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Maybe you can ask these people for more information about horrific images. CNN, AP, Reuters, NY Times published images from 'journalists' embedded with Hamas during Oct 7 massacre | The Post Millennial | thepostmillennial.com Perhaps world opinion would shift if more video and images of Hamas doing their thing were made public. I personally do not want to see stuff like that, but that's just me. From Harrison Faulkner at True North: I was invited by the Israeli consulate in Toronto to join a small group of journalists for an exclusive screening of footage from the October 7 terrorist attack carried out by Hamas. The 45-minute film, which compiled footage from the body cameras of Hamas terrorists, footage from first responders, and security footage from the homes of slain Israeli victims was the worst thing I have ever seen. Journalists were not permitted to bring any recording devices or phones into the screening out of respect for the families of the victims but we were routinely encouraged to tell the public what we saw in as much detail as we could after the fact. In our polarized world, this will only further drive mistrust and skepticism. It is simply not enough in this era for the public to take the word of hand-picked journalists behind closed doors telling people what they saw because they aren’t permitted to see it for themselves. All Israel would have to do to end any debate surrounding ownership of the moral high ground in this conflict is release the footage for the world to see. The film begins with a group of Hamas terrorists on a road in southern Israel executing everyone who drives past them. Each execution is filmed and celebrated as the terrorists yell “Allahu Akbar!” The film then shows a group of terrorists breaking into a kibbutz and searching each home for civilians to be killed or captured. What follows is the uncensored massacre of an entire kibbutz. A father of two can then be seen on his own home security camera grabbing his two young sons and frantically searching for a way to get to their bunker in the backyard. A Hamas terrorist spots the defenceless father entering the shelter with his sons, calmly walks up to the entrance, takes a pin out of a grenade, and throws it into the shelter. The father absorbs the entire blast, sacrificing himself to save his two kids. The entire moment is captured on film. The footage continues as Hamas terrorists enter the home and take food from the fridge of the man they just violently killed while the two sons watch on. Viewers will then see an inconsolable wife who returns to the Kibbutz with IDF soldiers to see the disfigured corpse of her husband. That was just the first five minutes. Forty more minutes to go. The film begins with a group of Hamas terrorists on a road in southern Israel executing everyone who drives past them. Each execution is filmed and celebrated as the terrorists yell “Allahu Akbar!” The film then shows a group of terrorists breaking into a kibbutz and searching each home for civilians to be killed or captured. What follows is the uncensored massacre of an entire kibbutz. A father of two can then be seen on his own home security camera grabbing his two young sons and frantically searching for a way to get to their bunker in the backyard. A Hamas terrorist spots the defenceless father entering the shelter with his sons, calmly walks up to the entrance, takes a pin out of a grenade, and throws it into the shelter. The father absorbs the entire blast, sacrificing himself to save his two kids. The entire moment is captured on film. The footage continues as Hamas terrorists enter the home and take food from the fridge of the man they just violently killed while the two sons watch on. Viewers will then see an inconsolable wife who returns to the Kibbutz with IDF soldiers to see the disfigured corpse of her husband. That was just the first five minutes. Forty more minutes to go. The film begins with a group of Hamas terrorists on a road in southern Israel executing everyone who drives past them. Each execution is filmed and celebrated as the terrorists yell “Allahu Akbar!” The film then shows a group of terrorists breaking into a kibbutz and searching each home for civilians to be killed or captured. What follows is the uncensored massacre of an entire kibbutz. A father of two can then be seen on his own home security camera grabbing his two young sons and frantically searching for a way to get to their bunker in the backyard. A Hamas terrorist spots the defenceless father entering the shelter with his sons, calmly walks up to the entrance, takes a pin out of a grenade, and throws it into the shelter. The father absorbs the entire blast, sacrificing himself to save his two kids. The entire moment is captured on film. The footage continues as Hamas terrorists enter the home and take food from the fridge of the man they just violently killed while the two sons watch on. Viewers will then see an inconsolable wife who returns to the Kibbutz with IDF soldiers to see the disfigured corpse of her husband. That was just the first five minutes. Forty more minutes to go. FAULKNER: To win against Hamas, Israel must show the world what happened on October 7 | True North (tnc.news)
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Wow! Talk about rose coloured glasses!?
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There does seem to be quite a lot people and businesses that are leaving California for various reasons. High taxes, high crime, filthy streets etc. You are correct about the nation-wide problems with opioids, immigration and crime. Joe Biden certainly deserves some of the blame for these problems. I think Gavin Newsom would be a disaster as President. But he probably has a very good shot at winning in the future, largely due to his very slick/polished image. As we know, image is more important than actual policies to many voters.
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So these are the kinds of protests that are happening openly in Canada and around the Western world right now. FIRST READING: The man who led a street full of cheering Montrealers in prayer to 'kill them all' (msn.com) What kind of pathetic immigration system lets this kind of person into our country? How about all of those who cheered his words in the streets below? A man on a balcony in a Canadian downtown takes a microphone and leads a public prayer for the violent eradication of the “Zionist aggressors.” “Allah, count every one of them, and kill them all, and do not exempt even one of them,” he says in Arabic. Below him, a crowd of hundreds respond with cheers. The speaker was Montreal Imam Adil Charkaoui, and the venue was the city’s Oct. 28 “Stop the Genocide in Gaza” rally — one of dozens of Canadian events organized over the last 30 days by the Palestinian Youth Movement, a group that has openly praised the Oct. 7 massacres and called for continued violence against Israel.
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I most certainly do not want to search out images like that. I would never be able to get them out of my head as I happen to have a conscience. You almost sound like you are chomping at the bit to see horrific images like that. Would you get some kind of a thrill from seeing them? You sound very dubious about October 7 as well. I haven't been to Africa but I know its real. I don't know the inner workings of groups like Hamas but I know they are absolutely savage with their beliefs and actions.
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Some evidence may have come from the Hamas terrorists that were wearing bodycams and uploaded the footage to social media. Israel/Palestine: Videos of Hamas-Led Attacks Verified | Human Rights Watch (hrw.org) "No Going Back": Hamas' New Social Media Strategy | TIME As its fighters stormed southern Israel on Oct. 7, they live-streamed their murder of more than 1,400 people in Israel. Using their phones and GoPro cameras attached to their bodies, the Hamas members documented their slaughter of women, children, and the elderly; their kidnapping of revelers at a music festival; and a variety of barbaric acts that included burning families alive. In one video, released by the Israeli military, a Hamas fighter tries to decapitate one of the murdered with a shovel. Why did Hamas upload these images you ask? Because they were proud of what they did.
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Perhaps I'm wrong but it's just the impression I get when I see how the LGTQ people react when they are confronted with the facts about how their kind are treated in the Middle East. Again, the exception being Israel. In the video I posted above, the people being interviewed genuinely seemed to be shocked when they were made aware of the Muslim stance on their lifestyle. How insular is their world that they couldn't be aware of this?
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Whether they should or shouldn't is entirely up to them. It just seems bizarre that so many of them seem clueless about how the Islamic world feels about the LGTBQ gang and their agenda. Would they change their minds if they knew the facts? Maybe.
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I think that most of the LGTBQ etc etc group are just woefully uninformed about most things. It's like they have no clue what would happen to them in every Middle East country(except Israel) if they simply walked down any street.
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So any video of someone stuffing a ballot box is merely putting other family members ballots in? That's extremely weak. What about the incidents that were recorded in the wee hours of the morning where the person then removes and disposes of gloves, then takes a selfie? You guys just responded with the same , lame excuse.
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You have it backwards. You may possibly be the most ill-informed person to every post in this forum, and that's saying a lot. However you are entitled to your opinions, as outlandish as they may be. Nothing happens in Gaza without the knowledge and approval of the Hamas leadership. Those would be the guys living in the lap of luxury in Qatar.
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I don't see any evidence that Biden is "a good man". Plenty of evidence that he has a short fuse. Plenty of evidence over the span of his career that he entered politics to enrich himself. Plenty of evidence that he has a serious issue with tall tales(lying). What does it say about this man's character when he refused to acknowledge the "other" granddaughter for so long? I had previously believed that there was no way the DNC would allow him to run again given the obvious decline in his cognitive ability but now I'm not so sure. He most certainly is being controlled by actors behind the scenes so they may just want to keep this Weekend At Bernie President in the White House.
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In case you weren't aware, Israel left Gaza in 2005. Does the occupied Palestinian territory you refer to run from the river to the sea?
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Guess I struck a nerve when you are confronted by facts. Seems you are losing your temper just like so many of those protesters. If Hamas, Hezbollah and their kind lay down their arms, then there could be peace. They clearly have no interest in that.
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That is categorically not what the IDF is doing. You mentioned the bombing of the hospital earlier. Are you talking about about the blast in the parking lot next to the hospital? The circumstantial evidence all points to a failed Hamas rocket and not the IDF. In that particular case, most of the MSM just ran with what Hamas told them from the get-go. And I must point out once again that Hamas has or had a headquarters in a hospital. Why? Because either they are protected by the human shield patients above, or if the IDF attacks, they also win because of civilian casualties. It's well known that the IDF warns civilians to get out of harms way. Hamas gives no such warnings. And they also order their own citizens to stay put.
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Don't want to even acknowledge the human shield tactic do you?
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Even with the most sophisticated military, it's got to be virtually impossible to to avoid those human shields. Or do you deny that Hamas does in fact have a longstanding practice of using their own women and children as human shields?
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You haven't been paying the slightest attention to what's being said at many of these pro-Palestinian/Hamas protests have you? White liberals!?
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Does that figure of 12000 come from Hamas? Any reporters that are in Gaza are allowed to see only what Hamas allows them to see.
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Many of those that want Israel to stop only want it so that Hamas gets breathing space to survive and plan for the next barbaric attack. A lot of people were silent on Oct 7.
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I would wager that the casualty numbers in Gaza are mostly the result of collateral damage because of the longstanding Hamas policy of using their own women and children as human shields. This despite the best efforts of the IDF to avoid civilian casualties. That is the key difference between Hamas and Israel. Hamas wants as many dead Israelis...and Gazans, as they can get.
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Do you propose that Israel take a one for one approach to dealing with terrorist Hamas? Should the atrocity on Oct 7 be repeated by Israel on Hamas civilians? There is no moral equivalence here between what Hamas did and the response of the IDF.
