Army Guy

If that happens then i would say no it does not care what PP says or does....but thats a pretty big ask...liberal majority... well sir you're the one jumping up and down defending Carney, a strange thing to do if you support NDP....which even weakens you case even more a vote for the NDP is a wasted unless the liberals run another minority government...but even then i doubt NDP is going to survive with enough seats to make up the difference...

No he is right, trump has not threaten to use military force, now he has said that in case of the panama canal, but not about Canada.. https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/5071665-trump-economic-force-canada/ panama https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/donald-trump/trump-suggests-use-military-force-acquire-panama-canal-greenland-econo-rcna186610

You need to follow the math here....nobody is saying Canada does not have the right to defend itself....he is saying in event that Canada is attacked by the US they ( Canada) if your not going to defend the nation you would surrendering it to the US, surrendering is giving up your sovereignty, you no longer control this ( Canada) country another nation controls it.... another nations flag would be flying in Ottawa...it's citizens would come under US military control... What would you defend the nation with our military? against the largest most equipped military in the free world...The best thing Canada could do is surrender, without risking the lives of our military...to throw them away on a useless endeavor is pretty selfish... US military has close to 2 million men and women under arms, we would be lucky to find 120 k of which maybe 1/3 of those would not be able to fight... and less than 5000 of those are combat troops... Canada could have a government in exile, but it would not have sovereign control over the nation...the US would have that...

Thanks capt obvious, i did say that, but he also has not come out and say he was going to staff more governmental workers, just fully fund each department...

Thats not PP policy , try again... He may be gone but his cabinet is still here , do you really want us to think Justin was smart enough to screw the nation up by himself... No he had plenty of help

Again your opinion, my opinion is he is to lazy or non imaginative to make his own policies...what is he going to do if he becomes PM....which policies are trump like.... I'm glad he is using PP ideas there are good for the country, but soon he is going to have to make up his own...But hey the world will know they are PP policies... And yes it is all about policy....just wondering why you support a party that can't make their own policy and are the same party as the last 8 years, just with some new lipstick....the same party that has brought to where we are right now....weak enough for trump to pick an easy target...

Well i think the words describe it very well....."Everything" meaning all or most of today's government departments are underfunded,and in a lot of cases under manned, Not sure how much clearer it can be, "Broken" means it is not working very well or not at all...Did you want someone to break it down to every department and all of their issues, thats going to take more bandwidth than this forum has...

That may be true Rumors have it F-35 may be deemed to have more funding cut from the program....and while there is a chance that the F-47 may eventually take on a ground attack role much like the F-15 E, but the US still operated F-18,F-16, A-10 in ground roles as well depending on the targets...with the F-47 operating in early ground strikes when enemy radar/ air defence is a major threat, when these radars/ air defences are taken out you'll see them switch to all aircraft with ground capable mission sets...hit the rest of the targets... Anything is possible, but with over 1000 examples already produced and in a lot of cases by countries that only are flying one type of aircraft they will be around for awhile...but no one knows for sure, and i don't have crystal balls to see into the future...

Which is why Carney has stolen most of it....i mean come on just be honest....Liberals were slamming carbon capture tech as a voodoo science today it is in Carney platform...building arctic defenses a PP idea, pipelines, and energy corridor a PP idea... there is a lot more , don't get me wrong all great ideas, but whatever carney has come up with by himself is not all that important...all of this will become more evident during the campaign.... This is just Justins liberals with new lipstick.... we have already had 8 plus years to make an impression on Canadians and they failed...

Trump will not be in office when we receive our first F-35 aircraft...trump is a just a blip in history I don't understand how it does either however if you look at our history , how long did it take to find a sea king replacement after chretien canceled it...same could be said with the F-18 , how long will it be before our first f-35 gets here, media sources say not until 2030...Justin canceled it in 2015....an entire new competition will have to be run, tested, lets remember that the typhoon and Rafale quit after our government was asking to much in the way of offsets...it would not be fair just to give the runner up the contract because they lasted the longest in the competition....when europe would be in a more Eager mood to sell us fighters, even though they would be more expensive...but it would put us in a better position to eventually buy a 6 gen aircraft some euro countries are working on right now...

Thats a matter of opinion, reality however says something different.

That is discrimination....and it is not in the labor laws or DEI policies would not exist.......you can not hire anyone based on race, color, creed, or religion, because it is discriminatory...the loophole to getting away with it is proving it... Take a look at Military hiring either for military jobs or civilian it will say right in the ad, who they are looking for , what their preferred candidate looks like, ie ethnic background preferred...or ethnic women only...now try putting in white only into the same ad, and see what happens...

Thats pretty much a drive by statement...that tells the reader nothing...other than you think it is an insult to our country... It has everything to do with policy, failure to comply with policy, or failure to comprehend policy, failure to implement policy and or incompetence at the MP level, failure to take action when necessary. policy is there to assist with running a efficient department...either we have bad policy or bad actors in the leadership roll.

It does matter alot when fighters come into close contact then it puts F-35 at a disadvantage, BVR weapons are not very effective at close range hence short range missiles.... BVR is great when you can positively identify enemy aircraft at distance and they are at war, but when pushing off Russia / Chinese aircraft out of your airspace...you need to do that wing tip to wing tip sort of speak...That's when the F-22, F-15, F-16, F-18 etc in the air dominance role....... have the advantage over F-35... Think off the F-35 as the quarterback it can spot enemy aircraft at distance even control and direct other aircraft missile launches to target...The new F-15 EX is a missle truck Americans are planning to use it with F-35 for that very reason...But its speciality is strike missions...but is also very deadly at air to air, except in a knife fight....

Avro aero.... Happens all the time , look at the EH-101 sea king replacement program, it was canceled , restarted then we purchased SAR EH-101, then purchased some Frankenstein helo off the Americans... Look at the F-35 program, canceled , then we had the boeing spat and canceled the F18 E/F, then back to the F-35 it has cost us billions in delays, and put those programs back another 10 years....first F-35 will not be flying until 2030.... All because one party did not want to choose the same equipment because it was not visual pleasing politically....

Yes, when budgets were bigger, and we actually had equipment for all our defensive agreements...that is not the case today....Having two types will put additional pressure on tight budgets...

Well it does not take a rocket scientist to figure that out, PP platform was working for him in fact at one time well over 20 points ahead , PP platform makes sense it is the direction we need to go, why not steal it...this will sort itself out during the election as things will be moving fast and furious, to fast for carney to steal everything... But you have not said anything about why is it they don't have a plan, or the Liberals can't think of one, that does not include major Carbon taxes, which are unpopular...with everyone....

Your one of the lucky ones, health care is a provincial thing, here in NB 5 people have died in waiting rooms looking to see a doctor, with average wait times well over 14 hours...all of those are red flags, the problem not enough family doctors, not enough medical staff, not enough funding... I guess that everything is ok with our military, RCMP, Coast Guard, CSIS,CBSA, Immigration, passport office, there is plenty more if you look.... Just because your world looks all fine and dandy does not mean the entire country is not in flames...

I've been up north a few times, and just surviving is a struggle let alone doing military stuff....so ya the rangers rock...Yes and carney just gave way millions more...this time to Hamas...Goddess, tampons for men are only meant for liberal men, not conservative men whom are still laughing every time the enter the bathroom... I just hope they complete these bases they are talking about, i know harpers fob is still not completed or manned...

you do know every country has equipment that they produce for their use and then equipment they sell that is export versions of that equipment or dumbed down versions....Again the air force knew about this before they picked the F-35 in three separate competitions....not to mention there are 1000 of these aircraft produced today, and not one country has complained about anything the f-35 has to offer...except when trump came along...now for some reason it is garbage but what does the air force know about flying stuff....right....

Sure let's paint them all with one brush....becasue that is what adults do

Sure there is the military is just another cash cow....for people to take advantage off. it has very little to do with what the military wants....look at the irving ship building program as an example it has gone from 20 bil to well over 100 bil...we just signed a contract for 3 ships at 22 plus billion, how many even blink an eye at that...only 12 more ships to go...thats almost more than the brits paid for their aircraft carrier... you don't remember the cold war....that was with Russia, and as for China, well there is Korea, and the cold war as well. The military has never let this nation down, at any time....they have done exactly as they have been told....you can't say that's true for the opposite side of the coin...and what has it got them...gear that's older than 40 years old...Our military is the way it is because of our government and canadian people want it that way....no more or no less.. you make it sound like the military does not suck up enough, or do enough for the nation...you don't have to be a military expert to see, things are in crisis mode for the military....and this rate it won't be long before the military is not repairable members of the military see that and are are deciding that if their own country men can't make it their priority then why should THEY make it theirs...because somehow Canadians have found a new sense of pride ...or we have been threaten with words by the US...they have been ringing the bell for over 30 years now and nobody cares then ....so yes i'm saying most Canadians don't care about our military, there is not much national pride in our nation and today's generation don't really feel that connected to the nation or our culture to serve...Military did not do that...Canadians did that...and thats not going to change anytime soon, hard to get excited about something the public has not done in over 30 years....i waited 35 years for that to happen...still not here yet....but one man threatens to take over Canada and suddenly it is game on....i really hope for our nations sake this turn out alright and the military gets something out if it...but historically it has not happened yet.... So the military knows nothing is going to get better until a majority of Canadians support the military, and not many members get excited when there is a small burst of support from the people, they seen it hundreds of times, it will go away after the election...wait and see...election promises will come and go, and 4 years from now we will still be waiting for artic bases, i mean harper artic base is only half completed rusting away never used....it is not just a liberal issue, conservatives have done the same thing... The military has not decided anything in this matter, nor will it ever, unless we go to war.......the government and many on here have gone on the bandwagon and decided to go on the warpath, it is not well thought out, nor is it good for both nations, it is a verbal augment that our heads of state are in, nothing more....all talk.... it's like divorcing your wife every time you have a disagreement....and the military is caught in the middle....and is being used as a political football....we all think things are going to be much better on the european side....must have been sooo goood for the UK as they decided to leave....we always want the grass on the other side of the fence....but it is the same grass,

The government designed it that way as with most things under governmental control , nothing makes sense, and if it does someone will quickly change it... You mean something that has happened for the last 30 years or so...So the military really has nothing to lose in this case you put forth...If the civilian population knew how the procurement system really worked it would demand change...which is long over due... Not sure of your definition of hostile, but i'm unaware of any shooting conflicts with the us in the last 150 years...Your talking about a time in history when we were or rather seen ourselves linked to the British crown....since the second world war we have been a close allied with the US. To throw all that away because of one mad man is silly considering the time he is going to be in power.... They are our allied, like it or not....one president does not define that, nor does a few tariffs......in four years we will continue to buy american hardware....because it is some of the best in the world...the fact that China has held Canadians hostages for years, put on major tariffs on multi occasions and we somehow still manage to buy almost everything from them... it seems we are very selective in using your logic.... The military has no need to read the room, it has no power or say in government, nor does it have a say it what major equipment it purchases period..., it does not enjoy the support of the people, it takes whatever scraps it can get and smiles and says thank you...and the condition of your military is in the state it is because of that...our military is not in control of itself or of anything....and even when it does all of that it still does not change how it is treated or what equipment it gets ... Taking politics out of equipment purchases would change very little for the government they control the money, military controls spending....government ensures it is all above board. right now Military sends in specs sheet for what it wants some civilian purchaser from PWSG goes out and see what meets those specs once chosen DND tests it all sends in a report which means squator very little ...government picks whatever equipment it wants...rarely do they get it right...

Thats the point , Canadians and our government don't really care OR we would not be in the crises we are right now...and yes i am very aware that our military is a political tool.. In the eyes of those tasked with protection of this country, protection that might cost them their lives, it is the only consideration....what considerations would trump the lives of Canadians.... How the army is equipped should be solely a military decision, with a few exception such as strategic equipment such as Nuclear weapons' etc...how and what equipment to be purchased like tanks, aircraft, ships should be done by the military, with politicians approving the amount of funds that can be used... How the army is equipped, how the army is used and deployed, how the army is structured are all political factors. The army does not exist on its own independent of the nation and the nation is political. Do you let your wife / Kids pick out your power tools, or your car, or your Home....No but your wife does care how much you spend How the Army is used or deployed is a political decision, the military serves our government and it's wishes... Today purchases of military equipment is not done solely by DND, there are a huge amounts of federal governmental department that have a say or add to each contract..."perhaps Flyer can expand on this" he has seen first hand all the issues with purchasing...anything....it took 10 plus years just to buy new 9 mm pistols....If the military was allotted a pot of money and told go out and buy new pistols i'm sure it could be done in a few years ...but add to the fact that each purchase is political it takes 10 years...consider an average purchase time... The only nation that could produce the results your looking for is Canada itself, every other nation has it's own agenda...and while our military is almost non existent it's military industrial complex is even smaller, making it ourselves is the only answer to your demands, that being said we only fund our military every 30 to 40 years, what company is going to wait for military orders for that long.... We still have to stick with those we are in alliance with...Russia and China are threats to our national security and have been since the close of WWII, and Korea, the US on the other hand has been our allied for hundreds of years, and most likely hundreds more after trump has faded into the sun set...canceling military contracts does not make any sense just becasue he has fill the media with empty threats...US is a trusted source as a whole.... I never said that public opinion does not make a difference, i said I don't care about political interference in military procurement.......public opinion is everything...and public opinion is why we are today, that works both ways when pointing fingers....military members are getting out in record numbers, because of this public opinion...Military members are asking themselves why should i sign up for our military and possibly lose their lives when the public could not even bother to equip them properly....our equipment is to old, the training budget is almost non existent, the military is asked to do more with less, hence my signature below... The military has always been constrained by our own government and people, that is nothing new, It was our government and people who gave the US responsibility for our defence...and bragged about it over and over again...waking up today and telling everyone we got this is not all that ensuring, now for what i'm gathering your telling us sit down we will tell you what to buy and where to buy it because we are in charge now... kind of like getting your house built by the police department...or your wife picking out your tools....hey be happy i bought the leaf blower instead of the lawn mower...now go cut the grass...