrictive immigration policies, how does one of the largest world economies mange it all without bringing in large numbers of immigrants.....or are you suggesting that there are no exceptions to the rules.....

How can it be falling if our government continues to run negative bals....

Just a question.....How much does it cost Canadian tax payers yearly to service this debt? just to stay neutral.....

WOW....That's a pretty tall statement, and while I do agree with most conservative ideas.....I do not support this one.....It is old school thinking that plagues our Canadian society....I can name you hundreds of women who I served with in the military that have gone above and beyond the call of duty, who have risked their lives and more just so they could be considered equals to men that worked with them.....I've seen a female medic rush into a hail of small arms fire to treat a downed Canadian soldier, with out thinking she just lept into action......doing what, we trained infantry soldiers were taught to do....but that day froze up for a few seconds to long....And not just this one girl....I meet hundreds of military women that I would go to war with any day....women that I served shoulder to shoulder with, women I was proud to call comrade in arms, or soldier....I have met other women that serve with in the RCMP, Coast Guard, Local fire halls, EMT's all with huge set of lady balls, that could, and do put men to ashame with their dedication and service to their jobs..... So before we paint the entire women race with one paint brush.....we should stop and think before we speak.....this is why we do not have true equal rights for both genders....this thinking it will truly never happen...This way of thinking is not just with in the Military.....but all through our nation....

You would think all this info would be on our federal web sites.....you know in advent we had a government interested in transparency....but they are not ...why is that ....is it because the numbers are too high for the average Canadian to swallow....shit even the liberals said the numbers are huge.....and a lot of Canadians are not going to like it.....what code is that for I wonder......soften the blow a bit....why not mention the number in the same article.....because they don't want you to see it....The numbers will come out sooner than later...and when they do, I wonder if You guys are going to all for immigration......or be looking for an alternative.

Yes I will agree with you Immigration built this country to what it is today....But let me ask you this, do you think the immigration process of the past was a fair and equable one , or was it slanted to mostly white men and women, from mostly Europe....less Jews, and other small unwanted groups.....Is that the process you slapping me in the face with..... I have no problem with immigration, but not in the numbers they have today....and not at the cost ..... And just because i'm one of the few people that do not agree, does not mean that immigration is the only way to keep our country viable for the future..... I have nothing again'st immigration, except i'd rather see that 27 Bil put back into Canadians hands vice newly arrived immigrants....it is after all their money is it not.....unless you think they are unworthy.....what do you have again'st Canadians....of all colors, race, creeds.....

It is not that I totally agree with jbg, but since you have brought it up, I wonder if I to will be labeled a Bigot....and while I would not use the same example you have used to imply bigoty.....I also would make the reader aware that the French did have a problem with the draft, and draft dogging......and the French from France did have a problem with their forces, moral, to the point of outright desertion, and yes they liked the color of white..... Yes the French men and women did serve with distinction, just as any other Canadian unit did....Such as the RCR's or PPCLI both sharing most if not all of the battle honors as these French units had....That being said while the English side did not have any problems in the early to mid ways through WWI getting the troops it needed to fill out their ranks....Quebec had solved this in the early days by empting our it's jails, offering pardons, if they joined the Military.....the Vandoos, and 60th had a good deal of convicts in their ranks.....and while this was also common to find convicts in English units as well, just not in the same numbers as the French units.....As the war progress however both English and French had problems finding good recruits..... The French units were part of the Canadian Corps.....and served side by side with English troops.....No more no less, and faced the same enemy in the toughest conditions of the war... You make it sound like our French Canadians did this all by themselves.....THATS NOT true.....in fact that this operations were carried out by many programs such as SOE British command, who employed thousands of Europeans, Canadians , and Americans who spoke various languages ...French being one just of them...It was not just a French Canadian operation.... You are aware of course that WWII was a world war and not just in Russia and Europe right, or did you forget the pacific, and Africa pieces of the puzzle.....The fact that most of Europe was liberated by the ANGLSPHERE, along with northern Africa and most of Europe ...And Russia spent most of it's time regaining ground it was tossed off in the early stages of WWII, that and some political concessions to the Russians allowed them to gain a foothold in eastern Europe....because all sides were exhausted and did not want a protracted war with Mother Russia fighting over the cut up of Europe.... And just how much was the ANGLOSHERE involved with keeping mother Russia supplied with war toys anyways.... I think brushing off the ANGLSPHERE influence in WWII is pompus on your part, or perhaps Vison seeker is a French Canadian and maybe a little bit of that Bigotry is poking through here..... Just a tiny bit.... This is what happens when Federal politicians do not have the balls to tell "ALL" Canadians this is our official Policy on Language....Failure to compile will result in lower federal tax dollars being returned to your province end of story.....When you have 2 separate policies it breeds discontent.....When Quebec can turn it's head on Canada's official policy it breeds content.....New Brunswick is Canada's ONLY BI lingual province.....and only 1/3 are French speaking.....or what ever it is the speak up there, 1/2 French and 1/2 maritimer.....the rest of the places you quoted make up what percentage of the Population....If we want everyone to tow the line....then there should be one law for everyone....not one for every tom ,dick and harry and one for bill, and joe , and jack, and jill..... and that did not come from my 5 year old.....but from me....

Do I really have to spell it all out.....A job open comes up at a hospital, it is at the under 16 neo natal unit counseling office.....where these young women go for advice about their condition, one candidate has worked in the neo natal unit at another hospital, another Candidate is an activist for the pro life.....which one do you think is the better pick......Activist, or the well rounded, open minded person.... At some point these activists are going to have to make decisions on bills and laws that go against their former activist roles, their decisions are going to effect ALL Canadians ......Are they qualified Yes they are .....Are they best choice NO they are not.....

So for the record Mr Harper did produce Surpluses........You know what Smallc Bravo to you sir, for admitting you are wrong, or do not know.....That makes two of us, what I am sure of is everything in accounting has a positive or negative outcome....one does no just vanish results.....that much I do know...... My question is this IS immigration the only way to promote economic growth......Was it not the liberals who's plan was to spend large sums of money to kick start the economy.....why not spend those 27 bil dollars used to fund immigration every year....and spend it on Canadians to increase population growth, improve things for younger families, maybe start an free education system with it etc etc.....Nobody wants to think outside the box.....for most it is bring in the immigrants at great cost....we don't want to hear any of that rubbish about new ideas......

So Harper never produced any surplus.....all that money that goes unspent from all the depts. just goes up in flames on 31 march/.....just like it was never there..........so I've asked several times Smallc do you or do you not know where this money goes.....