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We knew this was going to happen sooner or later but for California Tesla owners it was a big shock. Of course it will happen everywhere eventually. Tesla charging costs equal fueling of gas vehicles in California as it raises Supercharger prices and limits off-peak hours - NotebookCheck.net News

Kari Lake handling a CNN reporter:

This is another great video from True North: The testimony of longtime Ottawa councillor Mathieu Fleury is pathetic!

You don't want debate; you want an echo chamber. You chose the name SNOWFLAKE. That kind of suggests that you are rather fragile when it comes to opposing opinions. I have no problem with that, and I do welcome you to this forum regardless of where you see yourself on the political spectrum.

It's not something I'll lose any sleep over but it's disappointing that accusations like being a fascist or racist are so easily used these days. And most of those casting these baseless accusations have never experienced fascism or real racism. These words are so overused now that people are just shrugging it off, it's the new normal. In this forum, I think they (primarily leftists) do it because they can't stomach the fact that anyone can dare to disagree with them.

I personally would not call anyone a fascist simply for disagreeing with me. Diversity of opinion is a good thing, but it is under attack these days and that attack is primarily from the political left. I can sense the anger from the excessive use of capitals by some to make a point. Insults and accusations are sure to follow. I suppose some on here think I'm a fascist because of my opinions on certain subjects. It was very well put in the first post of this topic that many of us have formed opinions based on our personal experiences. The school of hard knocks vs classroom lectures. I think that most of those elites giving those long lectures have zero experience with the school of hard knocks.

Umm wait a minute...you talk about the science but at the same time you're part of the group that happens to believe that gender is fluid and that there are in fact dozens or perhaps hundreds of genders. Is that left-wing science? Didn't mean to trigger you SNOWFLAKE. I'm all for new energy sources that will be reliable and affordable. An all of the above scenario. Let's learn from the mistakes of California and Europe.

You do that.? I would also remind you that NASA scientists are not infallible. NASA’s Own Data Discredits Its Predictions of Antarctic Doom - The New American A Brief History of Fantastically Wrong Climate Change Predictions The modern environmentalist movement began in earnest in 1970, when activists founded Earth Day as a way to call attention to the ways in which man-made climate change was destroying the planet. Then, as now, those activists claimed a scientific consensus about just how devastating the impact of climate change would be, yet for 45 years now, scientists (not activists, scientists) have been consistently wrong in their doomsday predictions. Wisconsin Senator Gaylord Nelson, the father of Earth Day said before the first Earth Day in 1970 that “the secretary of the Smithsonian Institute believes that in 25 years, somewhere between 75 and 80 percent of all the species of living animals will be extinct.” Not to be outdone, Life Magazine reported that same year that “Scientists have solid experimental and theoretical evidence to support…the following predictions: In a decade, urban dwellers will have to wear gas masks to survive air pollution…by 1985 air pollution will have reduced the amount of sunlight reaching earth by one half….” Stanford biologist Paul Ehrlich, the celebrated author of The Climate Bomb, wrote in 1971 that "by the year 2000 the United Kingdom will be simply a small group of impoverished islands, inhabited by some 70 million hungry people … If I were a gambler, I would take even money that England will not exist in the year 2000.” In 1975 Newsweek ran a now-infamous article entitled “The Cooling World,” which cited several climate scientists in concluding that “the central fact is that…the earth’s climate seems to be cooling down…If the climate change is as profound as some of the pessimists fear, the resulting famines could be catastrophic.” Global famine was a popular prediction in the 70’s. North Texas State professor Pete Gunter summed up the prevailing sentiment when he wrote in “The Lving Wilderness” that by “by the year 2000...the entire world, with the exception of Western Europe, North America, and Australia, will be in famine.” In 1986, NASA scientist James Hansen testified before Congressthat “global temperatures should be nearly 2 degrees higher in 20 years, ‘which is about the warmest the earth has been in the last 100,000 years.’” Two years later, Dr. Hansen told an interviewer that in 20 years, the area below his New York City office would be completely changed, most notably that “the West Side Highway [which runs along the Hudson River] will be under water.” Even the great Carl Sagan predicted in 1990 that “the planet could face an ‘ecological and agricultural catastrophe’ by the next decade if global warming trends continue.” That same year, Dr. Michael Oppenheimer with The Environmental Defense Fund wrote: By 1995, the greenhouse effect would be desolating the heartlands of North America and Eurasia with horrific drought, causing crop failures and food riots…”(By 1996) The Platte River of Nebraska would be dry, while a continent-wide black blizzard of prairie topsoil will stop traffic on interstates, strip paint from houses and shut down computers…The Mexican police will round up illegal American migrants surging into Mexico seeking work as field hands. As recently as the last decade, both Dr. Hansen and Peter Wadhams, the head of the Polar Ocean Physics Group at the University of Cambridge, believe “that the Arctic is likely to become ice-free...as early as 2015.” That’s actually two years later than Al Gore predicted in 2007,2008, and 2009, when he cited what he called a scientific consensus to claim that the North Pole would be “ice free by 2013.” That’s good, because Pentagon scientists sure weren’t in 2003, when their report“An Abrupt Climate Change Scenario and its Implications for United States National Security” warned that within 10 years, “it was not implausible” that parts of California would be flooded, parts of the Netherlands would be uninhabitable, and an unprecedented rise in hurricanes, tsunamis, and tornadoes would spark wars across the globe as people fought for increasingly scarce resources. Not to be outdone, scientists with the United Nations Environment Programme warned in 2005 that man-made global warming would so decimate coastal areas as well as the Caribbean and Pacific islands that there would be upwards of 50 million “climate refugees by 2010.” Of course, none of these scientific predictions—from Earth Day straight through today—have ever actually been right, but more predictions keep coming...along with more admonitions that the science is settled.

Speaking of sea level rise not accelerating - Climate Discussion Nexus Sea level rise: Unprecedented, except in the past - Climate Discussion Nexus I wonder how the Obama's are making out in their new WATERFRONT mansion. I seem to recall him going on and on about climate change blah blah blah. He's clearly not worried about rising sea levels.

I don't think so. All I keep hearing about is wind and solar, with nuclear barely getting any mention. It makes no sense to move so quickly to these kinds of energy sources without having reliable backup. Think of the situation in Europe now. Energy crisis has Europe hoarding wood, cleaning chimneys, mulling dung | Fortune They caved in to the environmentalists and drastically shackled their own oil and gas industry and this is the result. So much for affordability.

I am a bit curious about what you said about the Grimsby wind farm. You say they claim 95% reliability but that seems like an evasive term. I would ask what the capacity of that particular wind farm is and what the actual average output is. What I have read about wind turbines is that the average actual output is almost never anywhere near the rated capacity. They will suck up an enormous amount of land and offshore space.

I'm in favour of nuclear energy, but 99% of the climate change zealots say no way! Nobody likes pollution but I must point out that Canada and the US are cleaner than say...China. It may make you uncomfortable when I criticize China (darling of the left) but they are the largest emitter. You ducked the question; you want us to go almost exclusively with wind and solar?

And the "much better energy production" is...wind and solar? Say it ain't so!?

I don't claim to be any kind of genius but having read enough of your posts in here, you also clearly do not fall into that category. “The burning of fossil fuels is destabilizing the very foundations of life on the planet.” (An actual quotation from a recent Canadian newspaper opinion piece.) No, actually the burning of fossil fuels has radically improved the foundations of life on this planet. It has given us safe and inexpensive lighting, heating, cooling, refrigeration, transportation, electricity generation, construction, food production, and just about everything else we depend on for our standard of living. To the extent it has also caused a slight warming of the atmosphere due to CO2, that clearly has not turned the whole thing into a net loss. Weighing the costs and benefits together there is simply no question fossil fuel use has served to benefit humanity greatly. Fossil fuel-driven economic growth over the past 30 years has pushed us to the brink of a global climate catastrophe. If the small amount of warming we have experienced were such a catastrophe, why has everything gotten so much better? Fossil fuel-driven prosperity has cut extreme poverty around the world by nearly two-thirds, allowed us to dramatically increase food production and cut hunger and malnutrition around the world, spread access to electricity to billions of people on every continent, cut child mortality in half, and added 7 years to average life expectancy. If you could have prevented the fossil fuel use at the cost of never having experienced all this progress, would you have done so?

What caused CO2 to rise to that high level over 800,000 years ago? You can't blame it on man-made emissions. Apparently the planet survived that event.

Nobody today would argue that slavery was not an evil practice. But the best course is to talk about history, warts and all. Leftists only seem to want to mention one side of history and not acknowledge the role of those that fought and died to end the practice. Not to mention the fact that slavery was not limited to blacks.

Not really a mistake so much as a group of very ill-informed people that are easily mislead. Perfect examples of how successful brainwashing can be. The mobs doing this kind of vandalism are simply too narrow minded to acknowledge that there could possibly be anyone with a different point of view. We all know leftists are extremely intolerant of diversity of opinion.

Yeah, I guess I can't really argue with that one lol.

Maybe if I copy your style, as in the excessive use of caps then you'll have to believe it.?

I believe the documents Trump took were at least secure. Not like this other past president. Obama Foundation Stored Classified Documents in Warehouse, Letter Reveals USSA News | The Tea Party's Front Page. I have said it many times in here, it's not the "what" that's important, it's "who". Justice is not always applied equally. Are you happy with the current state of the US under Biden? Did he meet your expectations or perhaps even exceed them? Just curious.

Anti-racism protesters mistakenly topple statue of US anti-slavery leader Heg, Charleston's Calhoun statue removed after 16 hours - ABC News It doesn't seem to be an illusion. Most of the "racist" statues getting pulled down seem to be Democrats. Interesting, isn't it? 13 of 15 Racist Statues Dems Want Out at Capitol Were Democrats (breitbart.com)

Let me get this straight. Antifa supposedly means anti-fascist. They regularly use violence against anyone and everyone that disagrees with them and you claim that isn't in any way a fascist tactic? Antifa activists say violence is necessary | The Hill

What rights does a white person have that a "person of colour" does not have? Second question: Why do so many millions of "people of colour" want to live in Canada if indeed we are a systemically racist country?

Well, Trump did end up leaving the White House so he did accept the results with strong reservations. If you label him a fascist for that then does that not also apply to the long list of Democrats that disputed election results? It's a pretty long list compared to Republicans. Real fascists stand by while free speech is under attack. Real fascists do not tolerate diversity of opinion. Antifa behaves like a fascist group. All of this is tolerated or outright encouraged by the new radical left.

Is the statue of Lincoln still there or has it been pulled down by woke Democrat mobs??