Army Guy

Not sure where your getting your stats from ...but most other sites stat a much lower figure... As of 2023–2025 data, the average individual employment income in Canada is approximately $54,500 to $57,000 CAD per year. Median after-tax income for families and unattached individuals was $74,200 in 2023. Incomes vary significantly by age, with peak earnings ($80,600) typically in the 45–54 age bracket.

Yes Carney has stated some facts, here is some other facts Canada is in the middle of trying to get rid of tariffs of our own think it is a good idea to step onto an international stage and point out that the world is changing and the US is no longer reliable....He has done this more than once....why would anyone want to deal with a man that continually does that... HE was the one that stood up and swore to all Canadians HE could get a deal done....And yet here we are....no deal , no nothing... Canada should not be dealing with China at all, Liberals said that last time China held hostage Canadians, and put on crippling tariffs because we were following the rule of law...Get new buyers for our canola....that should have been our priority....I can tell you this you do not get a deal by slamming your partner on the inter national stage...That is poking the bear... His first and most important role is to govern Canada, and do what is in the best interest of Canada...Getting our deal down with the US our biggest trading partner is his job...NO point in fixing one industry and weaken another...That speech he gave what did it do for the nation, did it get us any closer to a deal with the US, All It did was repaired a relationship that we should have scrap long ago....Canada is his first priority....and we are naive if we think one speech is going to save the world as it is today...That's not Canada's position in this world. Your pissed because trump has made all of NATO take their membership seriously...we as a Nation have taken advantage of that fact, we have thrown out our responsibility that was laid out in these defensive agreements, and firming up our reputation as laggards.... a nation that can not be relied on for anything of real value....we should be quietly rebuilding that, now is not the time to grab the microphone and start preaching... And we have not stepped up, we are not at 2 %, a large chunk of that money will be returned as it can not be spent...we have tied our hands behind our back with the current fiscal rules we have put in place...Nobody has taken or invaded anything that's trump way of negotiating , he says a lot of things... why have we not been able to learn that lesson... Some thing we all need to learn, the US is the ,master, while we have been cashing in peace bonds , making up new social programs the US has been busy making sure it is the worlds police men...They control the bulk of NATO contribution, NORAD they pay well over 60 % and provide most of the equipment and aircraft....5 EYES Canada has been left out in the cold because we have nothing of any value to share or contribute...Australia contribute far more than Canada does....The US is basically our only trading partner....making up 67.3 percent of our trade....and China makes up only 3.6 percent....who do you think we should be appeasing China or the US... Cusma did you know Mexico has a much better deal than we do....Remember when we hung Mexico out to dry... ever wonder why we do not do more business with them....We as a nation have set Canada up for failure in the next CUSMA talks....all for our pride....Try eating pride or paying rent with pride and see where it gets us...When your dealing with an unhinged President as you call him , you play to his ego....not make fun of him on the international stage....when ever you want...Carney is playing to his base , and forgetting that he is the PM and needs to put our nations first in any comment...

It would make a good B movie....I'll wait until it comes out on CD....I think they'll all gather on the border on day one, by day two there will be nothing but abandoned wheel chairs, back packs and shitty pants strewn all over the border regions for miles...as they stampede back into the interior after the first shots are fired..........

YA it makes great sense to start dealing with China after hostages and tariffs, lets not forget the execution of Canadian drug dealers...What's trump done again....

Not sure they got that citizen, your going to have make it bigger.....and have some one using sign language in the corner and even then they are not going to understand.....now had this been about the US...they would be all over that like a fat kid on smarties...

And this is what you don't understand, Trump decides who he wants to trade with, and if he does not like who we trade with, then he can decide to leave that relationship.... Why are you defending a guy that has not kept one election promise....he has no trade deal, he has not fixed our trading relationship....all he has done has pi$$ed off the Americans....most of what he has accomplished was Conservative ideas...taking for PP...not sure how you can continually support a guy that has not really delivered on much...Thinking this deal with China is a win for Canada...is laughable...thinking his speech is world changing has done nothing for Canada...except made him a little more popular on the world stage...except he was elected to fix our problems....

I'm no better than any other Canadian, and no Canadian is above me either.... And if all our opinions where the same it would make for a boring country.... In my eyes there are very few leftist ideals that i like as well...and yet here we are discussing them on a forum , instead of waring with each other like mad men...

How so , have you ever watch CPAC, Most of their time is spent making lies up to cover their accusations, or useless banter back and forth....... .....now they would have to bring in source material that would prove it was nothing but the truth what is wrong with that....remember this applies to ALL parties..

DO you think announcing climate change is real will change how Canadian today feel about the subject...Climate change was once the main headline not only in the media but also from the people, now it barley rates as a concern at all if not at the bottom of the top 5....kind of hard to get behind climate change when 1 in 5 Canadians go to a food bank, and can not afford a home, or rent... Don't get me wrong, i believe that there is some form of climate change...I mean it was behind my decision to put solar in, put in a heat pump, get my house brought up to code for installation....spray foam my basement...and yet of those that say they believe in climate change most have not down anything to improve their climate foot print....Even the government has cut a lot of the programs that would encourage people to put in solar, replace oil furnaces, at one time there was a federal and provincial program...now there are restricted or down graded... SO yes to answer your question i would like that , who would not like the truth come out about everything for all parties in parliament... And we are talking about Politicians...it would be imposable to think this would imply to everyone..

Now this is something Canada could wrap their minds around...Who would n ot be in favor of this.... https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c7v07je1119o

The why even bother posting to this topic....this is you just trying to be a dick....if the topic means nothing move on instead of being a ******...

And then i said do you really think they are that stupid to tariff life given products and services, not sure why you had to have this pointed out to you....Capt obvious... And your starting to sound a lot like some rookie private asking question that they already knew the answer to....just talking to hear their own voice...I use to tell those privates think for a minute before you ask any questions or make statements....

Seriously ???? do you really think Americans will buy all that over priced Canadian goods....they will do what any other consumer will do, find something American made and much cheaper to buy...And what happens if Americans are no longer buying Canadian good.....you did not think this one through....Canadians will start to lose jobs, retailers, manufactures...Can you see how this well effect Canadians... the oil and gas and electricity...why would they tariff these good...why hurt themselves... According to CUSMA all that is required is to have 6 months notice before it can be torn up.... We have been hand feeding you this info for a while, not sure why you don't get it...

Trump is not stopping Canada from doing anything....like everything, trump is saying there will be consequences... Yes we have free speech, but it has limits and consequences...someone could call your wife a slu!, because everyone has free speech , does not mean there is no consequences to those words...Trump has given us a warning, and I'm sure they already had a conversation to explain the consequences in detail.... You can't ignor all those other duties as a nation the federal government has like making sure we can defend the nation, and service our sovereignty, that we can respond to emergencies, that we abide by the rule of law, and have the means to uphold those laws Our nation has come up short, we were once a middle power, today we think we are a middle power but in reality some third world nations are able to protect themself better than we do.... My point is this if you can't lead your nation and provide all of these basic principles, they expect to be told what to do...And by just pi$$ing off whom ever you want, then expect to face the consequences, and in this case it is tariffs... Sorry, but God is not going to protect us from the worlds largest economy and military power...hence why diplomacy was created....to find a way to compromise...Now as you say Carney is a man of free will and can say what ever he wants... that's not diplomacy, that's him acting like an individual. When he speaks in a public forum he is required to speak as a diplomat/ politician...not an individual... What you and others think is some great form of statementship, in my opinion was reckless, knowing what we know about trump and what he responds to or makes him angry....to add to all of that what did this speech give Canada ? other than a reprimand for trump, and his people....has it given us a trade deal with the US, are we closer to getting one, Is our deal with China which is only 3.9 % of all exports...worth the risk of tariffs from our largest trading partner worth well over 69.3 % of all our exports..... With CUSMA coming up for review, is it to our benefit to poke trump are we getting a better deal by doing so....or are we risking not having a CUSMA at all.... We are the mouse that lives next to the elephant, diplomacy is all we have to deal with trump and his crew...right now we are acting like that toy poodle , being all yaky yaky yak....not making any friends, and acting like we are something special....when we have not shown the world we are anything except dependent on the States... And if you think all of this chest thumping, is worth it, then fine, but we should be prepared for the consequences...or learn to STFU and start listening more...

That's not what you said, your being dishonest once again, read it again..... Just gloss over everything i said....US is not going to be that stupid to impose a tariff on life giving services....Why would they do that ?

You and those that commented on your post will care if the US decides to carry out their threat...You do get it will devast our economy right.... Well, at least i got out of moms basement and served the nation...every deployment I've been on guys like you were never to be seen....not on the front lines, or in the rear because guys like you never really served the nation, they just chirp those that did...Typical leftist mentality when they don't really have a intelligent response they resort to commenting on my character...

You do know how tariffs work right....If the tariffs make them to expensive for consumers, nobody is going to buy them....US costumers will find alternative products....Thats the point of tariffs....if nobody is buying them,...Canadians are not making any money on sales....no money means no rent money means no food money....even the liberals government could not subsidize everything... DO you really think trump will cut off his face despite his nose... Yes more than 80-90 % of our trade is covered under CUSMA, at the moment...but really do you think that the US can not just up and trash CUSMA after giving 6 month notice...We have already seen the impact of tariffs on just the 10 to 20 % that is not covered under CUSMA....i can not imagine the impact of 100% tariffs on everything...It would destroy our nation in a very short time...

we will all care when or if he decides to tariff at 100 %.... This is not about me, it is about what 100 % tariffs will do to this country, getting on our knees is the reality of the whole issue...

This is not Canada's first rodeo with trump and we should already know what he likes and what he does not....DO you think this speech has done anything for the nation....and if so what has it done except put us back in the sights of trump...which is now threaten too put 100 % tariffs on all Canadian goods, if we keep this Chinese deal....that's what you call courage...I call it not knowing your opponent...want to poke the bear do it on an ice flow with polar bears your going to get better results...Carney is playing with everyone's future here...being able to beat his chest is for his enjoyment, being able to deal with trump is what he is getting paid for....and he is failing... One would have to ask a couple of questions , is the Chinese deal worth 100 % tariffs.....or is standing up to trump more important than our economy....It is not like China has treated us well in the past...Canadian have such short memories... covid ring any bells.....and we still have not taken any action on those shortfalls , like producing more of our own medicine, medical supplies....lets not even talk about Chinese tariffs... and we still have not diversify our trade with them... This summer we are going to be talking about Cusma , can't wait to see those deals.... Dealing with just about anyone but China would be better

you forgot about C-17, CH147F, CH`147D, then the Russian helos, G wagon, Mercedes heavy trucks, additional C-130J, New Leopard tanks..... it seems we only take our time when the liberals are in charge...not to mention anything for Latvia, like anti systems, drones, new light wheel trucks which were purchased by the liberals to make it look good...but hardly major programs...

With 67.3 percent of our trade going south...Most Canadians will be in that line if those tariffs are put on.....if they want to pay rent and eat that is..

No...we will get on both knees....put our hair back in a bun and do what we have to do for as long as it takes, to get those 100% tariffs removed....or the US will buy us for penny's on a dollar in a year...

And what happens if he does place 100% tariffs on all Canadian goods being exported to the US....Our trade with the US is 67.3 % OF ALL OUR EXPORTS...what do we do then ?....

Your funny....what would happen to our economy if the US puts 100% tariffs on all our exports to the US....how much of our exports goes to the US again....what was 67.3 %, i have to ask, what would our economy do after losing 67.3 % of our income...it would ruin us...But we would at least have our principles right....i wonder what they taste like, because everything else would to costly... Your talking like this is day one for trump or the Federal government learning how to handle Trump....everyone knows from kindergarten to university trump does not respond well to Carny back talking....Carney has a choice thump his chest and get what ever trumps throws at the country, or he could deal with trump in a way we can get some traction on things...That is his job....not to be the tough guy...but to be the politician who real has very little cards to play... Yes step foot on a forces base.....see how long the beating lasts and how find out what a real beating looks like when the US comes to the rescue....You guys on the left bark like little lap poodles....spewing stuff that we do not even have the power to do...with no regards to consequences....Kind of like the 16 Air force guys we were going to send to Greenland...

Well i guess we will have to find a new topic to discuss....Trump just threaten Canada with 100 % tariffs on all Canadian products if the deal with China goes through...Is it going to be elbows up.....or will Carney be a yes sir ....i'm putting my money on the yes sir approach....Because Carney can't handle trump as he promised.....it was all lies... In this context do we really want cheap Chinese EV's or find another buyer for our Canola, and seafood. I mean since we are only considering the dollar value here because that is what freedom is right....the ability to buy cheap Sh!t Your augment of they make good wages....yes they do they also pay good taxes on those wages...Have you seen how much lobster/ crab fishers make in a season... Instead of arguing over which industry we should be sacrificing because of Cheap EV's, we should be talking about is China the client we want to sell our products to....we should be finding new buyers now today, and reducing our trade with China, and diversifying our markets to reduce the effect on tariffs for any one nation... As for buy Canadian....Ask US manufactures of hard liquor if the feel the pain from Canadians not buying us products, or traveling to the US...Why did all our food stores start labeling the origins of products if people are not buying Canadian....It is my personal opinion that all Canadians should be supporting the buy Canadian thing mean if we can't even do that, then stop complaining about everything....like jobs, unemployment, lack of any real industry ... https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/trump-tariff-canada-china-goods-9.7059561